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Posted By capj71 6 months ago in News

On ABC’s This Week program today, conservative columnist George Will had some harsh criticism for Sarah Palin’s decision to resign from her position as Alaska governor on Friday. Will said, “Still, she made a contract with them to serve out her term. And she said, in her own words, she now is a quitter.”

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    slate6 months ago

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    She did quit, no wiggle room on that premise.

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      LegalBob6 months ago

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      I'd rather say "resigned". But even if "quit" is the word, "quitter" doesn't mean the same thing given the real reason(s) she's vacatiing the office.

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        tchef6 months ago

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        She quit, accept it!

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          slate6 months ago

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          Approached with the mindset of a lawyer.

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      LegalBob6 months ago

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      Right, just make all the conclusions before hearing the real reason(s). Typical media. I don't think she actually said "quitter" but I didn't hear all of the announcment. Fashion statement at best by Will.

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        UnusualSuspect6 months ago

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        As pointed out in one commentary, she used a sports metaphor (from basketball) of "passing the ball to win the game."

        But another sports metaphor, a general one says "winners never quit, and quitters never win."

        Is she passing the ball, or throwing in the towel?

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          Georgia506 months ago

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          Say what you want (read: what Fox News said you liberals would say before you even heard the news).

          As usual, Sarah nailed liberals to the wall mercilessly. You clowns haven't been able to figure her out from day one, as demonstrated by your relentless and meritless attacks on her and her children. And despite her clear outspoken principles, you still don't have a clue.

          She said, repeatedly, "no more politics as usual." So what do all the court jesters across the political spectrum say? "Sarah's not doing this the way it's supposed to be done." In military parlance, we refer to this as a lethal preemptive strike.

          She also said, "Only dead fish go with the flow." Right up there next to the complaint that she's not doing politics as usual is the complaint that she's not going with the flow. Gee...ya think?

          There's no questioning your political metaphor. Truly, "winners never quit, and quitters never win." This may come as news to someone like Sarah Palin who has not yet begun to fight.

          Do you liberals honestly want that fight now that Palin cannot be harassed by a Democratic-agitated state ethics panel? Now you can't simply dial-a-complaint to ensnare the Governor. You are dealing with a private citizen who is free to travel the nation, network, raise funds, develop a grass roots campaign--all this while waiting for the Messiah to pave her way to the White House over the bodies of the unemployed (as he's clearly intent on doing).

          When Sarah Palin is sworn into office in January 2013, you liberals will have the dubious honor of looking back on your gutless, heartless, hate-filled attacks on anything and everything Sarah and have yourselves to thank for freeing her up to master the momentum YOUR MESSIAH is forfeiting to her.

          Another thing about winners you ought not forget. Kerry, Bush, Clinton, Obama--all campaigned for either a nomination or an office with their cushy little governorship or senate seat as their safety net.

          Sarah Palin just threw away her safety net. Now might be a good time to start taking her seriously even if you can't stand her politics.

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            StevieGee6 months ago

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            Oh... I see Georgia, thanks for explaining it to me. It's all about getting out from under that pesky ethics thing.

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              Georgia506 months ago

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              If the ethics issues were so pesky, why did Democrats repeatedly try so desperately to hang baseless ethics charges on her? Why the constant attacks on her and her children? Attacks you liberals would never tolerate against the children of your kind?

              Interesting how your pathetic ethics rants, thrown out one by one, mean all in the world while you're feverishly conjuring them up, but the minute she shelves them and walks away, they're now merely "pesky."

              Must really suck having a mere hockey mom deprive you of your one and only attack methodology. But hey...she still has kids. Do what liberals do best and go after them.

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                djn3nunez36 months ago

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                Attacks you liberals would never tolerate against the children of your kind?

                What did Boss Limbaugh say about the Clintons children? Hmm, what did the Bush campaign say about McCains children during the 2000 primary?

                But you go right ahead and pretend it is a liberal thing.....

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                  Georgia506 months ago

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                  Clintons' "children"?

                  Uhhhh...ok.

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                  StevieGee6 months ago

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                  I said nothing about her children. She dragged her children all around the country and put them on display. I kind of feel sorry for them, being used as political pawns and all. They did get to go to the lamest national political convention ever though. That has nothing to do with political ethics.

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                UnusualSuspect6 months ago

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                "You clowns haven't been able to figure her out from day one..."

                Some Republicans/conservatives don't exactly seem to understand her bizarre tactics, either...

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                  Georgia506 months ago

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                  Good point, U.S.

                  And maybe her political days are over. Maybe I'm completely wrong and the majority of the pundits have it right. I accept that possibility. However, my point is that her lack of convention is not something she hides. She has been forthright about us "normal" people having a positive effect on the political sphere of life all along. I believe hers to be a valid principle, and I think her political opponents ignore it to their peril.

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                    UnusualSuspect6 months ago

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                    I agree...I give her lots of credit for being out there, and sticking to her principles.

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                  djn3nunez36 months ago

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                  In military parlance, we refer to this as a lethal preemptive strike.

                  Hahahahaha, more likely it will be a strategic blunder (just like GW and Iraq).

                  When Sarah Palin is sworn into office in January 2013

                  Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

                  Good one. George Will the Liberal? ( hahahaha again)

                  President Obama is in fact human and capable of mistakes, but when he gets sworn into his second term I seriously doubt that it will be Sarah Palin whom he beats in the 2012 election.

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                wtagg6 months ago

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                Could you provide instances where a politician truthfully gave the *real* reason?

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                  MisterX6 months ago

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                  Even Hillary vowed to not run for office several years before she ran.

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                jaern6 months ago

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                "It is very possible that her Friday attempt to further her political ambitions will result in the end of her political career."

                That's some pitbull.

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                  Jeboba6 months ago

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                  one can only hope!

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                  tchef6 months ago

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                  How can anyone feel that she will fulfill any promise on the national level if she can't fulfill the commitment she made to Alaska.

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                    Georgia506 months ago

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                    Where in the hell was Democratic concern for her commitment to Alaska when you Democrats were piling up one baseless ethics complaint after another, wasting valuable Alaskan resources in the millions of dollars?

                    And now you have the temerity to question HER commitment?

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                      tchef6 months ago

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                      Did Bill Clinton quit when Republicans spent 8 years and millions of dollars in taxpayer money to hound him about Whitewater? Has Obama quit after the Republicans have spent all their time accusing him of everything from being a Muslim, to not being born in America, to having a homosexual relationship in a limo?

                      If she had nothing to hide, why did she quit?

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                        Georgia506 months ago

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                        Excellent point. Which Republican forced Bill Clinton to commit perjury? Which Republican forced Clinton to have an affair with Lewinsky while Al Qaeda planned 9/11? Point that Republican out to me and I'll oppose him/her to the day I die.

                        No accusation against Obama triggered the action of an ethics panel. In Palin's case, it was an ethics panel she had a hand in creating.

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                          TimFL206 months ago

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                          Georgia,

                          Thinking like yours is what frightens me about this country. Do you personally know without any doubt that Ms. Palin did not commit any of those acts which have been accused? Are you absolutely certain that they are all "baseless?" Because unless that is the case, it is intellectually shallow for you to attack "you Democrats" who 'waste taxpayer money with frivolous claims' because you do not know whether they are in fact baseless or not unless you are one of those people who just claim as fact what they want to believe because it supports their own sense of value and self. It would be intellectually honest and fair to support Sarah herself, mind you, if you believe she hasn't done anything improper, but it is unfair for you to judge those who inquire whether this is actually true. I hope that you can understand the distinction.

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                      MisterX6 months ago

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                      Answer: You roll the dice and hope for the best.

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                      calitennflo6 months ago

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                      George Will chickened out when the correspondents from the New York times went to court because of Bush and the spys of the NSA. What happened? Did someone threaten him...see a man is making a chicken again...when there is no such thing....just a hen and a rooster.

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                        Progressive6 months ago

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                        When you order chicken in a restaurant, do you know whether it's hen or rooster?

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                        ADAGUY6 months ago

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                        Sorry, but I just don't see the big deal about her resigning, or "quitting".
                        While I didn't agree with her platform, she was the smarter of the two, between her and McCain.
                        However, if there are some type of charges that follow, then I will have no mercy on her whatsoever.

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                          tanglang6 months ago

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                          I really hate to get all "aunt louisie" before 8 am but I got to. Sorry.

                          If McCain is so stupid what does that make Obama? Obama clowned on McCain when he said the fundamentals of the economy are strong only to change his mind and quote McCain six months later. At the very least it says that Obama is slower than McCain.

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                            vor6 months ago

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                            An excellent example of con logic! Or lack thereof!

                            Somehow by your deduction Palin is the wisest of the three? LOFL!

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                              Goppy6 months ago

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                              LOL ... good one vor.
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                                tanglang6 months ago

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                                Really? Because no where in my statement did I even mention Palins name. Only a couple of first rate tools would go where you went instead of actually trying to refute my point.

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                              kfolive6 months ago

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                              tang - making that statement makes you look really stupid.

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                                tanglang6 months ago

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                                How? And what exactly was the point in your comment? You just felt like being a douche? Is that it? You are not smart enough to explain where I am wrong so you say that I look stupid and keep going? No one likes a jerk ass. So hows about you not act like one ok?

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                                  kfolive6 months ago

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                                  Well Tang. You know you started it. Obama runs circles around mccain and isn't even winded. The only way someone could not see that is if they were not thinking clearly. I will refrain in the future from name calling because you are correct. That is counter productive but, you are wrong. And if you still believe you are correct please provide documentation. Also if you remember at all, at that time everyone was being fed a load of crap so the belief then may have been based on incorrect information that was the norm.

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                                    tanglang6 months ago

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                                    If yall say Obama is smarter than McCain yet acknowledge that Obama ripped off the very line he made fun of McCain for using months earlier what does that say about you?

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                                      kfolive6 months ago

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                                      Since you do not follow directions correctly, please refrain from commentary of which you provide no proof. btw - "yall" gave you away.

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                                        tanglang6 months ago

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                                        Are you saying that Obama did not ridicule McCain for saying that "the fundamentals of the economy are strong" only to say 6 months later that "the fundamentals of the economy are sound"?

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                                          kfolive6 months ago

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                                          I asked you to show me that comment from a reputable news source.

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                                            tanglang6 months ago

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                                            Get your google on!

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                                              kfolive6 months ago

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                                              If you make a statement and are asked to support it and you don't, there is no reason to believe you or care about what you say. In the future be prepared to provide the proof or don't make the claim.

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                                                tanglang6 months ago

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                                                My point is that if you are so ignorant that you don't already know the story why should I waste some precious time on educating you?

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                                                  kfolive6 months ago

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                                                  There are a million stories and a million more that people like you are making up. Put up or shut up.

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                                                    tanglang6 months ago

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                                                    The fact that you are so reluctant to look for yourself means that you know I'm right and are trying to not admit it.

                                                    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2008/09/15/mcc...

                                                    In this first link you will see that Obama blasted McCain for saying that the fundamentals of the economy are strong. In March Obama talked about the fundamentally sound economy. His key advisor actually used the phrase "the fundamentals of the economy are sound."

                                                    Seriously though, you'll feel much better about yourself if you educate yourself as opposed to begging for info from others.

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                                                      kfolive5 months, 4 weeks ago

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                                                      Please send the second link

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                                                        kfolive5 months, 3 weeks ago

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                                                        Still waiting......

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                              Jeboba6 months ago

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                              George Will is a neocon. He supports the radical right wing in everything he says. For him to put Sarah down is truthful and straight forward. The man does have a backbone and a conscience. I never woulda thought it of him!

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                                bluetexasvalley6 months ago

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                                I don't think George Wiil is a neocon. I think he is a true conservative of the old-fashioned variety.

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                                  Goppy6 months ago

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                                  I agree bluetexasvalley.

                                  A Neo-Conservative holds a very specific geo-political philosophy that is specific in it's vision.

                                  Plus ... for the most part ... Neo-Conservatism is fundamentally Morally Vacant.

                                  George Will, as you say ... is an 'old school' ... Fiscal Conservative ... Small Government fellow.

                                  Fiscal Conservatism and Small Government are not ideals Neo-Conservatives care about.
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                                  k9kssr6 months ago

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                                  Now, now jebob, calm down before you get called a hypocrite. Ya know, like the left did when the right supported that elderly lefty newspaper reporter for calling Obama a fake about his townhalls and conferences.

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                                    vor6 months ago

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                                    Helen Thomas is an old venerated reporter who has sat in the press corps for decades. She gripes and b-tches all of the time. It's how she usually gets her way. Most generally ignore her, her best years are long past and she holds an almost honorary position. She is also getting abit senile. Not Strom Thurmond senile but she does have her good and bad days.

                                    But ask her how she is treated compared to the last 8 years? When she was shuttled to the back row and ignored by Bush on virtually every press conference. He rarely called on her and when he did he was usualy excoriated by her.

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                                    vor6 months ago

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                                    Let's be correct here, George Will is not a neocon!

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                                      crespi6 months ago

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                                      He has just been their stooge and defended their heinousness on many occasions.

                                      That makes it better(?)

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                                        vor6 months ago

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                                        Not always. He was a proponent of the work done by Gates and Petraeus that finally made some progress in Iraq. That was the beginning of the end of neocon dominance. Cheney was severely weakened until he began acting as the rogue head of the Party by default after the election. A heinous mistake by Republicans not to distance themselves immediately from him. Instead many embraced him as an anchor. But what and who (Kristol, Limbaugh, Palin, etc.) he is anchored to is the real problem. Cheney liked being in charge although he wants nothing to do with elections (he isn't an electable type himself).

                                        Will is an intellectual geek. One of the few on the Right. He is part of the moderate (?) Right not the Far Right where the neocons lurk.

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                                    oldslowjim6 months ago

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                                    Let's face it folks, it is about money. From what I know, her family is of modest means. Over the last 9 months she has racked up $500,000 in legal bills due to frivolous ethics complaints. That means in the next 18 months she could have another $1.5 million.

                                    How would you like to have this kind future facing you. Hell, I would quit too so I wouldn't compromise my families future.

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                                      tchef6 months ago

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                                      Modest means? She has been making over 6 figures since her first government appointment!! I don't make that. And that doesn't include what her husband makes. If she needs the money so bad maybe she shouldn't have quit her job!

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                                        oldslowjim6 months ago

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                                        She makes $125,000 a year as governor. In addition, it is only guaranteed for the next 1 and 1/2 years. After that, who knows?

                                        That's not a lot of salary to be looking for paying off that amount of debt.

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                                        Tangent0016 months ago

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                                        Didn't she just get a $7 million book deal?

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                                          Progressive6 months ago

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                                          ...yes she did:

                                          http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and...

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                                            oldslowjim6 months ago

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                                            Do you have any clue about the book deal? How much much of the $7 million is guaranteed? How much of an advance did she get? How much is contingent upon sales, meeting a deadline, or paying editors?

                                            Sounds good but unless you know the details, you have no clue what the ultimate amount that she may receive will be.

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                                              Tangent0016 months ago

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                                              Oh come on! If Obama had just secured a $7 mil. deal and someone claimed he was living on 'meager means' you would be all over it!

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                                                oldslowjim6 months ago

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                                                Just exactly what does your comment have to do with anything? Sounds like jealousy to me!

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                                            Ciera-Marie6 months ago

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                                            "How would you like to have this kind future facing you. Hell, I would quit too so I wouldn't compromise my families future."

                                            Then she never should've run for a. governor b. VP in the first place if she was so concerned about her family's future.

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                                              oldslowjim6 months ago

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                                              So you are agreeing that it is ok for Democrat operatives to drive folks out of office thru bankrupting them? What a sad commentary upon the people in politics today.

                                              All I can say is, be careful, what goes around will come around!

                                              Your opinion is based upon hindsight which is always 20/20. Do you really think people anticipating running for governor and/or VP should put into their calculations that they will need the financial resources to defend themselves against frivolous ethics complaints. I'll tell you right now, rich folks, very rich folks will be the only ones running for these offices if that is the case. Do you really want our government run by rich people?

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                                            Goppy6 months ago

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                                            oldslowjim makes a good point. The Palin's legal bills cannot be addressed by her Governor's salary.

                                            She's very ... VERY effective as a fund raiser for the GOP. She has a very specific message that resonates with those invested in the Culture War.

                                            She could also make a lot of money as a guest commenter for FOX.

                                            Of course, the other side of this mountain is the 'so called' Iceberg Scandal that is brewing. This is an almost identical ethics faux pas as Senator Ted Stevens' - in which he was alleged to have steered contracts to a builder in exchange for the builder providing free construction to his home.

                                            I would hate to see that this would be the reason she is resigning - because she's preparing for that embarrassment.

                                            There is just too much of this 'pay to play' thing going on in Government.
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                                              oldslowjim6 months ago

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                                              Thanks for your comment.

                                              One thing I didn't address was the need to provide for future support for her youngest child. I suspect, knowing how conservative she is, that Palin would not expect the "government" to support her Down's child completely. This means doing the best you can to provide some kind of trust fund for that child. $500,000 or $1 mil would be a good start on that. That may very well be the "family" reason for resigning. Better than paying lawyers the money!

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                                              fempatriot6 months ago

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                                              For once, I agree with George Will. I think Palin has a difficult time dealing with criticism, whether it is deserved or not. She tends to react to every negative comment about her or her family. In fact, her family has a lot to be critical about; so has she. She already took off for months from her job when she campaigned for VP--and she kept the reins of power of governor even though she was not in Alaska and not actually governing. Whoever the new governor of Alaska may be, I think he'll do a better job than Sarah Palin. Maybe he'll actually stay home and govern Alaska--which is what Alaskan voters deserved from Palin.

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                                                oldslowjim6 months ago

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                                                Funny that you don't mention Obama, Biden, or McCain as to taking off for months during the presidential campaign and abandoning their commitment to "governing". Or is it only mothers that are required to not run for national office while holding another political office?

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                                                Charlson6 months ago

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                                                He's consistent. He was a firm critic of Palin as McCain's choice of VP.

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                                                  simonsez6 months ago

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                                                  George shoots straight ...

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                                                    Charlson6 months ago

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                                                    And then turns way to the right.

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                                                  kfolive6 months ago

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                                                  Thank goodness she was NOT our VP. There is much more to that picture then meets the eye. Like insanity!!!

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                                                    sddsj6 months ago

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                                                    SHE WAS TOO FAR FROM THE LIME LIGHT IN ALASKA. SHE CAN'T STAND BEING SO FAR AWAY. SHE IS TRYING TO EXTEND HER 15 MINUTES OF FAME.

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                                                      simonsez6 months ago

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                                                      I don't know what her role will be in American politics, but she will continue to have one. When she is the main topic on the Sunday news shows because she resigned her office, she is a player.

                                                      While I like Sarah and think she got a raw deal from McCain's group, the press and the public, I don't believe she would be qualified to be President in the near future.

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                                                        crespi6 months ago

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                                                        A kid stuck in a well can be the main topic of the Sunday news show.

                                                        Incidentally, on Friday, MSNBC was covering the story for ONE HOUR AND FIFTY FIVE MINUTES before FoxNes or CNN even mentioned it.

                                                        Then both FoxNews and CNN immediately returned to more hours about Michael Jackson.

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                                                        djn3nunez36 months ago

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                                                        Mayber she and Joe the (Liar)Plumber can hook up and go on the "Hatred for the Other America Tour"

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                                                          crhalt6 months ago

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                                                          She came in 4th place in the last presidential race. She wants
                                                          to start cross training now with hopes to come in 3rd next
                                                          time. Fame and Power is a hard drink to swallow..Look at
                                                          poor little kim jong ill. As cartman sez..Screw You Guys
                                                          I'm Going Home..And then it's..TMZ..I,m ready for my close up

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                                                          coolslow6 months ago

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                                                          Whatever Sarah is up to, it is quite clear that she is a force to be dealt with. She gives a fifteen minute backyard impromptu press conference in Alaska and knocks Michael Jackson, Sanford, Health Care and the recession out of the news. The left is in a sweat wondering what her next move is and looking to launch a preemptive strike on any front. The right can't figure it out either and wonder who among them are potential winners and losers, depending on what Sarah does.

                                                          Consider this: She is attacked as the Wasila Hillbilly, gov of a a small population state, (Hillbilly Clinton from Hope, Arkansas), her kids have funny names (Barack's kids are named Sasha and Malika), She quit the governorship (Obama and Biden quit the Senate),her kid got pregnant (Edwards impregnated his staffer), She is not really representative of small town values and America, ( Ivy Leaguers are?) She is hypocritical (see above.)

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                                                            pmssch6 months ago

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                                                            Dear Mr. Will,
                                                            I only wish you would quit as well. As a writer you are useless and I don't think you have any other talents so I guess quitting is not an option. Not reading your drivel is
                                                            something the rest of us can do. Are you perhaps jealous that this woman has more balls than you and the majority of your political cronies? When my girlfriends and I wonder where all the real men have gone, we can at least be comforted in the fact that we have Sarah Palin out there saying what needs to be said. I guess it really does take a woman to do what was once a man's job.

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                                                              TimFL206 months ago

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                                                              i don't even know why i'm responding to this at all. this is seriously one of the emptiest, dumbest things I've ever read.

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                                                              wadisplace6 months ago

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                                                              THANK GOD SHE DIDN'T BECOME VICE PRESIDENT. McCAIN WOULD BE LOOKING FOR A NEW VP RIGHT NOW. AND TO THINK ABOUT IT...THANK GOD McCAIN DIDN'T BECOME PRESIDENT, HAVING PICKED A VP LIKE PALIN. I WONDER WHAT OTHER SCREWED UP CHOICES HE WOULD HAVE MADE.

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                                                                Taelron6 months ago

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                                                                Broken promises
                                                                She promised to serve as Governor of Alaska, that suffered while she was off playing VP prospect... Pretty much abandoning her state for the most part during the campaign just a year after being elected...

                                                                Now 2 1/2 years into her term with another year and a half left and shes quitting. I might given her some credibility had she said "I'm not running for a second term, but darn it all if I dont do my best for the time I have left"... Instead she decided she is tired of playing Governor and is simply walking out on the people of Alaska, the very people that elected her because they believed in her. It is them she is letting down.

                                                                A year on the campaign trail and a year and a half left on her term as she leaves means she basically only served 18 months as the governor of Alaska, thats not even half of her elected term.

                                                                If she cant stand the rigors of governing one state, how can we expect her to govern 50 states and various territorys?

                                                                If she cant keep a promise to the people of the state that elected her to office, how can we expect her to keep her promise to the rest of the country? So a year or two into office as president and gosh darn it things aren't going well she is just going to up and quit and walk out of that too?

                                                                The fact she pulled this on a state level has stymied her politcal career. Anytime she runs for any position in the future this will be brought up showing she is unfit to lead the nation when the going gets tough.

                                                                I'm amazed so many people are still willing to stand blindly behind her while she is walking away without a care about her word to those very same people. And that makes me even more sad...

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