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Posted By Eagle_Eye 5 months, 3 weeks ago in Political NewsDemocrats are accusing senior CIA officials of repeatedly misleading Congress, but Republicans say the allegations are just political maneuvering to protect House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
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Eagle_Eye5 months, 3 weeks ago
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""Letters by the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee and other members of the panel say CIA Director Leon Panetta told Congress last month that senior CIA officials have concealed significant actions and misled lawmakers repeatedly since 2001.
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Exactly what actions Panetta disclosed to the House Intelligence Committee on June 24 is unclear, but committee Chairman Silvestre Reyes, D-Texas, said the CIA outright lied in one case.
"These notifications have led me to conclude that this committee has been misled, has not been provided full and complete notifications, and (in at least one case) was affirmatively lied to," Reyes wrote to Michigan Rep. Peter Hoekstra, the committee's senior Republican. A copy of his letter was obtained by The Associated Press.
Reyes said in the letter that he is considering opening a full investigation."-
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JackofallChems5 months, 3 weeks ago
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Of course the CIA lied to Congress. They're the only ones still under security restrictions that can't release documents to prove that Pelosi is lying. Blaming anyone else would make it possible that they could defend themselves and make Democrats look even more dishonest than they already do!
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(of course, Democrats are the dumb crooks in D.C. pointing out that they're almost all scumbags is like shooting fish in a barrel - not very challanging. at least Republicans who are corrupt have at least a slight chance of coming up with plausible lies...)-
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lfergie8125 months, 3 weeks ago
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There is absolutely no one more dishonest than the ones that just left office. They make Nixon look like an amateur. There is no one in the Republican party that will own up to their criminal actions either.
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"When, in 2007, the CIA contributed to a National Intelligence Estimate on Iran that Republicans viewed as insufficiently alarmist, Boehner told CNN's Wolf Blitzer: "Either I don't have confidence in what they told me several months ago or I don't have confidence in what they're telling me today."
Now since the CIA had two different stories, did Boehner say that the CIA is not telling the truth in one instance or not. Did he forget this when he attack Pelosi for saying the CIA did not brief her?
The problem here is not whether Pelosi lied, it's the Republican's attempt to take the responsibility for authorizing torture from themselves by making the claim that Pelosi knew about the torture. It still doesn't justify the use of torture by the past administration whether she knew or not because she did not have the authority to stop it. By the way, why haven't we heard from Dennis Hastert who was the house speaker in 2003? I say get back to the real issue as to whether there were criminal actions taken place in the White House and put them all in jail even if Nancy goes with them. It's time to bring all of them to justice. -
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CaptainLucid5 months, 3 weeks ago
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"They're the only ones still under security restrictions that can't release documents to prove that Pelosi is lying. "
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Bullcrap you lying piece if crap. I couldn't fit more lies in a sentance than you just did if I tried. I can't wait for the reality to be made public but Pelosi can't because unlike what some lying dip Shiite named Jackallhiswankernonstop she is still bound by secrecy laws. Here is where Obama is on your side not mine. He decided to keep some new torture reports about republicans secret and I want all the information out and my biggest problem with republican Pelosi is that she said we will not impeach the worlds biggest war criminal so he kept stealing.
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Eagle_Eye5 months, 3 weeks ago
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I agree Spade, it is a "He said, She said" merry go round
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I think it is interesting that they use the date 2001 as the beginning of the misleading start...isn't that when Bush/Cheney wanted to go to war and needed a reason...very interesting, I think it is going to get more interesting before it is over. -
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icono15 months, 3 weeks ago
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Right Spade.
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It is all one big he said, that she said, that they said, that we said, that they said, that he said, that she said. Note exactly 'dis-information' but it does have the effect of 'mudding' the water.
Also 'nuancing' is used like the political version of the truth; things are said a certain way to accomplish a predetermined goal that in reality could very well be either out right criminal or against the tenants of the Constitution.
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Goppy5 months, 3 weeks ago
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This entire issue is ridiculous.
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I can't imagine that a single American believes that the CIA doesn't lie.
Let's face facts. The CIA's boss is whoever occupies the Oval Office.
Between 2000 and 2008 ... the boss was Dick Cheney. And he used the CIA as his own Imprimatur Stamping Machine.
He would come up with the 'Evil Scenario' ... and then he stamped it ... CIA APPROVED.
The rest is history.
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Goppy5 months, 3 weeks ago
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Here you go, nostalgia.
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Here's an admission by Tenet himself that he said nothing while Bush acolytes were feeding false information.
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/tenet_comes_cl...
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Goppy5 months, 3 weeks ago
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This is from a CNN story on the topic.
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http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0307/11/se....
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"He's admitted that he [Tenet] made a mistake in not pushing harder to get the lie or the gross inaccuracy out of the speech. And that may be a firing offense. The question is, who was pushing to get the lie into the speech? And that's what is going to need to be investigated."
You may not WANT to believe it ... but I'm sure you are proud of them when they DO lie.
If you are feigned disappointment at the CIA lying ... you wouldn't be a Modern Republican.
Modern Republicans support ANYTHING that the military, CIA, FBI, and Police do. I've seen it my entire life.
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It's genetic.
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Goppy5 months, 3 weeks ago
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Sorry Jerry ... but what you are ignoring is the actual ... QUOTED ... admission from Tenet ... that he stood by ... and let Bush use false info to make a case for war.
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And for the record ... I don't hate ANYONE ... not even returning members like you.
It is true that I have no love for MODERN .... RE-INVENTED Republicans ... for turning their backs on Traditional American Values and Traditional CONSERVATIVE Values.
It's obvious that you prefer CHAMPIONISM ... where you have undying allegiance to a brand ... in spite of the fundamental Moral Vacancy of that brand.
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jordan115 months, 3 weeks ago
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So I'm thinking about what constitutes "national security" and why. Got these secret committees going to see if the CIA lied. Not releasing documents. Not releasing testimony. What would happen to our national security if it came out that the CIA illegally tortured, or the books were cooked to say torture was legal? The world would know we did bad things? The way I figure it, if we did bad things the world already knows, at least in the areas where the bad things were done. So who then would the truth be hidden from? The world? Nope. American citizens? hmmmm. What would it harm our national security for American citizens to learn the truth, if indeed there is a truth we don't know about?
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Our government is too secretive, and Americans are fools to allow it. Americans should have been furious at the pardons over the Iran/Contra affair, which stopped investigations. The world knows, and we don't. -
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cleare5 months, 3 weeks ago
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"I was just using your terminology."
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this is becoming your litany. sounds a little like "i was just following orders" or "i was just doing what i was told" or "i was just following the other guy...over the cliff, throwing punches, lying to protect our azzes".
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coppolarco25 months, 3 weeks ago
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This back and forth...and now what to me is all Political..is outrageous that an agency such as the CIA which goal is to protect every American Citizen Lied is as I said outrageous...How could anyone now working there (CIA) continue in all honesty when they are under this kind of attack and allegation? I would resign ..something like a 'quitter' all you libs?...Just one more item on the list of where this country is headed based on this President and all powerful Congress.
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tthackie5 months, 3 weeks ago
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Dear Goppy (Spelling)
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I believe you're wrong, sorry. The C.I.A. runs around this world completed unregulated. They are a separate entity, unconnected to anyboy, even it seems to themselves. This information scares me. How about you? -
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antibrainwasher5 months, 3 weeks ago
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Cheney was conducting a secret assissination regime, answerable to noone. Does anyone give a crap about that? Amazing why this hasn't been exposed by the arsemonkeys on the fascist daily, Murdock tabloid noise. Oh...that's right....its all about making the rich richer, to protect the sanctity of the global super rich in their gulf streams, so faux noise wouldn't say a derned thing, since Murdock is a member.
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The cia is just the secret army within an army to protect the industrial military complex financial empire and big oil. There is no country to protect, the american public is just an abstract entity, there are thousands of seperate billion dollar industries in this country, that is what matters.
Iraq just handed the production of oil to american and chinese industry. Only 36,000 dead and injured americans, and 500,000 Iraqi's and counting, what a bargin. How many did cheney murder for profit pesonally, only the CIA knows. -
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mrlecher5 months, 3 weeks ago
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Seems to be the typical Repuglican mistake/outright lie in the headline here... The Democrats are not the ones saying the CIA lied to Congress...the head of the CIA said that.
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But hey, what do Repuglicans and their sheep need with facts. They have their lies to repeat and repeat and repeat and repeat... -
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