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Posted By klynchsf 6 months ago in News

Pastor Matthew C. Manning Pastor Matthew Manning, founder of Lighthouse World Evangelism , who claims to be "cured" of AIDS and being gay, has been arrested again for public lewd acts involving a young man at a gym.

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    scott42616 months ago

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    I have always maintained that there are no ex-gays....only those who hate themselves so much that they are willing to deny who they really are. You cannot change your sexual orientation. It is what is... the only "choice" a gay person has is to either accept it and live life as your personal nature dictates or to live in denial.

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      skyking2p6 months ago

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      You are right Scott. This "choice" myth is something used by the religions to make it easier to hate another group.

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      DaneL6 months ago

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      'You cannot change your sexual orientation. It is what is... the only "choice" a gay person has is to either accept it and live life as your personal nature dictates or to live in denial."

      Child molesters have the same problem. You just can't cure them.

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        Charlson6 months ago

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        Class act DaneL, we can always count on you to jump into the vomit pail. Or have you moved up to spittoons?

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          Jeboba6 months ago

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          Keep your 'red herrings' out of this discussion. This is NOT about child molesters. Nice try you troll!

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            DaneL6 months ago

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            Both are mental disorders.

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              Tangent0016 months ago

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              According to whom?

              Pedophilia, yes. Usually, it is comorbid with sociopathy, and other forms of emotional and social dysfunction. Their view of reality has no empathy with their victims.

              The DSM de-listed homosexuality as a mental disorder in the 80s. There was simply no concomitant emotional or social dysfunction that would qualify homosexuality medically as a disease, illness, or other disorder. The preference is recognized to be sexually <i><deviant</i> from the norm, to be sure, but that is not a pejorative judgment. Not to oversimplify, but homosexuality is no more an 'illness' than foot fetishism, or preferring women with enormous breasts (BTW, Freud had LOTS to say on that matter).

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              jakesguile6 months ago

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              I like your response better than mine

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                vor6 months ago

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                Many of the Southern Baptists churches have these gay to straight programs. There are even billboards promoting these groups. Don't they realize that about 10% of the population has been homosexual since recorded history began. It is not a choice. It would be like taking me, a left hander and tying my arm behind my back and forcing me to use my right. They used to do this in public schools in the early and mid 20th Century.

                In the end these straight to gay groups are just swordfighting clubs.

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                jakesguile6 months ago

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                Are you comparing child molesters to gays? Okay Dane, let's go through this again.

                There are Straights, GLBTQEtc, and Child Molesters. They are in a category of their own, and what they do is not okay nor is it defendable. Nor is it okay to compare them to gays OR straights because neither group is at fault for the child molesters (at the same time, neither group is blameless 100% either).

                I suggest you not ever compare gays to child molesters ever again, people might mistake you for an ass and a fool.

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                  DaneL6 months ago

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                  Or mistake you for a man.

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                    jakesguile6 months ago

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                    Whaaaa?....Oh... right, because of my penis

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                    DavidCtoo6 months ago

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                    I don't think it would be a mistake.

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                  WikiMap6 months ago

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                  i am getting Article Not Ready on the source link. Tried second time also after 1 hr.

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                    Charlson6 months ago

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                    Same with me. Any other link?

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                    Tangent0016 months ago

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                    Here's some detail:

                    "Charges in 2005

                    On September 2, 2005, a complaint was filed with the Superior Court of California, County of Sonoma, accusing Manning of one count of violating CA Penal Code 243.4(e)(1).

                    Any person who touches an intimate part of another person, if the touching is against the will of the person touched, and is for the specific purpose of sexual arousal, sexual gratification, or sexual abuse, is guilty of misdemeanor sexual battery, punishable by a fine not exceeding two thousand dollars ($2,000), or by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding six months, or by both that fine and imprisonment.

                    The complainant is listed as “John Doe” but we have since determined his identity. He was approx 22 years old at the time, and still lives in the area. We have contacted him and may provide his personal account at a later date if he allows it. He appears understandably reticent concerning such a personal matter. We should note that he identifies as straight.

                    No jury trial this time. On November 30, 2005, again represented by Jeffrey Cohen, Manning pleaded “No Contest” to a single count of violating CA Penal Code 647(a), a lesser count and the same he was charged with in 2000. He also escaped a listing on the sexual offender registry. "

                    http://www.exgaywatch.com/wp/2009/06/ex-gay-pastor...

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                      Charlson6 months ago

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                      The guy has a record that screams sexual predator. It seems he's gotten away without paying much of a penalty or punishment by playing the justice system, so far. I hope his luck runs out and the next jurors see him for what he is: a sex offender.

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                        Jeboba6 months ago

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                        Typical Evangelical hypocrite. Jesus would be appalled at the right wing evangelical church today. They violate all of his principles of love, tolerance, help thy neighbor, etc. They are all about the opposite.... hate, intolerance, judgemental, and to hell with the other guy.

                        THEY are and will continue to be the downfall of the Republican party which has filled its ranks with these nutbags.

                        BUT, I want more and more revelations about these deviants coming out. Sen. Ensign, Gov. Sanford, this guy, etc. THEY are showing the true colors of the Republican party. So please keep it up! Your party is dead and starting to stink up the place.

                        VOTE OUT ALL REPUBLICANS IN 2010

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                          klynchsf6 months ago

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                          The story gets weirder. I am working on another story about Matthew Manning that is potentially even more salacious. A mother claims she lost her two sons to Manning's "brainwashing", convincing them they were sexually abused through "repressed memory recovery". Manning has legally adopted the two men and changed their names to Zacharia and Joshua Manning. He constantly gets restraining orders against the parents to keep them away from the men. The parents say they are desperate to have their children back.

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