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BB646 months ago
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In a time where money is in very short supply, why would we ever consider building a solar power plant. It's unreliable, the average plant only produces power 20% of the time. The battery or capacitor storage required are not environmentally friendly and a bigger hazard than a coal or natural gas power plant.
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I think if a state or community feels they need to build a plant like they, they should pay for it themselves. Not the tax payers. Raise the money through the sale of bonds like any other power plant.-
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NoWayMan6 months ago
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"In a time where money is in very short supply, why would we ever consider building a solar power plant. It's unreliable, the average plant only produces power 20% of the time."
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not in the southwest.
"The battery or capacitor storage required are not environmentally friendly and a bigger hazard than a coal or natural gas power plant."
thats just a lie, especially where the coal plant is concerned.
"I think if a state or community feels they need to build a plant like they, they should pay for it themselves. Not the tax payers. Raise the money through the sale of bonds like any other power plant"
if you think this is how "any other power plant" got built, you're seriously naive. and that's not even mentioning things like subsidies.-
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BB646 months ago
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Actually, no that isn't. The majority of the power plants we build currently are privately funded investments. You will find many small units in Pakistan, India or Bangladesh. Most are paid for large textile mills. With the plants comes the power for the community. With power comes running water too.
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On your systems, solar is a huge ticket item. Solar like wind, will have a difficult time producing more energy than is used in the building and maintaining of your solar systems. That is if the goal is to reduce carbon output.
On the coal, why is it a lie. Coal can be used and is relatively clean. That is unless you still think CO2 is this evil product. Then the only solution is to reduce the human population by about 60% and move back into caves.-
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NoWayMan6 months ago
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you're full of it.
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no such thing as "clean coal" no matter what you say. coal is not relatively clean. its relatively dirty. duh.
solar is priced heavily up front but anyone with a brainstem, or a solar panel, knows you make the money on the back end since it doens't have the recurring costs that all other sources have. and you can sell excess power back to the grid.
just ask Bush. he installed solar panels on the white house cause they're cost effective. (actually it was carter who installed them, then reagan, in his infinite wisdom (cough!) took them down).
and you obviousy have no idea how much free money existing power companies take out of your own pocket.
another point that I'm sure you didn't know about is how much water each type of energy uses, which is a BIUG factor going forward. and of course, solar is the best choice there as well since things like oil and nuclear use soooo much water that they simply won't be sustainable in the future as water is in shorter and shorter supply.
and of course things water aren't included in any equation of how much energy costs, when it obviously should be, and its obviously being left out of the equation so they can fool people like you, which they've done.
you've got one sitting on your shoulders.
now would be a good time to start using it.
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Dionys6 months ago
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"In a time where money is in very short supply, why would we ever consider building a solar power plant."
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Because scientists have proved that a 100 square mile CSP solar plant in a place like Arizona could power the entire United States? Because every bit of power that comes from solar doesn't come from the House of Saud or feed money into the hands of terrorists? Because it's long overdue.-
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BB646 months ago
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Okay, I'm calling you on this. The technology simply does not support a claim like that. With a grid like that we'd have a problem keeping Vegas lite up.
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Secondly, House of Saud? Since when did they buy coal mines or more importantly, since when did we have cars that ran on electricity that didn't create a potential nightmare environmentally?
You want to stop funding the folks who hate us? I mean Middle Eastern, Mexican or Venezuelan oil interests. Start converting your coal to gasoline. The process exists and could produce something similar to crude oil for about $ 45.00 per barrel. The coal is here, the jobs are here, the profits stay here. Are you following along? By processing it from coal, you also can increase or decrease the carbon in the coal. The waste byproducts for the most part are used in modern plastics so there isn't the worry or concern about waste. You're able to sell them at a modest profit to. It is a win, win. But for some reason, even though the science doesn't support it, carbon is "evil" now.
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