Whiteous Indignation »
Posted By jovial 4 months ago in Political Opinion
I've seen persistent smugness from Gates' arresting officer, Sergeant James Crowley, in his encounters with the press. This supposed expert on racial sensitivity has shown no sensitivity at all. But he does seem pleasantly taken with his fame. And why shouldn't he be? He out-maneuvered the President. He arrested a man for yelling-while-at-home and scored a beer at the White House as reward!
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Grew up In Brooklyn. Joined the Navy in 1976 stayed in 10 years. Aircraft Electronics tech. Worked for Major Govt. contractor then settled in California ...
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jovial4 months ago
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b-happy4 months ago
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I wonder what this racist Crowley would have said if a Black Police officer responded to the call. I guarantee the first thing out of this racist professors mouth wouldn't have been, "Your arresting me cuz I'm black in AMerica". It just shows who the real racist is when a white cop has to respond to a call and the first thing he hears from the black man is that the cop is racist.
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We should just not allow any white people to hold these jobs since the Liberals and blacks are going to use race as a way to make the black people victims every time a white man arrests a black man. Just get white people out of the jobs and let the black cops arrest black people so we don't have to hear from racist like this professor. -
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Endoscopy4 months ago
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You really do not want to believe all of the evidence in this case do you. The officer acted properly according to all of the witnesses who were there at the start. He tried walking away after the ID was shown and Gates kept getting in his face with the racist shouting. Then you get upset over the officer not giving an apology.
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I like that quote about black babies. I think that about ALL babies. I even tell proud parents that. It is a fact of life that babies will get to their teens and then watch out. -
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Natureboy4 months ago
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"whiteous indignation".?
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I like it. Besides mocking the crocodile-tears complaint of racism against whites (we are after all so oppressed in this country, har, har) it reminds me of a racist Elmer Fudd - "I am consumed with whiteous indignation, you pesky wabbit!" -
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pc254 months ago
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Hey Elmer Fudd seems Gates has a history of racism
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Obama Pal Henry Gates: "As Always, Whitey Now Sits in Judgment of Me"
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Icantwait4 months ago
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My Fellow American: Want to be! Jovial you are absolutely despicable. Sergeant Crowley is a very respected member of the Law Enforcement Community. Your cheap trashing of his Character is even Lower than that Harvard Professor. He was doing his job, protecting the people, sent to the scene, treaty the suspect with the utmost respect, an arrested Loud Mouth Gates, as he should have. Their was no call for that kind of Racist Retort from Mr. Gates. He was literally chastising the White Officer. There was a Black Officer there as well but he zeroed his anger and hostility at only Officer Crowley. It is clear that he had ulterior motives.
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Too bad that Harvard don't like it. Too bad that Mr. Gates don't like it. Too bad that Mr. Obama don't like it. Too bad You don't like it. He was doing what he is paid to do, Keep The Peace.
If he had acted inappropriately then the Black Officer would have stepped in. The Reason he did not was because Sergeant Crowley had the situation under control. Mr. Gates was out of Control, a Harvard Professor out of Control, and what does that say about the New Harvard and it's Staff. Instead of defending Mr. Gates they should fire him. They won't because it seems all Liberals are beginning to Feel Above The Law.
Jovial, you are not fit to call yourself and American. The Real American
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jordan114 months ago
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I could barely hear the interview, and couldn't make out the subtitles. It's true (the story of admiring black children/babies). Growing up in the 40's and 50's, racism was a real part of my experience.
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I still don't know what went on between the officer and the professor. But the fact that he was arrested makes me very uncomfortable. Would I have ranted and raved if an officer came to my door asking me to prove I lived here? Uh huh. Almost sounds like an ego thing going on with the officer. Not a good thing, in my estimation. -
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CHAM4 months ago
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Not only can I relate. she is dead on.
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I remember when I was a paperboy when I was just a kid. One of the press operators was a black man. He was the only black employee at the local rag. And he was the butt of many a joke. One that has always stuck with me was the paper paying him his weekly salary in pennies or nickles.
He always smiled and thanked his boss for the money.
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fsev414 months ago
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Apparently the charges were dropped for good reason. The Mass courts seem not to agree with Officer Crowley.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/adam-winkler/obama-w...
Seems that their courts, as recently as 2007 have said that shouting at a police officer, even in a public situation is not a valid disorderly conduct arrest. -
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alanocu4 months ago
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Obama is a racist. So is his buddy, Henry Louis Gates. Don't let these two Ivy League-educated, erudite, distinguished black men convince you that only whites can be racists. Believe me, these two men are the worst kind of racists: black and elitist.
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kobzikov4 months ago
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When I think of the worst kind of racists I tend to think of Nazi Einsatzgruppen death squads or the klansmen who carried out lynchings or maybe Turkish soldiers responsible for Armenian genocide or Hutu militias or other groups responsible for some of the worst atrocities in human history.
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You on the other hand think of Obama and Henry Louis Gates Jr. Interesting, Isn't it? -
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4cprocess4 months ago
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This from the same woman who wrote:
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January 5, 2008 at 09:11:08
ANTE UP FOR JOHN EDWARDS!!
by Linda Milazzo Page 1 of 1 page(s)
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The instant it was reported that John Edwards placed second in the Iowa caucus, I ran to my purse, grabbed my wallet, pulled out my credit card, and donated to the Edwards campaign. Not for the first time. And likely for not the last. I don't have much money to give, but with this nation in peril, it's necessary. There's too much to lose if I don't ante up. America NEEDS John Edwards!!
Wow, now there's some real insight.
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tehranchik4 months ago
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It's very difficult for any white person to relate to this type of racism. There is a very thin line. Crowly crossed that line when he put the cuffs on Gates. He knew Gates was in his own home. Should have been end of story.
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Most white people don't believe they're racist.
We are taught to be racists from a very young age. I remember the injuns, the commie pinkos, the japs, the blackie.
Those were words we heard on tv and in cartoons. Next in line are the middle eastern and gay and hispanic populations. It's all racist behavior.
Let me apologize if I've offended anyone with this comment. It clearly is not my intent. We all need to realize we do treat ethnic groups of people differently than someone of caucasian descent. It's a learned behavior.-
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Endoscopy4 months ago
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He did not cuff him in his home. He politely asked for him to come outside and the racist hate speech started He tried to walk away and Gates kept in his face shouting racist comments. This took a while and the officer had a bunch of witnesses to this fact. He was arrested for disturbing the peace with his shouting and obstructing the officer from leaving.
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Bkumm4 months ago
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We're in bad shape here. The fact of the matter is that Gates acted like a person out of control. Whether he is Black or White is not relevant to the discussion Sure, he has reasons to distrust and dislike White police officers and similarly, Crowley has reasons to suspect Black persons. Yes, I know, it's politically incorrect to say it, but, by percentage, Blacks commit more violent crimes than Whites. Is this a function of society? Certainly. Is it a function of the racial injustice that has gone on in this country? Certainly. Is is relevant to why a Black man is more likely to be suspected than a White man? Certainly.
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But, really, none of that is the issue. Gates behaved in a way that ANY police officer would have found a problem with. Therefore he got arrested. Not because he was Black, but in spite of that.-
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jovial4 months ago
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Then the charges should have stuck. A person should feel safe in their home. A home is a man's castle. He should have the right to dismiss anyone including the police from the premises. He has a right to privacy, and he shouldn't be carded in his own home without a warrant. With that said, he may have been loud, but he felt like he was being singled out. This officer had racial sensitivity classes. He should have apologized profusely after he found out that it was theman;s home and left. Two wrongs here, so that doesn't make a right. The officer should have given his name and badge number, apologized for the inconvenience and left. After the resident got the name and badge number he should have gone back into his residence quietly and filed a report or called his superior officer.
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Charlson4 months ago
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Once again: Do you understand the law?
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"The Massachusetts statute defining "disorderly conduct" used to have a provision that made it illegal to make "unreasonable noise or offensively coarse utterance, gesture or display," or to address "abusive language to any person present." Yet the courts have interpreted that provision to violate the Massachusetts Constitution's guarantee of freedom of speech. So police cannot lawfully arrest a person for hurling abusive language at an officer." -
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willottica4 months ago
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Gates behaved in a way that ANY police officer would have found a problem with. Therefore he got arrested.
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I agree with you. I agree that Gates acted poorly and that the officer was sure to have a problem with it. I agree that it was likely that, and not racism, that motivated the arrest.
Where I can't agree with you is that the arrest was justified. Motivated, yes. But not justified. Yelling at a police officer is not a crime. Angering a police officer is not a crime. Police officers are entrusted with a great deal of power, and with that power, a responsibility not to abuse it. Gates did not cross the line, there was no line preventing him from stating exactly how he felt (no matter how racially biased and ill-founded those feeling were; no matter how loudly he stated it) to the police officer. Crowley DID cross the line by arresting Gates when no crime had been committed.
I agree that the story is not about racism. It's not about racial profiling. It's about abuse of power by a police officer, not because his victim was black, but in spite of it.
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tehranchik4 months ago
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Anybody remember any of these cartoons?
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lloydm654 months ago
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Its not about black,and white,but about race baiters,white ultra liberals,who are ashamed of their whiteness.They tiptoe around these professional victims every day,and their miserable.A black racist is just as bad as a white racist.When people start acting normal around blacks,and refuse to listen to slave crap the better off we'll be.
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skyking2p4 months ago
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Wos you must be from the "old school " of racist pigs. The ones I grew up with.
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"When people start acting normal around blacks" when you say that do you mean pulling them out of the homes in the middle of the night and hanging them from trees ? I think that was normal back in the south in the 40s and 50s. Do you mean stopping there cars and and shooting them on the side of the road like a police officer did in Philadelphia Mississippi in the 60s. Well that one, there was two blacks and a Jew. But anyway; is that what you mean by "normal" ?
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thesatyr014 months ago
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Funny,every black in Crowley's department supported the arrest of Gates...including Crowley's black partner. Seems the liberals are race baiting again. Course they have to come up with SOMETHING to distract the sheep from noticing that Obama has failed on his attempt for Government control of health care and the closer it gets to the 2010 midterms the less likely anything will pass.
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Charlson4 months ago
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"The Massachusetts statute defining "disorderly conduct" used to have a provision that made it illegal to make "unreasonable noise or offensively coarse utterance, gesture or display," or to address "abusive language to any person present." Yet the courts have interpreted that provision to violate the Massachusetts Constitution's guarantee of freedom of speech. So police cannot lawfully arrest a person for hurling abusive language at an officer."
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Bkumm4 months ago
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I'm still not sure I understand from where the outrage comes. If this had been a White professor and a Black cop the positions of many on this site would be reversed.
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Are we all in a tizzy because some guy got busted in a way that seems inappropriate? If that's the case we'd better get on the ball because it happens every single day in America to every race, color and creed.
OR are we all in a tizzy because a Black professor who is a friend of the President got busted by a White cop?
This incident is about more than race. It's also about privilege and the seemingly infinite capacity of human beings to be complete jerks to each other and then claim some kind of bias.-
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Charlson4 months ago
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I'll tell you where I'm coming from. I interact with the campus cops at my university and for the most part they are very professional people and a pleasure to know and call friends. But the city cops are a different animal. I've personally seen abusive behavior exhibited by many of them and it wouldn't matter what race or creed you are, it's the power that they hold over individuals and their intolerance towards anything they perceive as disrespect.
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automan9094 months ago
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Blacks like Gates ,Sharpton, Jackson, and Obama have to keep the race card alive or they would actually have to succeed in life based on their own skills, and a fair and equal playing field.
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Their jobs depend on fanning the flames of racism.
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Goppy4 months ago
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And of course, whites like Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage, O'Really, Beck .... they watch and observe Sharpton and Jackson ... and imitate their methods ...
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... but of course ... since they are white ... America seems to be used to it.
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Bkumm4 months ago
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I purposely usually don't wade into situations like this. I HATE being accused of either being a racist or of apologizing for them. However, I also despise the fact that both sides seem to have no problem taking the other side to task for issues and then ignoring those issues when it relates to their side. It's a terrible problem in America and one we'd better get a handle on pretty fast or it's going to tear us apart.
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In this particular instance, both parties (the police officer and Professor Gates) did not act in a manner consistent with decorum and polite company. However, based on what I've seen (I was not there), it appears that Professor Gates escalated the situation and then continued to do so. The police officer did not arrest Professor Gates in his home. The police officer had multiple witnesses and a crowd was beginning to gather. He needed to control the situation so he arrested Gates. In retrospect, this may not have been the best choice. But, he acted in a manner consistent with police procedure.
I think and believe that Professor Gates is a genuinely good man who has a unique insight into our world. However, he has historical and personal reasons to dislike and distrust the police. With justification. That does not mean, in this instance, that he was justified in his behavior. It does, however, explain why he allegedly acted the way he did.
I think and believe that Sgt. Crowley is a good man and a decent police officer. However, he has historical and professional reasons to suspect people of crimes when they may not have committed them. With justification. That does not mean, however, that he was justified in this instance. It does, however, explain his behavior.
Ultimately, this incident highlights how far we have to go in this country to reach a point where a person will be judged by the content of his character by both his friends and his foes, rather than by the color of his skin.
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JonesRocket7774 months ago
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Jovial, You are just as shallow as the rest of the idiots that work at our Cal. Universities. I wish you could see in real world terms. I was raised in the Wash DC area in the late 60's and 70's when nimrod politicans tried to integrate our school systems without educating the children in diversity. The first two years, black children were bussed into my local elementary school. The Black children acted like a bunch of angry gorellas, beating up on the white children, taking their lunch money, or for just no reason at all. The grading system dropped 5 points, so that all a child had to do to get passing grades was SHOW UP. The next two years, my brother and I were bussed into a black neighborhood Jr. high school. What a cluster f**k that was. I was in fights every day, just trying to keep my lunch money. My grades suffered terribly. No, don't try to defend these black children. They weren't any worse off than the white childrens. We were all from lower middle class families. That is when my parents had to take on additional jobs to be able to send my brother and I to private school. And of coarse we didn't have the guidance that was required for keeping children out of trouble. We eventually had to move because the black families started moving closer to the new schools that their children were going to, and thats right, there went the neighborhood. I couldn't even go out in the front yard to play without having a gun held to my head at the age of 14. The racism was not the white folks as much as the black folks. If anyone has a right to have a chip on their shoulder, is me! (I'm white in case you haven't figured that out already. Point is, every time I hear this racism against blacks, I want to choke a Liberal! What a crock. You do't like what I have written? Well consider yourself blind. These are the facts that most are afraid to speak out about. These are facts that can't be changed. NO excuses can be used to defend these actions of hatred. I have experienced racism just as many others have. So every time I hear the "I'm black, defense" You can kiss my white asss!
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jovial4 months ago
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Wow! Thanks for providing this example. If I would have said this no one would believe me and accused me of bias. Ladies and Gentlemen, the "Whiteous Indignation" term has now been coined thanks to JonesRocket. I wonder why you couldn't use your real handle and had to use a sockpuppet? Were you to ashamed to say it in person?
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Goppy4 months ago
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WOW indeed .... we got ourselves a totally repressed individual ... frustrated at his/her life beyond comprehension.
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Plump and Ripe for the Picking by the Jingoistic Tactics of the Modern Republican .... .... .... you know ... ... ... it IS a quasi-Religion .... with a baptism and everything.
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willottica4 months ago
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I can't believe you would use the recent past to justify white people's racism against black people, and ignore the previous reality of oppression which might justify black people's racism against white people.
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None of it is justified. Not your racism, not their racism.
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CHAM4 months ago
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I heard someone say on TV today that it was a "Police Problem". And I have to agree.
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Just look at the case on TV today where a Black Deaf Person was Tasered and gassed. The cops didn't know his non-response was because he was deaf and mentally deficient until they found a card in his billfold.
After they found the card, they still arrested him and took him to jail - not to the hospital to judge the extent of his injuries.
Let me repeat - after they determined that he was deaf and mentally deficient. Did you get that?
I knew cops who went looking for trouble or the opportunity to hurt or shoot someone every time they got into their patrol car. They were policemen because they liked the "authority".
Anyone who reads this knows for a fact that there are such cops out there. And they are dangerous to the public. I once put a comment ( this year )on another post about my brother in Law ( A State Policeman )who once arrested a fellow officer for abusing a detainee. It didn't go over well.
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