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engineer6 months ago

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He is absolutely right on Iran. The settlements could be stopped. One thing though, as long as the nut cases want to destroy Israel, no matter what Israel does the nut cases will not stop.

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  engineer6 months ago
  
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  Of course the Jew hating, Israel hating posters will speak against Israel. You know who these crazies are.
  
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  Candida6 months ago
  
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  engineer: "The settlements could be stopped."
  
  Could be or should be?
  
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    engineer6 months ago
    
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    I'm not sure for now. But if it means getting rid of the arguments against Israel, we will see how real the others for having peace. If it does not change their attitudes toward Israel, we gave them the chance. If not keep building since it will make no difference
    
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      beavith16 months ago
      
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      good point. and that's where we are. the only random factor is how fast iran goes nuclear.
      
      i feel like we are watching a slow motion train wreck and are powerless to stop it. the iranians are literally hell-bent on self destruction.
      
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      dissent6 months ago
      
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      I'm not sure for now. But if it means getting rid of the arguments against Israel, we will see how real the others for having peace. If it does not change their attitudes toward Israel, we gave them the chance. If not keep building since it will make no difference
      
      can we take it that this is your endorsement, albeit a reluctant one, to stop settlements? (if not to remove them altogether).
      
      btw.... while stopping the settlements is an important step it's not the end of the journey.
      
      don't expect israel to be lauded with praise and congratulated with peace awards for doing what is its legal obligation. although i don't doubt that is the spin israel and its supporters would take and saturate the media with if it ever happened
      
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        Thinker226 months ago
        
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        > can we take it that this is your endorsement, albeit a reluctant one, to stop settlements? (if not to remove them altogether).
        
        The BEST way to stop (and even remove) the settlements is a peace agreement. I can assure you that not a single Jewish settlement (and not a single Jewish person) will remain within the borders of the Palestinian territories defined by the still non-existent peace agreement.
        
        > btw.... while stopping the settlements is an important step it's not the end of the journey.
        
        Correct. It's neither the beginning of the jorney as well. This is just one of many steps of the process that must begin by a mutual recognition, followed by end of hostilities declaration, peace negotiations and mutually acceptable peace agreement that will define the future steps of the 'jorney' and their timetable.
        
        > don't expect israel to be lauded with praise and congratulated with peace awards for doing what is its legal obligation.
        
        There is no legal obligation for Israel to unilaterally give ANYTHING to the Palestinians and their terrorist leaders. It WILL become an obligation for BOTH sides to comply with the terms of the future peace agreement and no side will be held to those terms in case the other side will break it.
        
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    Thinker226 months ago
    
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    > Could be or should be?
    
    Could be, Candida. If and when the Arabs will decide to make peace with Israel, will recognize the right of Israel to exist within mutually acceptable negotiated borders and will actually negotiate a peace agreement then "could" will be replaced by "should".
    
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