It's not just Afghanistan: it's everywhere from Azerbaijan to Uzbekistan. »
Posted By dissent 4 months, 2 weeks ago in NewsCentral Asia has oil and gas.
And heroin.
Journalist Simon Reeve said of his trip to the Stans, such as Uzbekistan:
"Most people I met longed for a return to the financial security of Communism...
"Unemployment is now rampant in Central Asia.
"Poverty, censorship and government repression are the norm."
Pentagon And NATO are fanning out from Afghanistan into Central Asia and the states of the Caspian Sea.
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we live in a culture of war.
let's make it a culture of peace.
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dissent4 months, 2 weeks ago
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Craig Murray, the British Ambassador to Uzbekistan from 2002 to 2004, has written about how Islam Karimov, President of Uzbekistan, boils people alive.
boiling people alive, huh?.... so, is this comparable to beheadings and saddam's rape rooms........ ya think?
U.S. tells Uzbekistan it wants better ties
Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:26am EDT
http://www.reuters.com/article/featuredCrisis/idUS...
or maybe since we want to get all pally with them and we're not going to get that oil if we don't it's probably just hot tub, eh.... waterboarding..... ya think? :|
incidentally, our falling out wasn't over boiling people alive but this (same link)....
The United States and other Western countries condemned Uzbekistan in 2005 after its troops fired on protesters in the town of Andizhan, killing hundreds of people, according to witnesses.
the stench of hypocrisy never seems to end, huh?-
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dissent4 months, 2 weeks ago
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something so many of the petty partisan players that proliferate propeller (apologies for the excessive alliteration), fail to realize, is that presidents are little more than puppets, mouthpieces, car salesmen on the showroom floor following their scripted sales pitches. obama is no different. and yes, he supports this. so did bush. they pretty much follow same script, but their difference lies in their technique and in their delivery..... like all salesmen. obama is the smooth-talking soft sell pretending to be everybody's best bud and that he really cares about your dying grandmother, while bush was more of the guy you thought you might want to have a beer with until you saw he was the foot-in-the-door pushy snake oil kind (with the scary sales manager cheney in the backroom egging him on to close the deal). if you think they aren't or weren't playing their roles according to the "car retail franchise policy" (food for thought there) then you give them too much credit and assume they have much more power than they do. trying thinking bigger picture and not just dems/cons. that's the distraction you're expected to be preoccupied with so you never see the ball in play.
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AnteUp4 months, 2 weeks ago
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A few excerpts from "Crossing the Rubicon" that put the lie to
the statements being made by our government about how WE are
trying to irradicate Afghanistan's drug trade.
1)What happened in 2001? The Taliban banned opium production in the late summer of 2000 and destroyed almost all the opium that still remained planted; this was completed and confirmed in January of 2001. Acording to the Independent, "The area of land given over to growing opium poppies in 2001 fell by 91 percent
compared with the year before, according to the UN Drug Control Programme's (UNDCP)annual survey of Afghanistan. Production of fresh opium, the raw material for heroin, went down by an unprecedented 94 percent, from 3,276 tonnes to 185 tonnes".
We completed our invasion of Afghanistan in November 2001 in the middle of the opium planting season.
2) Among the first things the US forces and CIA did was to liberate a number of known opium warlords who, they said, would assist US forces. Opium farmers rejoiced and, amidst reports that they were being encouraged to do so, began planting massive opium crops. In December, former CIA asset and opium warlord
Ayub Afridi was released from prison and recruited by the CIA to unify local leaders against the Taliban.
When the harvest of June 2002 came, Afghanistan had again become the world's largest producer of the opium poppy and the world's largest heroin supplier. From a paltry 180 tons under the Taliban in 2001, according to the UN, the estimated 2002 harvest, under CIA protection, was close to 3,700 tons. By March of 2003, World Bank President James Wolfensohn was reporting record levels of opium production and that drugs were a bigger earner for Afghanistan than foreign aid.
The 2003 crop set new records, coming in at almost 4,000 tons.And experts warned that the June, 2004 harvest might be 50 percent larger than that of 2003. In November of 2003, Reuters reported that current Afghan opium cultivation was 36 times higher than under the last year of Taliban rule.
From excerpt #2: "experts warned"
Obviously these experts were not getting with the program if they were WARNING. Looks like everyone else was quite happy with the increased - Lo! record breaking - drug trade. I heard
Admiral Mike Mullen last week talking about our imperative to
stop the Afghan drug trade.......made me think of these passages
that I have entered here. I do wonder where the CIA launders
all those profits? In the banks that are too big to fail?
Gee - if we REALLY curtailed the drug trade would we be in even WORSE shape economically?
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Natureboy4 months, 2 weeks ago
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We would be wise to view the "drug war" abroad with a jaundiced eye.
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The CIA has historically been chin-deep in the drug trade - it goes a long way towards financing their black ops.
That crack cocaine fueling the despair and violence in the inner city - don't be surprised if it had CIA fingerprints on it somewhere between South America and South Central. -
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