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Posted By deathray 5 months, 2 weeks ago in Political OpinionThere are two reasons Palin is taken more seriously than she deserves.
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deathray5 months, 2 weeks ago
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What can you say about a public official who ridicules those who would take the "quitter's way out" -- as she faces reporters to announce that she's quitting? A governor who claims that "the worthless, easy path" would be to serve out the remaining 18 months of her term? An ambitious politician who says that "life is too short" to worry about, you know, boring things such as responsibility or duty? -
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deathray5 months, 2 weeks ago
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The reasons she gave for stepping down are not just contrived or implausible but literally nonsensical. She can most effectively serve the people of Alaska by ceasing to exercise the powers of chief executive? She worries that as a lame duck she would somehow be compelled to waste taxpayer money on useless junkets? In her "Don't Cry For Me, Alaska" news conference announcing her departure, the folksy non sequiturs -- "Only dead fish go with the flow" -- were like nuggets of Cartesian logic amid a tub of mush.-
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vor5 months, 2 weeks ago
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It is endlessly amusing that there appear to be a fairly large group of Americans who can make sense out of her nonsense. What does that say about the way these people have educated themselves (including Mrs. Palin)? We cannot accept such mediocrity in our elected officials. Fine for ordinary citizens to walk around in such a state but we are talking about "leaders". Odd that Mrs. Palin seems to have the look and allure of a leader with no other accompanying skills. Her briefing came across more like a PTA announcement than anything meriting national attention. And as always she had to drag the kids into the fray.
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Stupidity, hypocrisy, revisionism. It isn't hard to see why Rush Limbaugh sees her as the ideal candidate for his drooling masses.-
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Beau78905 months, 2 weeks ago
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It is endlessly amusing that there appear to be a fairly large group of Americans who can make sense out of her nonsense. What does that say about the way these people have educated themselves (including Mrs. Palin)?
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It says that half the people are of below-average intelligence.
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crespi5 months, 2 weeks ago
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Been watching FoxNews frantically TRY to put a positive spin on this one.
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(It's hard not to gloat after having these people scream about their "moral superiority"over everyone else for so long.)
All they can come up with is that she is such a victim.
Poor little defenseless Sarah.-
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vor5 months, 2 weeks ago
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"Most candidates, most public officials get to look into a camera and say, 'you better leave your hands off my kids,'" she said. "Well I haven't been able to say that. And that double standard that's been applied, that's been a little bit frustrating."
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Quote from Fox News article. Amazing hypocrisy. She gives the press conference the other day and who is front and center...the kids! She is so illogical that it is frustrating that she isn't called out more, not less. There is no double standard. Keep the kids in the house when you are politicing. She paraded them from St. Paul all the way to the return to Wasilla and beyond. The double standard is yours Sarah.
This whole victim act is now her campaign. She's just independent, innocent, little Sarah, the homemaker. Talk about a load of "bull cr-p" as she called the stories about her in the media. This woman is dangerous. Dangerous to the future of this country. Even her presence in a race will dramatically create the level of hatred. Let's see her run a campaign without solely focusing negatively on her opponent. Try selling yourself Sarah, instead of spending all of your time running down others and playing the victim. Ask yourself perhaps once, WWJD? You are a disgrace to your Christian faith with your negativity. I see nothing in Jesus' word that advocates her position as a victim or a hatemonger.-
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bruhaha5 months, 2 weeks ago
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"Quote from Fox News article. Amazing hypocrisy. She gives the press conference the other day and who is front and center...the kids! She is so illogical that it is frustrating that she isn't called out more, not less."
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One has to wonder if she puts the kids out there so people will comment that they're out there so she can complain that people are commenting on her kids.
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oneironaut4205 months, 2 weeks ago
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"All they can come up with is that she is such a victim."
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Heh...I don't watch Fox, so...are you SERIOUS?
OK, let me see if I understand this...the woman who just recently wanted to be the second highest elected official in the nation unexpectedly quit her position as the highest elected official of a state, and they're blaming the liberals for picking on her??
OMG, LOL...can you imagine the UPROAR if a Democratic governor quit because everyone was being "mean" to him/her?
Now, my challenge to all the conservatives on this site is simply this: Deny that you would be having an absolute FIELD DAY if the situations were reversed. Deny that you would be calling the Democratic governor a coward, a wimp, a wussy...every yellow-bellied name in the book.
And then, explain why you're not saying the same about her?
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bruhaha5 months, 2 weeks ago
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"OK, let me see if I understand this...the woman who just recently wanted to be the second highest elected official in the nation unexpectedly quit her position as the highest elected official of a state, and they're blaming the liberals for picking on her??"
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And if she did somehow become president, what would she do if some foreign leader said "mean" things about her?
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GLee5 months, 2 weeks ago
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Ms. Palin is an awesome woman with alot of courage. She has been unfairly raked over the coals in a fashion that I havn't seen in my day. I am not saying she is Presidential material or not, just that her treatment from the media has been a total disaster and has caused many to loose credibility. The best thing she could do is ignore the insults. Only take on the facts. What a shame to treat any person is such a manner.
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With that said, I don't think she made a wise decision to step down as governer of the Great State of Alaska but maybe her reasoning outweighs my thoughts. Dunno??
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Progressive5 months, 2 weeks ago
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...how about this one?:
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http://www.caglecartoons.com/images/preview/%7B4b5...
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ChefEOD5 months, 2 weeks ago
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"not because she wants to serve America, but because she is self serving"
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I will have to disagree with this assessment.
1) Her "approval rating" has dropped about in half with the state dems no longer willing to work with her (or given marching orders not to); she is no longer nearly as effective & efficient in getting things done. If this simple fact is true (and it is), she is doing exactly what the state needs. Time will tell if her replacement is able to garner that bi-partisan support she enjoyed in the past.
2) With half a million in legal fees sitting on her door step and no viable way to pay for that while in office, I would be hitting the talk circuit too.
Can’t call it self-serving if it is a win-win situation.
"Mrs. Palin has attempted to extend her fame way past the 15 minute mark allotted to her"
We can say that about anyone that is in the public eye can't we? Especially applicable to everyone who is a career politician.
On another subject, had any good Thai food lately? They have a new cook at the restaurant I like here, probably the closest to what I remember the "real stuff" tasting like way back when. LOL - of course, the first stuff I ate over there were some dog kabobs. I didn't know it at the time, but tasty, mmmm-
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deathray5 months, 2 weeks ago
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look, it's not about taking care of her own; the people of alaska put their trust in her. she left in favor of making money and promoting herself...in the guise of a higher calling. the fact is, she was not good at governing, and found the spotlight too hot after being inflammatory, foolish, and then playing the victim.
i don't favor Mrs. Palin's politics, but even more than that, i find it very difficult to condone or be supportive of, her behavior.
my two cents...and i'm sure many will value it as even less...;)-
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Radiofreeeuropa5 months, 2 weeks ago
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A bargain in any economic condition DR...
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The truth is that Palin had a high approval rate in the state because the Alaskan welfare state was handing out checks. (bribes from the fossil fuel industries windfall profits) . Once people had a look at her carnival when she appeared on McCain's flaming "straight talk" covered wagon her approval rate tanked and has not recovered. This latest buffoonery likely only leads to a gig at Faux Noose. -
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Ciera-Marie5 months, 2 weeks ago
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She has a multi million dollar book contract. Plus she made six figures as a Governor. I don't think she's hurting for money.
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She's a quitter. Governor Ventura did not have bipartisan support when he was Gov. of MN. Both parties were unified (and his biggest outspoken critic is Gov. Pawlenty who once he got into office did some of the things Gov Ventura wanted done.) against him. He finished his term.-
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Radiofreeeuropa5 months, 2 weeks ago
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What politician has ever left because they just felt like it?
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None that I can name.
It's always because of a scandal or severe health issues.
Not because they can't have their way or because it's not easy.
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JamesMarcus5 months, 2 weeks ago
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Re: fourth graders, I see your point. I hope they were listening. It was a mighty good history of Arkansas, even if the vocabulary was simplified.
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When I was working on that book, I got around the state a bit: Little Rock, Hot Springs, Arkadelphia. I was sorry to miss Fayetteville, I always hear it's a nice town.
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Ciera-Marie5 months, 2 weeks ago
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Those who have left office without finishing their term were either a. elected to a higher office b. had to resign because of a personal scandal c. had to resign because of health issues they had d. death.
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So quitting just to quit is about country? Is she serious?
Sure she can rally people together but when push comes to shove, when it comes time to do/finish the job she bails. Love or hate him at least Gov (HE is a Republican. NOT a democrat.). lame duck, Pawlenty is attempting to finish the job he was elected to. Even though he's gone down in MN has the VETO king. Though he's checked out to. He hasn't resigned but its the same thing. He knows that if quit his job as Governor it would look bad when he tries to run for either VP or Pres.
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quicksilver06025 months, 2 weeks ago
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"You can say that all of us who ever took Sarah Palin seriously -- or pretended to take her seriously..."
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It's early in the article but one of my favorite lines.
If the GOP wishes to be taken seriously, they need to choose candidates that have more to offer than simply playing the role of tactical pawns in the dying moments of a campaign.
Palin excels in role playing and will attempt to re-write the script...if not her recent history...the closer we get to 2012. -
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gamahuche5 months, 2 weeks ago
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I'm frequently hideously embarrassed by the idiocies of our politicians.
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Whacking each other on the head in meetings - which they may well have gone into with half-a-dozen beers clutched between their fingers.
Their apparent excuse is that we're a "young democracy".
Does Palin have any equivalent excuse for her immaturity?
Like having the Russians so close and breathing vodka fumes down her blouse, perhaps??
I give up!
I never figured what the heck McCain was doing with this clown, since presumably he wasn't screwing her.-
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AnteUp5 months, 2 weeks ago
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Trying to put some oomph into a tired campaign.
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That's not a valid reason to put someone SO inexperienced - and unsuitable -
a heartbeat away from the Presidency - but that shows how much it has become okay to put Party interests above those of the nation. No one seems ashamed when they say it was a good
move strategically. Being strategic to party dominance has NOTHING to do with keeping our country solvent or strong, or fulfilling any duty to lead. -
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lvrofwolves5 months, 2 weeks ago
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I'm always reminded of hyenas or weasels when I think of ANY politician....
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do I think she's quitting because of anything remotely resembling honorable???
HELL NO!
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PapaWolf5 months, 2 weeks ago
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>>I never figured what the heck McCain was doing with this clown, since presumably he wasn't screwing her.
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I'm sorry, but this was a bit TOOO obvious. They picked Palin because they believed the Hilary voters were only voting for Hilary because she was a woman & would immediately flock to the next woman on the ticket. They didn't realize that Hilary supporters were voting for a woman who is extremely intelligent, competent, knowledgeable, & actually knew what magazines & newspapers she regularly read.
Same reason they picked an incompetent black man to run the RNC.
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Poulenc5 months, 2 weeks ago
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She'll be taken seriously as long as the GOP sees in her someone around which to rally the troops.
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And she does make great press: the left loves to dish her, the right (or a grassroots part of it) to defend her.
She's also...photogenic. And a nothing-to-something someone, in the great Amurican tradition.-
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hyperbola5 months, 2 weeks ago
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How sad that the GOP thinks that so many Americans are so dumb and docile that a Palin can rally them as "troops".
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How sad that the "media" uses "pie-fights" to distract Americans from real issues and problems. They also seem to think most Americans are dumb and docile.
How sad that "photogenic" seems the most important qualification.
Frankly, the whole Palin episode is a good example of how much disdain our "elite" and the media they own has for Americans.-
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Commodore15 months, 2 weeks ago
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I don't buy it. This is just the opinion of one nazi liberal reporter who imagines he knows what he's talking about. Of course w/the appalling arrogance and drone like mentality of most liberals they will buy it. Oh no. This is just the beginning. Sarah Palin is a lion and when she roars she is going to shake up and scare every nazi liberal in America. She will scare them more than they already are of her. Not only will she scare them but she will make believers out of them. Well that applies to those liberals who have more than two functioning brain particles. Give them hell Sarah!
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dunkirk5 months, 2 weeks ago
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Actually when she roars she scares most sane and rational people that someone who is soooo clueless could have been chosen as the VP candidate of a formerly majpor political party in the US. But if you think on it the Repulicans havent been noted for selecting strong candidates but rather front men, people who cna be manipulated and perform a role as dictated by those pulling the strings. Palin is probably the best example of that, totally clueless and also unwilling to put in the time to brush up on things she should know. The republicans seem intent on becoming more and more unimportant and for some reason seem to be proud of that fact.
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Ciera-Marie5 months, 2 weeks ago
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She doesn't scare me.
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Palin resigns amidst ethics scandal as governor, has had numerous family issues, can't handle the job she was elected to do, but does a good job rallying people.
Pawlenty announced with hardly no fanfare that he wasn't running for reelection, his family has stayed out of the limelight (no scandals and we in MN would know about it especially after his VP nomination last summer.) and has done a few things that I have to give him credit for. Most of what he's done has not been good for the majority of Minnesotians. He is definitely a party player. Whatever the RNC wants he gives them. He also knows to run to Iraq or Afghanistan when doing something he knows will not be good for MN and that he'll have to answer for.
I never in million years thought I'd ever have to point out to Republicans the better of two potential candidates for President.
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Spadecaller5 months, 2 weeks ago
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"...I feel sorry for conservatives who look to her as a champion because she's going to let them down."
Eugene Robinson, the writer of this article, is one of my favorite reporters, but I must confess he is definitely a more forgiving man than I. And that is my polite way of disagreeing with the use of the word "immaturity" in describing Sarah Palin.
I could not muster much compassion for Republicans who have already paid a steep premium for supporting Sarah Palin. As for me, describing Governor Palin as immature is more polite than informative. Unless one presumes that unscrupulous demagoguery is a phase young politicians often outgrow. Exploiting bigotry against Muslims, racism, and using the fear of terrorism to promote a presidential campaign is more than just a mistake of an enthusiastic neophyte.
It is easy to package Sarah Palin; the oil companies and the military industrialists have been more than willing to pave her way into the White House. Americans and the media need to take a good look at what she really is; a ruthless politician who has no problem stepping over the bodies that she often leaves in her wake. Will her victims remember her perfume and pageant walking? I think not.
Who should we take seriously? How about the mainstream media owned and paid for by the military industrial complex and the oil companies who lobby our government hoping to find Sarah Palin or some other malleable sycophant a home in the White House? -
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simonsez5 months, 2 weeks ago
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What is unclear to me is why she has been singled out to be the reviled individual in the history of politics.
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She was drafted into the VP position by McCain, spent 2 months on the campaign trail in a failed attempt at the presidency, then became the target of law suits, the butt of everyone's jokes on late night, the press trying to destroy her family at every turn and causing her to spend $500,000 to defend herself from frivolous lawsuits.
What do you people gain from this barrage of personal attacks on this lady. What's the joy in this for you?
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Will13135 months, 2 weeks ago
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What do you people gain from this barrage of personal attacks on this lady
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many of her campaign speeches.. were not laying out the policy the ticket would bring to the table.. but attacking Obama on a PERSONAL LEVEL... terrorist .. associates with terrorists.. those attacks didn't go away after the election.. she railed against the stimulus package as if still campaigning knowing full well the legislature could and would over ride any objections she voiced.. simply put did she not think their might be some payback.. that in itself would seem to indicate a naitivity that would exclude her from high office.. kinda the same a Clinton who committed the unforgivable sin of ending the Republican white house was subjected to 8 years of a 60 million dollar investigation.. you think that wasn't payback at the highest level..
you reap what you sow... and it's apparent shes not up to the task.. very thin skinned.. people right here on propeller would have her in tears with some of the mean spirited posts..-
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crespi5 months, 2 weeks ago
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She HATES community organizers.
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She HATES Obama.
She HATES dating-sex.
She HATES being asked questions that require real answers.
But she LOVES killing wolves from helicopters.
Sorry, NOT what the country is looking for right now...
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Will13135 months, 2 weeks ago
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didn't say that.. just stating a fact .. when you throw sh*t.. expect to get some on you and it makes you smell... did she not think if Obama won he'd forget all about her attacks.. I'm suprised that Alaska gets ANY federal money.. you are aware they get the highest amount of federal money per capita of any state...
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simonsez5 months, 2 weeks ago
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They have the fewest people with the largest area of government land.
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It is the responsibility of the VP running with the losing candidate to attack and criticize the apposing Presidential candidate. That's the way campaigns work. You know that, will.
Biden attacked Obama, Hillory attacked Obama, everybody attacked Obama in the primary. When it's over, it's over.-
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Radiofreeeuropa5 months, 2 weeks ago
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Ironically it is the remaining red states who suck more tax dollars from the public dole than any others.
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They receive far more than they contribute year after year after year...Look at what these bozo's do, and what they say is the opposite.
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cleare5 months, 2 weeks ago
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palin opened herself up to "personal attacks" the minute she ran for office the first time.
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that's why, in olden days, "ladies" did not run for public office...to spare them "personal attacks".
she's a self-described "bull-dog with lipstick" and you're boo-hooing over our arguably accurate criticisms.-
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Progressive5 months, 2 weeks ago
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I don't speak for anyone other than myself--and I've never worked for the government, but I believe Palin would like to be President and I would not like that to happen. I take no joy in that prospect whatsoever.
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In the meantime, I also make my opinions known to the powers that be.
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PapaWolf5 months, 2 weeks ago
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Keep hoping. There are no DemoCRAT governors, but there ARE DemocratIC (notice the "I" & the "C"?) governors.
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Apparently, showing ignorance of the difference between a noun & adjective seems to be a badge of honor to the ultra right..
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lfergie8125 months, 2 weeks ago
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"What do you people gain from this barrage of personal attacks on this lady. What's the joy in this for you? "
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This question is so ludicrous that it need not be answered but I will anyway. When I find a poisonous snake in my garden, I try to kill it. If I don't, it may bite me the next time.-
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Spadecaller5 months, 2 weeks ago
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Can we relocate her?
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Do we have relocation programs available for U.S. politicians yet? I know there were some in Siberia under the control of the former Soviet Union.
I heard that U.S. Lobbyists run a fine program here; and you don't even have to change your name. I think you have to live in Washington, but there are rumors out there that say you can work on your computer from home. Anyone know about this?
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AnteUp5 months, 2 weeks ago
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I will echo hyperbola in that the dumbing-down of America
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has come full cycle. The public has lost the ability - or
the desire - to separate info-tainment from hard news.
They become inspired - energized and mobilized over the
most contrived "issues" imaginable. They tune into their
favorite (most entertaining) analyst of their agenda and wait for the verdict of that particular talking head, then parrot that pronouncement as their own..... no thinking required.
Unless substance can be packaged within a media event or a snappy sound bite - they are bored and not interested.
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AnteUp5 months, 2 weeks ago
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Yup - as long as we have the appearance of a free press, what's the worry?
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A 24/7 news cycle - "More stories per hour!" - and all the other highly touted
improvements......................but if you're not getting the straight scoop - if
you are getting corporate media approved propaganda - is it really of ANY
worth to us? IMO - it's more harmful than no news at all.
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AnteUp5 months, 2 weeks ago
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True - but is that more frightening than a country that seems willing to let their
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right to free speech be taken away? H*ll - they've been GIVING it away for 8 years.
There are those who never miss something until it's gone - but that would be
WAY to late to take it back.
There wasn't a whole lot of talk about our forefathers this last weekend - but
as imperfectly as we may have been functioning for over 200 years - they really
did FIGHT to secure certain liberties for us. I tend to think that they would be
turning over in their graves to see today's recipients of those rights adopt
such an "easy come - easy go" attitude.
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reallypsst5 months, 2 weeks ago
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Palin who?, i will say it again,she brought zero to the MCcain camp and now she is trying to pass as a contender for the 2012 presidential ticket,no way can she be taken serious after this fiasco,americans don't go down without a fight,and we have to many jackazzes in our government now,so go home palin !
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Will13135 months, 2 weeks ago
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Eugene H. Robinson (born 1955) is a Pulitzer Prize-winning newspaper columnist and former assistant managing editor for The Washington Post. His columns are syndicated by The Washington Post Writers Group. Robinson is a member of the National Association of Black Journalists.
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quicksilver06025 months, 2 weeks ago
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"to a national super nova...."
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The perfect analogy for a star on her way out.
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cleare5 months, 2 weeks ago
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i find it amusing that someone who claims she isn't a "quitter", quit.
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alaskans can heave a sigh of relief; i've been feeling a little survivor's guilt over our alaskan brethren ever since she returned to mis-manage her state.
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Beau78905 months, 2 weeks ago
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Palin has already answered the questions about the frivlous ethics investigations:
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"I think on a national level your department of law there in the White House would look at some of the things that we've been charged with and automatically throw them out," she said.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individu...
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fsev415 months, 2 weeks ago
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I think we've all missed an important possibility for sarah's future.
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First Dude was a member of the Alaska secessionist party. Sarah has demonstrated that she can energize radical groups. Sarah and Todd are going to energize anew the secessionist party. When they vote to secede and establish a new country they will need a president.
Voila! The perfect president for the new country of Alaska, none other than Sarah. She will be able to fulfill her dreams and outlaw msm and contrary bloggers. Bristol will be Sec of Education, son Gargoyle (or whatever) will be Sec of the Army. Todd will hold two cabinet posts, Navy and AF sec as there airplane and fishing boat will make up the fleet. And Sarah will still be on the "national" stage.
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jaern5 months, 2 weeks ago
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I would think a one term governor would be more productive for the state not having a pesky re-election campaign getting in the way of getting real things done for the state. She didn't want to be a lame duck, instead she's just a lame-ass.
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lfergie8125 months, 2 weeks ago
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FTA: "She can most effectively serve the people of Alaska by ceasing to exercise the powers of chief executive? "
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ChefEOD5 months, 2 weeks ago
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http://tinyurl.com/kl2wh5
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"People close to Sarah Palin say national political reporters and pundits have missed the real reasons for her surprising decision to resign as Alaska governor. The national media have dismissed or downplayed her real motives, which had little to do with any plans to run for president in 2012...
...all good points, and they lead me to conclude that Ms. Palin mostly likely will not run for president -- in 2012, at least. She made many mistakes after suddenly being thrust into the national spotlight last year, but hasn't merited the sneering contempt visited upon her by national reporters. She simply was not their kind of feminist -- and they disdained the politically incorrect life choices she had made." -
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Spadecaller5 months, 2 weeks ago
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With Palin's upcoming unemployment, she will have some opportunities to devote her great talents to othe more altrusitic endeavors.
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In the name of world peace and improved Russian relations, I would pay a high premium to see a Palin, Coulter, and Michele Bachmann comedy tour staged across our northern Alaskan border.
Palin will open the gig with, "Don't let the Jones' worry ya... we know how to pillage and plunder at home- thank you very much. You betcha! You can bet your muckalucks on that!"
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