Rep. Anthony Weiner Makes the Case for Single-Payer »
Posted By jovial 4 months, 1 week ago in Political NewsREP. WEINER: Name a single thing a private insurance company does to make anyone healthier, to save anyone money. Health insurance companies operate like they're supposed to. They're businesses. They operate to make profits. How do you make profits? By giving away as little, and collecting as much. It's the opposite of the imperative that we have as the representatives of the people.
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jovial4 months, 1 week ago
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Here's the video.
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Endoscopy4 months, 1 week ago
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Michael Moore. Such an unbiased source. This is just more liberal propaganda.
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"How do you make profits? By giving away as little, and collecting as much."
The basis of the capitalist system is competition between companies with the same or similar product or service. The Greed aspect that liberals always talk about like the quote above alludes to is so much garbage because they have a terrific bias against anybody making a profit. The reason it is garbage is because of the competition. If one company has the price too high for the product or service they give then people go to the other company. What happens when there is a monopoly like the single payer system? People have NO CHOICE about what they pay or the product or service they get. That makes the product or service costly, poor or both.
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There ain't no such thing as a free lunch. This is a concept that liberals NEVER understand. The health care comes at a cost. Lower the cost and the care gets worse. The governments through Medicare and Medicaid force health care givers to take less for their care. The problem is, it is below the cost of the care. Therefore they spread the difference out between the rest of the patients. Government being the single payer will through what the example of Medicare and Medicaid will force the care givers to give less care in order to exist. Massachusetts is having that problem now. There is a hospital that ran in the black until last year and now is $35 million in the red. With the Medicaid cuts they will be $100 million in the red. Who is going to pay them? Someone has to or they will go bankrupt and the health care in that area takes a tremendous hit. Why do liberals think the government can do anything well? It has a very bad track record.
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AnteUp4 months, 1 week ago
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Okay - I'm stealing my own comment that I put up on deathray's
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submission that is on the front page and posting it again here.
It is about single-payer. It seems to me that there would be more complete coverage - for everyone - and we would SAVE $$.
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I found the following letter to the editor - I will omit the writer's name.
Editor: The health care bill introduced by the majority party in Congress will not provide universal coverage. Instead it will criminalize anyone who does not buy health insurance. The bill will add $1.5 trillion over 10 years to the cost of health care, instead of lowering annual cost by $1 trillion.
Instead of enacting a "single-payer" health care system similar to those in Canada,Great Britain,France,Germany and Japan, which would reduce per capita health care costs by 40 percent, or a total of $1 trillion annually in the United States, Congress only has a private insurance-based, multiple payer system "on the table" that will raise taxes,divert an additional $1.5 trillion to insurance companies over 10 years, and leave many millions uninsured and criminalized.
Many measures of health outcomes are worse in the United States than in the five advanced economies mentioned above. The benefit-to-cost ratio for the United States was shown to be 23 percent worse than the five advanced economies with "single payer" systems, according to an analysis done by the Business Roundtable.
A single-payer, universal health care system could be created in the United States by requiring Medicare to pay 100 percent - rather than the current 80 percent - of approved costs, and by extending Medicare to everyone, regardless of age. A value-added-based premium, better reflecting ability to pay, could be assessed on all enterprises.
There would be no premium share assessed on the employed or non-employed, nor would there be co-pays or deductibles.
The annual cost of universal coverage would be up to $1 trillion less than current costs.
I am not a medical doctor. But I am a doctor of economics and finance.
My prescription is to pull the plug on market-based, price-rationed health care, and enact universal, single-payer Medicare for better health and $1 trillion in annual savings.
The end of the letter to the editor.
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this person stated. If it IS true......why isn't single-payer
on the table? Because it would be less expensive - less confusing and provide better care? Is there something wrong
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beavith14 months, 1 week ago
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i've got to go and i can't comment on all, but one thing did jump out at me.
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you say:
...A single-payer, universal health care system could be created in the United States by requiring Medicare to pay 100 percent - rather than the current 80 percent - of approved costs,..
i think the rationale for 80% of approved costs is that it puts downward pressure on care prices. if you pay at 100% (or greater) it acts as an upward ratchet on pricing.
and then there's the catchall term 'approved'. that, literally, could mean anything.
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AnteUp4 months, 1 week ago
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I believe this is who moonstream is talking about:
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AnteUp4 months, 1 week ago
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It seems President Obama is considering Cass Sunstein to head
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the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs. I don't have
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