The Man Who Knew Cheney's Secret - Page 1 - The Daily Beast »
Posted By AnteUp 4 months, 2 weeks ago in News
The New Yorker's Seymour Hersh was mocked in March when he referred to Dick Cheney's secret squad of CIA assassins. Now, he talks to The Daily Beast about the next shoe to drop.
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deathray4 months, 2 weeks ago
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if sy hersh is to be believed, and he's usually a credible source, i suspect that the inevitable will happen, and a congressional investigation will convene.
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mr. cheney is likely to be lawyering up pretty soon...notice, not a peep after all the sturm and drang of just a few weeks ago... -
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DarkWizard4 months, 2 weeks ago
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FTA - "All told, more than 3,000 suspected terrorists have been arrested in many countries. And many others have met a different fate. Let's put it this way: They are no longer a problem to the United States and our friends and allies."
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Obviously, eliminating terrorist threats (or what we perceive as terrorism) to the U.S. and her allies should be considered a good thing. Unfortunately, the methodology of carrying out such operations, which circumvent proper channels and authorities, endangers our Democracy; our very foundation...The Constitution. -
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rbiii4 months, 2 weeks ago
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I'm still mocking his wacko ass.
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1) The program at the CIA was talked about in 2001. Hersh's BS story is about a military run operation.
2) It never became operational.
Nice try, though. Hersh hasn't come close to being right in years.-
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cowboygrandpa4 months, 2 weeks ago
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rbiii:
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Yeah you probably still believe in the tooth fairy, and that Bush and Cheney were great Americans.
Get a clue this not about politics.
It is about a leader and his underlings who have committed crimes that left unchecked will be used by future leaders to completely undermine America !!!
Would you want Obama and Biden to have hit squads for those they feel are terrorists ???
I don't !!!!
So drop the rhetoric and see what scares rational people. The abuse and misuse of powers not even given to individuals in this government !!
Right wing/left wing, unchecked power is a destructive force that corrodes and eats away at the laws and their intent and purposes.
But hey, cheer for your side who is no longer in power. Then weep bitter tears when the side you fear uses the same tactics to enable their evil plans.
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vor4 months, 2 weeks ago
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And El Baradei and Ritter were lying about no WMD in Iraq, weren't they? Reagan knew nothing about Iran-Contra. And Clinton never tried to hit OBL either?
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Someday perhaps the truth will come out about exactly what Cheney was doing. Although I believe he is the most skilled of coverup artists. He had some 40 years to learn how not to leave a trail. What is inevitably true is the influence he had on Bush and how that influence led to their inevitable fall from grace. The very idea there that is a segment of the population who still gives this wackjob credence sickens me to no end. But of course these people also give credence to the likes of Limbaugh, Beck, O'Reilly, Hannity, Malkin, Coulter, Schafly, and their ilk. -
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AnteUp4 months, 2 weeks ago
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Give me a break! It NEVER became operational in EIGHT years?
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We are fighting an enemy SO dangerous that our government feels it is
necessary to spy on US - to sanctify TORTURE and unlimited detention
without charges, etc. Yet even so, they cannot form an international hit
squad even WITH funding (and guaranteed it was more than a million!)
and get rolling......................make me laugh!
Take my word for it - it may not have been FULLY operational - but I
have no doubt they have been ACTIVE for a long time. -
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AnteUp4 months, 2 weeks ago
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Re: Your rant that - "Hersh's BS story is about a military run operation"
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Per the following excerpts Hersh's piece "Preparing the Battlefield" from 2008 - which IS linked in the Daily Beast article:
"The covert operations set forth in the Finding essentially run parallel to those of a secret military task force, now operating in Iran, that is under the control of JSOC. Under the Bush Administration’s interpretation of the law, clandestine military activities, unlike covert C.I.A. operations, do not need to be depicted in a Finding, because the President has a constitutional right to command combat forces in the field without congressional interference. But the borders between operations are not always clear: in Iran, C.I.A. agents and regional assets have the language skills and the local knowledge to make contacts for the JSOC operatives, and have been working with them to direct personnel, matériel, and money into Iran from an obscure base in western Afghanistan. As a result, Congress has been given only a partial view of how the money it authorized may be used.
JSOC - CIA - military.............by design the Bush administration has blurred the chain
of accountability. Make it clear - they had an agenda that could not flourish in our Democracy
- but they were going to carry it out come H*ll or high water AND they did not want to be
accountable if caught. Go ahead - respect and admire them for their tenacity and their
unprecedented deviousness if you want to - but did you really WANT to vote for a
dictator? Where was THAT in the platform?
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cowboygrandpa4 months, 2 weeks ago
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"Dick Cheney ran a secret hit squad that he kept hidden from congressional oversight.
"Congress has no oversight of it. It’s an executive assassination ring essentially, and it’s been going on and on and on," Hersh said at the time. He added: "Under President Bush’s authority, they’ve been going into countries, not talking to the ambassador or the CIA station chief, and finding people on a list and executing them and leaving. That’s been going on, in the name of all of us."
“I said what I said, they can always say what they say,” Hersh told The Daily Beast. “The last time they said the government doesn’t torture, this time it’s the government doesn’t assassinate.”
Some observers accused him of rumor-mongering and a top former military official threw cold water on the story, but with the recent news that the CIA allegedly kept Congress in the dark on a covert program, Hersh's words suddenly look more and more prescient. Yesterday, The New York Times reported the hidden program in question was a death squad authorized by Dick Cheney without congressional approval.
Now, there are key differences between Hersh's reporting and the Times' latest piece. Hersh suggested that the assassination ring was conducted out of the Joint Special Operations Command rather than the CIA. Moreover, according to Hersh's sources, the program was operational, leaving a trail of bodies, while the Times cited officials saying that the CIA hit squad never actually carried out a mission. The Times and Hersh could conceivably be reporting two distinct squads."
What a surprise. Hahahahahahaaaaa !!!! Cheney/Bush two idiots destined to be seen as bigger threats to America than the terrorists they conjured up to inflict their scam.
Hard for citizens of other countries not hate and fear us when we have the incompetent duo still walking around free. While their murderous reign as the pretenders of moral and God fearing leaders of the free world crumbles all around them.
False christians who are in league with the devil. Forgive them ?? Sure, but I want them to answer for what they did to the world and us. They need to be tried for treason and murder
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AnteUp4 months, 2 weeks ago
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Rumsfeld had the same distain for the Democratic process
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as Cheney. Being accountable to the public was unthinkable
and to Congress was out of the question. These guys resented
the Watergate investigation and felt even more violated by
the Iran/Contra investigations. That is why - from day one -
there was a push,at all levels of their reign, to act as if
the Unitary Executive was accepted. Only nine months into
their first term it was imperative for the security of the
nation for Bush to wield unlimited executive power.
Rumsfeld had his own little special operations squads.
As I recall he butted heads with the Pentagon about the
Department of Defense usurping areas that had previously been under their jurisdiction.
I shudder to think how these guys may have honed their CYA
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AnteUp4 months, 2 weeks ago
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Who cares?
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When that Iranian passenger jet crashed killing all 168 (?) people aboard -
I don't want to wonder.............................Did we do that?
Do you place NO value on our ability to TRUST our own government?
Chavez has claimed we tried to get him - Bush deliberately encouraged
secession of the elites in Bolivia, if operations such as those described
were to become accepted - ONE man could be in charge of a global
death squad. Only a select few would be privy to the deeds carried out
under the Stars and Stripes. Does that sound like America to you?
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Charlson4 months, 2 weeks ago
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What I really dislike of the VP is his cowardice. This past week, he's been hiding behind his daughter's skirt letting her plead his innocence (as if she is impartial).
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This man is a chicken hawk, never having served in a war himself but ready to send American soldiers into harm's way to enrich his corporate pals in Haliburton after receiving a $20 million severance before assuming the VP position in 2000.-
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AnteUp4 months, 2 weeks ago
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This interview with Mika Brezinski and Liz Cheney from Tuesday's Morning Joe Show
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is worth analysis:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789/#31906042
Of course she cannot confirm or deny because her father does not discuss classified
operations BUT - at the same time that she blames Dems for being too weak to keep
the U.S. safe - only THEY, the Republicans had the guts and foresight to do that.
But go past all that drivel to the part where she tries to share the BLAME (not the kudos for our safe-keeping) when she states that the Democrats voted and approved of all the programs.
Gee - I think I remember that. Not that I was happy about liberals acquiescing to the Bush
demands. So she presents two totally different scenarios regarding who kept us safe
AND - if they prosecute the former VEEP - will the Republicans be launching attacks
against Dems for approving the programs? 'Course we will have to find out the truth
in the meantime about whether the Dems even KNEW about ALL of the programs.
Take a look.
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AnteUp4 months, 2 weeks ago
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A little excerpt from Sy Hersh's July 2008 New Yorker article,
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Preparing the Battlefield:
The defensive-lethal language led some Democrats, according to congressional sources familiar with their views, to call in the director of the C.I.A., Air Force General Michael V. Hayden, for a special briefing. Hayden reassured the legislators that the language did nothing more than provide authority for Special Forces operatives on the ground in Iran to shoot their way out if they faced capture or harm.
Just this week Hayden has resurfaced to proclaim that our
Congress was FULLY BRIEFED. Oh! It really is laughable..
...just in case they need to shoot their way out?
I guess we are way passed them hoping that we won't notice,
they count on the public being disinterested or stupid.
I suppose there is another choice, and that would be that
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