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Posted By greenmac 5 months, 3 weeks ago in Health & FitnessCanada's health care system is a group of socialized health insurance plans that provides coverage to all Canadian citizens. It is publicly funded and administered on a provincial or territorial basis, within guidelines set by the federal government.
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greenmac5 months, 3 weeks ago
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"Canada's health care system is a group of socialized health insurance plans that provides coverage to all Canadian citizens. It is publicly funded and administered on a provincial or territorial basis, within guidelines set by the federal government.
Under the health care system, individual citizens are provided preventative care and medical treatments from primary care physicians as well as access to hospitals, dental surgery and additional medical services. With a few exceptions, all citizens qualify for health coverage regardless of medical history, personal income, or standard of living.
Canada's health care system is the subject of much political controversy and debate in the country. Some question the efficiencies of the current system to deliver treatments in a timely fashion, and advocate adopting a private system similar to the United States. Conversely, there are worries that privatization would lead to inequalities in the health system with only the wealthy being able to afford certain treatments."-
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greenmac5 months, 3 weeks ago
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calitennflo5 months, 3 weeks ago
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Canadians pretty much go by the definition of the words...even if it is in french...and this is why things there go so well...and also why Bush went tearing through the country...Canada looking for some made up ficticious murderer or someone so the US could ruin their laws too. But...the Canadians...have elections and get rid of tyrants....the US can't...they are police chiefs....;that you can not get rid of...and judges that do not know how to read or write English.
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k9kssr5 months, 3 weeks ago
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Thanks for posting Greenmac....that answered some questions and brought up others. For instance, the article used the term "resident" as a qualifier for coverage. Could you clarify what constitutes a "resident" under canadian law.
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I do have a comment about the MRI wait time of "months". When I ruptured a disc in my back, it took almost three months from the time I did it until I had surgery. I admit that some choices I made, like trying alternatives to surgery and waiting on an appointment with a particular neurosurgeon, lengthened the wait time. But I will also admit that by the time I had the surgery, I was darn near suicidal from the pain and had nerve damage in my right leg (which fortunately reversed after the surgery) How are situations like that handled under the canadian system?
Also are there certain circumstances in which care/treatment would be denied based on age or co-morbidities?
Thanks again for posting and hopefully you can answer my questions regarding your health care system.-
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StevieGee5 months, 3 weeks ago
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Due to the profitability (and the coinciding over prescribing) of MRI scans in the US, we have an abundance of the machines and technicians available. It's very possible that the waits here wouldn't be as much of a problem here as in Canada.
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chevydog5 months, 3 weeks ago
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You sort of touched on a question that i've been looking to get answered. Someone in an earlier discussion said that one of the reasons Canadian health care costs were so low was that there wasn't any need to employ people to reject you based on some criteria. So does anyone reject anyone? Obviously patients can say no to treatment. But does a doctor (e.g.) ever say in effect "Doing this particular stuff for you would be a waste of money and/or effort. So we won't"? If so, what criteria do they use?
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As I'm sure you know, private insurance companies in the US do this from time to time, for whatever reason. Sometimes a procedure is "too experimental"; sometimes (and this tends to incense people) it's merely for reasons of internal profitability. I know I was told once that if I were younger surgery would be OK - this was a strained MCL; but at my age they would do physical therapy instead. And I've had an MRI pushed on me whose need I wasn't sure of; and I've rejected surgery because I wasn't sure the doctor who wanted me to have it really got the whole story.
Health care of any type isn't endless. So at some point a "no" has to be the answer to some things. If it's not for proitability or some other "crass" reason, it'll be a doctor (perhaps against my wishes) or even a bureaucrat.-
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greenmac5 months, 3 weeks ago
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I have never known of anyone that has been denied treatment. The only rejection would be if the patients body would not accept any further efforts to save it.In the case of terminal cancer... a person may try to live their last days at home with the assistance of care givers and drugs, or they may go to the palliative care unit of the hospital
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canadianrancher575 months, 3 weeks ago
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k9Kssr- I went through the same thing as you , ruptured the disc between L5 and S1 and had my left leg go completely numb after experiancing the wildest pain that I had ever gone through. LIke an idiot i chose not to have surgery and try to let it get better on its own, and if I do something stupid I really suffer.
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I know a guy who was getting jerked around not by the system but by his doctor, He resorted to something that I didn't think would work but it did, he went to the emergency depatment at the hospital in Brandon , which is the nearest large centre where he could get surgery for back problems, and laid on the floor and screamed bloody murder and any time they tried to move him he screamed more, he received a CT scan within 2 hours and had Surgery the next morning and had good results, some people are so creative.
The way that they do things with the priotity rating I feel at times does cause problems, if you have a doctor that is just a little bit backwards at pushing the system you could be one that has to wait. I think that in both public and private health care the primary doctor can make a big difference in the outcome of a condition.
I don't know about the age thing but I know that my dad is 85 and is on his second hip replacement on the same side and this one is worn out and they are trying to get him to go in and have it replaced, and he refuses to go, he feels that it might kill him.
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GehlLady5 months, 3 weeks ago
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Thanks greenmac.
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As informative as it was, I agree with k9, it raised several questions for me. It mentions doctors and nurses in short supply, and coming here.
Is medical school as expensive there as it is here? Or is it subsidized? Are there legal remedies for genuine malpractice comparable to here?-
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greenmac5 months, 3 weeks ago
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The flow of Doctors and nurses will always be towards the money... but lately I have seen a few of them returning. Money isn't everything its cracked up to be. We do have mal practice suits ...but Canadians don't sue all that much for anything..LOL
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Cost opf education
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_school_in_Can... -
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