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Posted By btatman22 4 months, 1 week ago in Political OpinionHere is a lovely piece of fan mail from an inclusive liberal named Theresa. We are not mentioning Theresa’s last name, out of respect for her freedom of speech, and we don’t want any reprisals against Theresa for sharing her views, as misguided as they are. This is the type of “free speech” that liberals really believe in. If anything, Theresa only solidifies the point behind our video entitled “Inside the Liberal Mind”. Without further ado, we present a liberal’s view on free speech.
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rbiii4 months, 1 week ago
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Beau78904 months, 1 week ago
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I'm not defending the manner in which Theresa expressed herself.
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That said, nowhere does she argue that you shouldn't be able to put your propaganda on YouTube or Propeller. Nowhere does she appear to want to limit free speech, as this blog post says. -
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jovial4 months, 1 week ago
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That was one so called "liberal socialist taking btatman to task". If you really want to see hate then check out this submission by scott4261.
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http://www.propeller.com/story/2009/05/08/media-ma...
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tadair9194 months, 1 week ago
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the profound irony, of course, is that their failure to differentiate among different people is actually very similar to the root problem with bigotry and racism in the first place.
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there are a few here that spew the same hate that they accuse others of. and i have a few ideas of who could have written this. -
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willottica4 months, 1 week ago
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Well... I don't think guessing "Tessy" would be a stretch from "Theresa"... but does she have a current pseudonym? (Come on, speculation is fun!)
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All I know is it can't be antibrainwasher, because there was no mention of "baby jesus on a jetski" or "gay jesus" or "caribu barbie". I don't believe it's possible for him to write anything without throwing in one of those terms (a side-effect of his brainwashing, I imagine).
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Klarissa4 months, 1 week ago
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Unfortunately there are many liberals who are filled with anger.
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And, anger is frustration turned inward.
When their candidate, whom they helped elect, does not carry through on the promises that the liberal believed in, it is terribly frustrating.
And also, a very unpleasant mental state to think that the belief in the candidate might have been based on wishful thinking, not on real world situations.-
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mesodude4 months, 1 week ago
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"Unfortunately there are many liberals who are filled with anger."
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--I find it hilarious that only cons are allowed to be angry. Personally, I believe in being "armed and dangerous" without the need to run out and start blowing people's heads off just because an election didn't go my way. Note that unlike cons (who have been manufacturing every reason under the sun for their spectacular losses in recent elections), we had *legitimate* reason to contest the election in 2000. But did we flip out and have teabag parties? Did any Congressional Democrats take to the floor and advocate secession or suggest that constituents rush out to buy guns? Did any Democrats in Congress advise Americans to refuse to be counted in the Census? Did they do *any* of those things, Klarissa? Exactly...So don't even TRY to claim that those on the left are somehow less stable than white supremacist teabagging cons who love guns. DON'T TRY IT. ;-(
"And also, a very unpleasant mental state to think that the belief in the candidate might have been based on wishful thinking, not on real world situations."
--ROTFLMAO...Ok, thanks. I needed that, Klarissa. Good one. By the way, don't project. Cons got screwed inside and out by Bush and Cheney and you loved every second of it (and pleased DO go and BITCH to Propeller about that phrasing, Klarissa) and if anyone is angry it's you people. You've repeatedly backed losers who, even when in power don't fulfill ANY of the promises for which you're here every day prostituting your very neocon souls. And your party is split down the middle, too. Let's not pretend that you're in a postion to preach. You absolutely aren't. ;-x -
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vor4 months, 1 week ago
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"And also, a very unpleasant mental state to think that the belief in the candidate might have been based on wishful thinking, not on real world situations."
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This from somebody who I believe would vote for Sarah Palin!
This real idiocy is that those with a brain are waiting to see the results of the stimulus. Not 6 months out but more like two years. You know, the minimum amount of time to really see how this thing is really working.
But the idea of returning back to the type of leadership that brought us this disaster is as-nine. I am not abit disillusioned with Obama. Very pleased with how he is dealing with the world. I only wonder what all of these naysayers are going to say when the economy inevitably turns around? This recession could last at least another year but the business cycle says eventually we will climb out of the trough. There is currently to much supply and not enough demand. At some point this will change. Those are the true factors that drive the economy.
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nostalgia4 months, 1 week ago
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Theresa better watch her step
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H. R. 1966
Megan Meier Cyberbullying Prevention Act
SEC. 3. CYBERBULLYING.
(a) In General- Chapter 41 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following:
`Sec. 881. Cyberbullying
`(a) Whoever transmits in interstate or foreign commerce any communication, with the intent to coerce, intimidate, harass, or cause substantial emotional distress to a person, using electronic means to support severe, repeated, and hostile behavior, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.
`(b) As used in this section--
`(1) the term `communication' means the electronic transmission, between or among points specified by the user, of information of the user's choosing, without change in the form or content of the information as sent and received; and
`(2) the term `electronic means' means any equipment dependent on electrical power to access an information service, including email, instant messaging, blogs, websites, telephones, and text messages.'.
(b) Clerical Amendment- The table of sections at the beginning of chapter 41 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following new item:
`881. Cyberbullying.'.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.196...
Big Brother may soon be watching-
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smithichie4 months, 1 week ago
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While I agree the mail is on the emotional side, (and for all we know, fictional side) I see no attempt to coerce, intimidate, harass or cause emotional distress. The mail didn't attempt to coerce btatman into stopping his blogs, nor intimidate him into stopping. For harassment, I would imagine a large number of such mailings would have to be received and as for the emotional distress, Btatman's reasoned response shows no evidence of being distressed.
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Jaydee404 months, 1 week ago
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"a) Whoever transmits in interstate or foreign commerce any communication, with the intent to coerce, intimidate, harass, or cause substantial emotional distress to a person, using electronic means to support severe, repeated, and hostile behavior, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both."
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I guess Fox news and CNN along with every other new channel are breaking the law. When is their trial?
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sinophil494 months, 1 week ago
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Wolfie - "I think Teresa proved the entire point of the video regrading the liberal mind."
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Although the post from Theresa is completely obnoxious and inappropriate, I fail to see how it characterizes "the liberal mind."
How about the rabid Republican in one of McCain's campaign rallies that shouted out about shooting Obama and made McCain embarrassed. He tried to defuse the hatred he himself generated by saying that Obama was indeed a good American.
How about the secretiveness, paranoia, lying, exclusivity, bigotry, and persecution perpetrated by notable conservatives like Joe McCarthy, J Edgar Hoover, Spiro Agnew, Richard Nixon, George Wallace, Strom Thurmond, Jesse Helms, Tom DeLay, Dennis Hastert, David Dukes, Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, George W Bush?
What would you say about the "liberal mind" set of notables like Abraham Lincoln, Franklin Roosevelt, Earl Warren, Adlai Stevenson, Harry Truman, Hubert Humphrey, John Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Lyndon Johnson, Robert Kennedy, and even William Clinton.
Clinton was HATED by the conservatives, but he personally never espoused hatred nor tried to suppress his political opponents.
What's more, the philosophical foundation of our country is based on liberalism. The Mayflower pilgrims were escaping religious intolerance and persecution. We rebelled against the rule of King George. We are the international champions of women's rights and women's vote, protection from child labor, establishment of democracy, civil rights, racial equality and abolishment of slavery, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, minimum wage, social security, anti-monopoly laws, occupational safety, food safety, environmental safety, seat belt laws, smog laws, etc.
Every one of these ideas was considered too radical for its time or too damaging to the previous status quo or anti-business. Each of these ideas was fought against by the prevailing political, special interest, or business interests of the time.
Yet today we could not conceive of a society without all of these laws and protections in place. Even you conservatives. Liberalism is our entire way of life.
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toph19734 months, 1 week ago
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Well we know what yoyur mind is full of wolf. Racism, Bigotry and intolerance. All we need to know about your mental state is by your post. Painting all liberals like that is foolish. I wouldn't expect anything else from you though.
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david_nwpa4 months, 1 week ago
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Most liberals do not espouse such hatred or dare I say, show it, unless provoked. It would not be beneath the cons on Propeller to push their free speech and their views down the throats of more moderate and liberal folks here. Seems to me this article, and the video that preceded it are little more than a way to garner votes for a pseudo-article. Nice try, btatman, but not too many libs are falling for your bait.
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dunkirk4 months, 1 week ago
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This seems to be the latest tactic of the right. When someone criticizes what they say they claim its hate speech or ranting. They dont address any of the charges made and theresa does attack what was presented, please note the exact same thing they accuse theresa of doing is exhibited by the writer, he writes off her post as hate mail and doesnt bother to identify how she is wrong, its assumed she is wrong. THis seems to be highlighted best by Palin and her everyone is against me, The poor righties are in such a tizzy they dont bother to defend what they write they seem to be unable to do that.
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pokydoke4 months, 1 week ago
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There are wing nuts on both sides of the aisle. There are some very nasty conservatives who post here on propeller. I enjoy the spirited give and take for the most part and I don't even mind being called a few names now and then. I do not lie or try to mislead. I make every effort to try and justify my point of view and I do try and not get too nasty. I am not hate filled and I am not a wingnut. I am a progressive liberal, always have been and always will be and I will not apologize for my views.If you find that objectionable then you need to look no further than the mirror if you want to find someone who is against free speech.
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mesodude4 months, 1 week ago
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I don't get it. Is there supposed to be some kind of lesson in this? Why do you cons think you're any less hateful than anyone else? Because your hateful parents taught you that if you cloak your hateful right wing rhetoric in terms like "Democrat Congress" and "liberal socialist" that this makes you morally superior to people who express their hatred using four-letter words? You don't think your hatred for those different from you comes through loud and clear simply because you tell yourself that you're better (for not using profanity)? Well, all I can say to that is GMAFB.
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--Cons, listen up...You're absolutely out of your minds in your grief over having lost in November and, ever since, you've been running around shooting people to death and publicly screwing around on your spouses with wild abandon. No one is fooled by your transparent attempts to shift the focus off of your elected officials' nutty,slvtty behavior and the crazy antics of unstable and violent teabaggers (yes, I said it--TEABAGGERS--get over yourselves). You're MURDERING people in museums and churches, conjobs, and now you're here sobbing in pain because the big bad liberals don't play by *your* rules? Get serious, cons.-
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NoWayMan4 months, 1 week ago
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well, yeah. that was one nasty letter. angry. over the top. mean.
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its like listening to a segment, any segment, of the rush limbaugh show, which you cons pay him to do.
so don't go crying foul when a lib gets nasty. nasty is the cons' game. has been for quite awhile now. you have people on the radio doing it. you even have an entire TV channel devoted to misinformation, dirty tricks and lies all dressed up as if its news.
there's a reason why the GOP has a department of dirty tricks and people like Karl Rove in its ranks.
so sack up and quit your crying.
but whats hilarous is the repsponse of Brett Tatman, editor of frechconservative.com (btatman22 on propeller, whose obviously pushing his own blog).
His reply?
"Just to clear up your accusation of me being a hater, etc., I am not. I simply tell people the truth."
now THATS funny.
btatman, do you actually believe that nonsense? you simply tell people the truth?
wow.
thats denial wrapped up in delusion.
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not2needy4 months, 1 week ago
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I got an email from Tessylo and she asked me to let you all know that email was indeed from her. At least she doesn't do what she does in stealth! She's honest, and for her honesty she was banned, unlike you dishonest, whiny, crazy loon wingnuts who have the morals of a gutter snipe and wallow in a cesspool of dog doo and lies!
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slate4 months, 1 week ago
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Wow Needy,,,,,,,,,, that was more than a bit nasty,,,,, of course you think it's different since you did it.
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(I hate the way Propeller allows you all to do the mean spirited deceitful things you all do, post the hate fill blog op-eds you post without consequence, call liberals every name imaginable and continuously come back after being banned without banning you again, but patrol religiously to insure that no banned Liberal can ever come back.)
Have you read any Palin Threads of late? Do you hate that sort of thing as well?
Have you seen any name calling on the left? Nahh you only see from one side. You see one side as hate and the other as truth.
Maybe the right just gets a leg up because we are a minority here and have minority rights here?
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icono14 months, 1 week ago
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Well n2n, if so, good for tessy.
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I miss her observations, for the following is absolutely wonderful; fta
"The divisiveness - you and Karl Rove and people like you belong beneath hell - hell is not good enough for hateful bastards like you."
I have to assume that hell, if it exists, is according to the poster, only inhabited by non-divisive 'loving bastards'. If so, then that would mean that the Devil is definitely mellowing out in this day and age of secular enlightenment and liberal permissiveness.
(Maybe he, the Devil, went to anger management classes and has turned a corner in his search for a 'kinder and gentler' Prince of Darkness.) -
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jakesguile4 months, 1 week ago
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There's actually a Dumbocrat party? I thought that was just a joke... Is there also a Disney Snakes For the Enslavement of Humanity Through Hypnosis party as well? How about a Princess party?
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SURELY there's a party founded upon Jim Crow if there's one founded upon Dumbo!
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icono14 months, 1 week ago
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Well have to go now and talk to some of my Dimocrat friends for they are truly pizzed about the negative and angry talk of a Porkulus2 bill or the sequel to Stumbulus1, Stumbulus2, coming form some elements of the 'liberal inside' and of course those average tax paying citizens that elects the 'liberal insiders' to office.
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I think it is time to have a 'tea party' for them....don't cha' know. -
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CRYMTYPHON4 months, 1 week ago
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I want to thank Pc25,
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for taking this courageous stand against hatred in politics.
It will be hard for him;
his own side will smile as he condemns the left;
- but they will turn on him like surprised beasts when he applies his moral authority to them .
He will be called traitor;
He will be called hypocrite;
He will stand alone against both sides;
unless we help him in this crusade .
Let everyone here solemnly vow that we will aid Pc25
in ending hate rants.
Pc25 will be our leader restoring dignity, truth,
and worth to the content of political discussion.
And after the battle, the blood,
the pain and the shouting and the trumpets
- a new day.-
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CRYMTYPHON4 months, 1 week ago
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We the propeller people,
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who propped this piece,
promise the premise
to preserve the peace;
- or forevermore wear the label of troll .
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No surrender,
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we allow no insults,
justify no hate-rants,
tolerate no personal reference.
Honor and truth will be our guides
in the words we speak,
in the silence we keep.
You can sign too:
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frctm54 months, 1 week ago
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Anyone can selectively find offensive or inflammatory rhetoric by people of any political persuasion. Now are you going to claim that people on the right don't use such language or write equally offensive letters? This letter proves nothing and if you are making the claim that all liberals are like this, than that just means you aren't very objective or a very good critical thinker. Timothy McVeigh was right wing and was the biggest domestic terrorist before 9/11. Therefore this must be typical of the right wing mind that they want to blow up government buildings. This is the same level of logic employed in this post. Keep the laughs coming.
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