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    Wolfie20075 months, 4 weeks ago

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    I think it's about time that someone in Israel spoke bluntly regarding the Obama's administrations hostile manner toward our long term ally Israel. Obama's open arms stance for nations like Iran and Syria and his obvious sympathy for terrorists like Hamas and Hezbollah need to be addressed by all the US's allies.

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      fishifanb5 months, 4 weeks ago

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      I think its about time that someone in the U.S. spoke bluntly to Isreal to let them know that our long-time policy of pandering to them is over. Only through dialogue with and cooperation by all of the powers in the region can we ever hope for a lasting peace.

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        beavith15 months, 4 weeks ago

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        and what do you think that'll do?

        every day that iran becomes an even more and clearer danger to israel is a day closer to israel nuking them into a glass parking lot.

        tough talk from us to israel will just accelerate that response.

        israel is running out of options.

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          earthlingerer5 months, 4 weeks ago

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          Two people, one state. The ONLY option.

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            Thinker225 months, 4 weeks ago

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            Why not 22 peoples one state, EL? Why not ALL Arabs in one state? Makes way more sense because these people have a lot in common and will not, hopefully, try to kill each other.

            Arabs DO NOT WANT to live in one state with the Jews, EL. If you don't trust me ask the Arabs. Look how many Jews live in Gaza, in Ramallah, Nablus, Hebron, Jenin, in Lebanon, in Jordan, in Syria...

            Sorry, my friend, your "ONLY" option is NOT AN OPTION.

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          Thinker225 months, 4 weeks ago

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          > Only through dialogue with and cooperation by all of the powers in the region can we ever hope for a lasting peace.

          What exactly you expect Israel to "dialogue" with Iran or its puppets Hamas and Hezbollah who've openly called to destruction of Israel and refused to recognize the right of Israel to EXIST?

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          willottica-245 months, 4 weeks ago

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          You refer to Israel as a long-term ally. What is it that Israel has done for the US to reciprocate that alliance?

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            Edmar145 months, 4 weeks ago

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            You honestly don't know, do you? Too bad. I guess ignorance is bliss.

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              willottica-245 months, 4 weeks ago

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              No, ignorance is not bliss. That's why I asked the question. I'd like to be less ignorant. Now can you please help me with that?

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                fishifanb5 months, 4 weeks ago

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                What Isreal has done is to take billions of dollars in military aid to fight a proxy war against Arabs and Palestinians on our behalf.

                This gives us a sort of plausible deniability because it is, after all, Isreal that is committing the act(s) but the rest of the world is not fooled. They can follow the money and have rightly identified the U.S. as complicit in the actions of Isreal.

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                  Thinker225 months, 4 weeks ago

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                  > What Isreal has done is to take billions of dollars in military aid to fight a proxy war against Arabs and Palestinians on our behalf.

                  How many lies can one fit into one sentence? Let's see..

                  First, it's not Israel but ISRAEL. Second, ISRAEL did and would fight these wars without US aid as well as it had no choice but to defend itself every time the Arabs attacked it. Third, the wars ISRAEL fought were on ISRAEL's own behalf, NOT on anyone else's. It was their own country ISRAEL Israelis were fighting for, their homes, their land and their lives. Fourth, Palestinians ARE Arabs so talking about "Arabs and Palestinians" is akin of talking about "French and Parisians".

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                    Edmar145 months, 4 weeks ago

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                    Why make stupid statements. You have no idea of what projects, intelligence, technology and military cooperation the US and Israel partake in together. You have no idea what Israel contributes to the US. Egypt takes over a billion each year. what do they give back to the US? The Palestinian Authority receives more money than any other group in the world, yet almost none of it reaches the people. What in the world makes you think that Israel is fighting a proxy war against Arabs and Palestinians on our behalf? Exactly who are the Palestinians? Please enlighten us with reliable, accurate sources that have indisputable proof that the US is identified as complicit in the actions of Israel. Who feeds you this stuff?

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                      willottica5 months, 4 weeks ago

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                      I'm still waiting for you to cure my ignorance, or at least help me along the way. Can you help, or are you just as ignorant as I am?

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                        Edmar145 months, 4 weeks ago

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                        Israel provides intelligence to the United States and several US allies. Israeli intelligence saved Jordan's King Hussein (deceased now from cancer) on several occasions. Israeli technology has helped with the development of several new weapons systems that they have shared with the US. During the cold war, Israel provided the US with the newest versions of the Russian Mig airplane as they were either captured from Arab countries which received them from the Soviet Union, or they got them from Arab pilots who defected from their country to Israel. Israel is working in conjunction with the US in developing anti-missile systems which no other country has been able to perfect. Israeli satellites provide the US with imagery of Iraq and Afghanistan when US satellites are out of range. No other country that the US has a friendly relationship with in the middle east comes even close to Israel's technological, military or intelligence expertise. I'm sure that Dionys and others will poo pah Israel's contributions to the US, but name one friendly arab country anywhere who comes close to Israel's scientific, industrial, military and intelligence capabilities. Not a single arab country can provide to the US what Israel is able to provide, and that doesn't even start to touch on medicine, electronics and cancer research that the people of the US are able to reap the benefits from. Your cell phone was developed in Israel. There's tons more, but there isn't enough space.

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                      Dionys5 months, 4 weeks ago

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                      "You have no idea what Israel contributes to the US"

                      Apparently you have no idea either or you'd list all those things, yes?

                      We know they contribute spies to the US. That is spies spying ON the US.

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                        Edmar145 months, 4 weeks ago

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                        And you don't think that the US has spies in Israel, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, England, Germany, etc? You really are naive aren't you. Every country, even friends keeps tabs on each other. What do you think the Liberty was doing in Israeli waters during the 1967 war? They made a wrong turn? They were monitoring Israeli military communications It's no secret. During WWII, Eisenhower knew that the British, our closest allies had his quarters monitored. The US did the same to the British. You act like Israel is the only country that keeps tabs on it's friends. It's good propaganda, but it's not true.

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                fishifanb5 months, 4 weeks ago

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                The are God's mighty chosen. Did you not know?

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                  earthlingerer5 months, 4 weeks ago

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                  "God" chooses them regularly, usually to teach them lessons or punish them.

                  They're bad, face it.

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                    Thinker225 months, 4 weeks ago

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                    >The are God's mighty chosen. Did you not know?

                    No, I don't. According to the Bible God chose the Jewish people AS A TOOL for a certain purpose but being chosen for a certain purpose does not make the Jews any better or mightier than the others... just like chosing a certain drill to make a certain size hole does not make that perticular drill any better than other drills.

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                      Edmar145 months, 4 weeks ago

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                      You appear to be an ungodly, mighty idiot. I'd rather be chosen than and idiot.

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                        fishifanb5 months, 4 weeks ago

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                        Godless? Indeed.

                        If that makes me an idiot in your eyes that is fine with me.

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