Madsen:‘Whistle blown on secret 9/11 unit’ »
Posted By jovial 4 months ago in Political News
The US government has allegedly set up a special security wing with the sole task of distancing Washington from any involvement in the 9/11 terrorist attacks.
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jovial4 months ago
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It's rumored that Panetta knows that the CIA has been withholding crucial evidence to Congress. There is believed to be a special CIA wing that was put in place to distance it's activities from the Whitehouse. The question is who started this unit, what is their purpose, and did the former Whitehouse officials know about it?
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Endoscopy4 months ago
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I like this site. It tells the truth . The government did it.
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http://www.serendipity.li/wot/911_a_hoax.htm
I'll buy your story if you buy mine. LOL
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jovial4 months ago
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In 1973, CIA director Richard Helms deceived the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, refusing to acknowledge the role of the CIA in overthrowing the elected government in Chile. Helms falsely testified that the CIA had not passed money to the opposition movement in Chile, and a grand jury was called to see if Helms should be indicted for perjury.
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In 1977, the Justice Department brought a lesser charge against Helms, who pleaded nolo contendere; he was fined $2,000 and given a suspended two-year prison sentence. Helms went from the courthouse to the CIA where he was given a hero's welcome and a gift of $2,000 to cover the fine. It was one of the saddest experiences in my 24 years at CIA.
In the new Ford administration, Secretary of State Kissinger, Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld, and White House chief of staff Cheney orchestrated phony intelligence for the Congress in order to get an endorsement for covert arms shipments to anti-government forces in Angola.
The CIA lied to Senator Dick Clark, the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, who was a critic of the Agency's illegal collaborations with the government of South Africa against Angola and Mozambique. Agency briefers exaggerated the classification of their materials so that Senate and House members could not publicize this information. Agency shields of secrecy and falsehood were extremely effective. -
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jovial4 months ago
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In the 1980s, CIA director William Casey and his deputy, Bob Gates, consistently lied to the congressional oversight committees about their knowledge of Iran-contra. Senator Daniel Moynihan (D-NY) believed that Casey and Gates were running a disinformation campaign against the Senate intelligence committee. Casey even managed to alienate Senator Barry Goldwater (R-AZ), a pro-intelligence, conservative senator who typically walked through barbed wire for the CIA.
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Gates' lies on Iran-contra led to the Senate intelligence committee's unwillingness to vote him out of the committee in 1985, when he was nominated to be CIA director by President Ronald Reagan. Gates was nominated again in 1991 and this time he was confirmed, but not before the hearings produced rhyme and verse on Gates' tailoring of intelligence to fit the biases of Bill Casey.
Throughout the 1980s and the early 1990s, Aldrich Ames performed as the most destructive traitor in the history of the CIA, but CIA directors Gates, William Webster, and Jim Woolsey failed to inform the congressional oversight committees of the serious counter-intelligence problems that had been created. -
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jovial4 months ago
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In the late 1980s, the CIA concealed from the Congress that Saddam Hussein was diverting U.S. farm credits through an Atlanta bank to pay for nuclear technology and sophisticated weapons. The chairman of the Senate and House intelligence committees, Senator Dennis DeConcini (D-AZ) and Representative Dan Glickman (D-KS) respectively, were furious with the deception tactics of CIA briefers.
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The greatest CIA disinformation campaign in the congress took place in 2002-2003, when CIA director George Tenet and his deputy, John McLaughlin, consistently lied about Iraqi training for al Qaeda members on chemical and biological weapons as well as the existence of mobile labs to manufacture such weapons.
Several days before the congressional vote on the authorization to use force, CIA senior analyst Paul Pillar delivered an unclassified memorandum to the Hill with a series of false charges about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. Pillar's memorandum and a national intelligence estimate on the same subject were also used to develop Secretary of State Colin Powell's address to the United Nations in February 2003. -
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jovial4 months ago
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More recently, Rep. Peter Hoekstra (R-MI), the ranking minority member of the House intelligence committee, documented the dissembling of the CIA to cover-up the Agency's involvement in a drug interdiction program in Peru that led to the loss of innocent lives. Hoekstra accused CIA director Tenet with misleading the Congress.
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The CIA still has not addressed the serious procedural and institutional problems that were exposed in a report from the Office of the Inspector General on the Peru program, which concluded that Agency officials deliberately misled Congress, the White House, and the Justice Department.
In closing, Panetta emphasized that it was the CIA's task to "tell it like it is, even if that's not what people always want to hear. Keep it up. Our national security depends on it."
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http://www.pubrecord.org/commentary/916-the-cias-h...
It seems the CIA has been lying to Congress for quite some time. So until they start coming clean with Congress, I don't trust them and I lend more credence to what these whistleblowers are saying.
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jordan114 months ago
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Hard to get any facts when all information within the government is being couched under "national security." And when information comes from a whistle blower who has had access to areas that could have given him this knowledge, I think it's a good idea to bring the possibility into the open.
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jovial4 months ago
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Rumors is all we have now. I think there is a lot we don't know about what's really being done in our government. Just saying that we don't want to hear it unless it becomes fact deters our overall vigilance on government activities.
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Will13134 months ago
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Well Jovial.. .. there might be something to that....
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Netscape / Propeller had / has a member Torrent29.. .. every time a "truther" story would come up.. his comments would number over a 100.. he almost never commented on anything else.. and now the truther movement has slowed.. he doesn't post at all... but as soon as a story of that nature came up.. he'd be one of the first posters..
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fiftynine4 months ago
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Nothing of this nature would surprise me...I,like Spade and many others,want the truth..period. We deserve the truth.
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Will1313..."NO SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS at or near the Pentagon.."
They selectively released some footage..But none of the actual aircraft (or whatever it was) that hit the pentagon..That in a city that has security cameras everywhere.-
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Will13134 months ago
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always seemed funny to me. that the FBI confiscated all tapes within minutes after it happened.. and just showing anything more would stop all the truthers in their tracks or add fuel to the fire...
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I AM NOT A TRUTHER.. I BELIEVE MUSLIMS HIJACKED AIRPLANES AND FLEW THEM INTO BUILDINGS..
what I want to know and think everyone has a right to know is where the system broke down... they quickly put all the pieces together AFTER THE FACT..all the parts were know.. why could they not connect the dots BEFORE...
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jovial4 months ago
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Well a storm is brewing. The Obama whitehouse is planning to veto any attempt to change the current policies. Read about it here in this link...
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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/...
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jovial4 months ago
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The CIA destroyed 92 videotapes documenting the harsh interrogations of two Qaeda suspects in C.I.A. detention. Was Congress informed?
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On April 20, 2001, a Peruvian military jet under the supervision of CIA agents mistakenly identified a missionary plane for drug runners. And with the Bowers family aboard, the Peruvians shot down the aircraft, killing Roni Bowers and her 7-month-old daughter, Charity. Pilot Kevin Donaldson was shot in both legs, and was able to make a miraculous landing on the Amazon with his plane on fire.
In August 2001, a joint U.S.-Peruvian investigation blamed poor communications and shortcuts in procedures.
Several months later, a Senate investigation found that the CIA failed to properly oversee the anti-drug operation in Peru. In the wake of that Senate investigation, the Department of Justice opened up a secret inquiry into whether CIA agents involved lied to Congress in order to cover up details of what went wrong in the murderous affair.
In July of 2002, the Bush administration paid $8 million to survivors.
In 2005, the investigation was dropped by the Justice Department. No charges were ever filed, and all involved are still employed by the CIA. They’re not talking, and neither is the Department of Justice.
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AnteUp4 months ago
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From the Online Journal and more from Madsen about the Q group:
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http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_48...
Check out the fate of poor Ken Ford, Jr. in the article
- I'll follow this with another link to the trial coverage.
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AnteUp4 months ago
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More on the Ken Ford, Jr. trial......this poor guy!
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http://tinyurl.com/nnhkqk
Is there any way that you could drive your pick-up truck up to a TOP SECRET bldg. and cart off boxes marked "Classified"?-
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jovial4 months ago
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I couldn't get your link to work that time. Error 404 not found.
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But I did find this..
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?r...
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rightfromwrong4 months ago
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most people with any intelligence know that is was an inside job.
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The USA knew that attack was going to happen and they had to have it spectacular so they had the building wired. That is why it cascade in a free fall and they had to wire the basement so that it would fall further into the ground. All debris was taken to a secret location and destroyed. Had it been analyzed it would have shown residue of other incendiary material which would have definitely meant an inside job.
Any honest President would have wanted to get to the bottom of it but we all know the crookedness of the Bush/Cheney yrs.
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rightfromwrong4 months ago
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most people with any intelligence know that is was an inside job.
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The USA knew that attack was going to happen and they had to have it spectacular so they had the building wired. That is why it cascaded in a free fall and they had to wire the basement so that it would fall further into the ground. All debris was taken to a secret location and destroyed. Had it been analyzed it would have shown residue of other incendiary material which would have definitely meant an inside job.
Any honest President would have wanted to get to the bottom of it but we all know the crookedness of the Bush/Cheney yrs.
The agenda was in place. There were no WMD ... it was all about greed and oil!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!-
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rightfromwrong4 months ago
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the USA is a sham of a nation. They support dictatorships when it suits them and they undermine any nation which offers people an alternative agenda of disaster capitalism of more money flowing up to the already rich at the expense of the common person.
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The USA is largest exporter of terrorism in the world
Read Naomi Klein's "shock doctrine"
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Hhussk4 months ago
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most people with any intelligence know that is was an inside job.
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Most people saw actual footage of an airplane striking the towers. As well, we all heard eyewitness accounts. Third, we all saw reports of plane wreckage and studies which substantiated the terrorist event.
It is smart to question things. It is not smart to base your theory off of rumours. As a matter of fact, that is the quintessential act of stupidity. -
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cloud154 months ago
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I also heard the aliens secretly disguised their UFOs as airplanes and carried out the attacks. The plane that went down over pennsylvania was actually a UFO that we have recovered and are now conducting experiments on. In about 60 years these aliens will return to destroy all humans. When they do this, on independence the human race will fight back. Then Will Smith Jr. and Jeff Goldblum Jr. will fly the alien craft we recovered on 9/11 into space and destroy the alien's mothership with a computer virus.
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