Colin Powell to Skip Gates:“You don’t argue with a police officer” »
Posted By pc25 6 months, 2 weeks ago in Political News
Via Mediaite, something to start the conversational ball rolling at that not-all-awkward White House drink-up on Thursday.
Mediaite has obtained a transcript from former Sec. of State Colin Powell’s interview on CNN’s Larry King Live tonight, in which Powell comments on the Professor Gates story, as well as Sarah Palin and more…
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Albmore6 months, 2 weeks ago
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Powell is one of the smartest Generals OUR country has ever had. I was proud to serve under him. I believe if the Bush admin had listen more to him things would have ran different in Iraq.
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Did he probally vote for obama because of color? I would say 40% true. Was it an easy decission? No.
Do I think Powell agrees on how Obama is running thins? No I don not believe that.
One way or another Nothing has gotten into Powell except, as he always has, he looks at the entire situation and then makes stern judgement.
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LoonaTick6 months, 2 weeks ago
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pc256 months, 2 weeks ago
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hey mountain you must have missed this about the latest greatest liberal hero
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Henry Gates Rant In 1996 On "Racist White Institutions"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDEVa9jUlPs
Prof Gates at his inflammatory, race baiting best.....a toned down, more civil version of Rev Wright. he message is the same, as well as Obama association with these same types of people.........as we said during the campaign associations matter.......another wright, ayers, long standing friendship -
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crespi6 months, 2 weeks ago
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Oh, get off it, Cons.
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We ALL know it isn't your concern for Prof Gate's rights, or even Sgt. Crowley's rights. It's that you categorically HATE President Obama and will inflame as much of your racist base as you can to tear our country down to feed your own rage and egos.
Get real, and stop pretending. It just hacks everyone off.-
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BB646 months, 2 weeks ago
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Fried,
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We're simply showing Obama the same respect you showed President Bush. As to Gates, he's not someone to ally with. He's pedaling another book tour or PBS special and needs to get some PR. After the President's comments and Gates conduct I have one question for you. When do they go to the race sensitivity class? It's clear the racists were the Professor and the President.
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Albmore6 months, 2 weeks ago
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I think President Obama was one of those who acted stupidly in this matter. 1.He must realize he is President and not a community organizer anymore. Now he is going to have them both visit the white house. OMG are we paying him to disovle problems between his friends and the police or solve the problems are nation. To me this is an abuse of position. Who is flipping the bill for this little visit at the white house? Yes thats right WE are!
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VocalOp6 months, 2 weeks ago
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In hindsight, everyone views things differently and reacts to given situations differently (usually out of personal experience). By the way, I've noticed Dr. Gates isn't saying he still believes it was a racially motivated incident - why the continued discussion? Powell has even said he and every black in America has been a victim of racial profiling - no exoneration here.
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I'm more bothered that it appears the Officer was already calculating the fire storm that would be caused from his egotistical behavior (pulling rank), and chooses to put Whalen in the controversy by saying she is the one who told him it was two black males. So, why is he lying (if whalen is being honest - has no reason to lie)?-
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BB646 months, 2 weeks ago
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Pulling rank? Bothered? It's all the officer's fault? I live in a major city and I'd be happy if a cop investigated a possible break in. The woman reporting the break in claimed she thought one might be Hispanic. That's where the black guy comments might have come in. It might also be the cop saw the two men and that's were he mixed races. It could have been a dispatcher using a term like minority. You're reading way too much into this. This would have been the second time the house was broken into within a year. I think the professor is lucky they didn't cuff and stuff him right away. The officer identified himself right away and the professor went into racist high gear.
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I'm waiting for the full recording to be released. Oh, didn't know? The officers wear a radio that has a recording capability that will be transcribed. It will be very interesting to hear the full exchange. If what the officer says is even partially true, the real racist would be the professor. Will Harvard keep a racist on the payroll?
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BB646 months, 2 weeks ago
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I've had the privilege to serve with some of the best men and women of our armed forces. Race has nothing to do with their being the best or worst officers I've worked with. I suspect Powell did not run into the color wall that you'd find at the same time in the business world. The military is color blind.
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rail1286 months, 2 weeks ago
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Who would listen to advice from Colin Powell, the guy who sold out and stupidly bought in to the fiasco disaster of George Bush's Iraq War ?? Who CARES what this clown has to say ??? Who stood up in front of the UN and recited a pack of lies ?? Uh, hate to rain on you right wingers' parade, but now the that the FACTS are coming out, Crowley & the Cambridge Police Dept are looking like a bunch of idiots !! The lady who called 911, Lucia Whalen, specifically told the 911 operator there "were two suitcases on the porch" -- hardly sounds like a break-in, does it ?? Nothing about "backpacks", Crowley LIED about that -- so what else did he lie about ?? Seeing its lead story turn into a dung pile, Fox "News" has quickly abandoned it, trolling the bottom elsewhere for ANY excuse to divert the national attention away from serious issues like single payer health care. And Colin Powell is irrelevant, as usual.
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BB646 months, 2 weeks ago
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Hold on. I don't like Powell however, I won't let you call him a liar. Bush 43 wasn't either. Based upon the CIA reports form almost 20 years, they claimed Saddam had chemical, biological and nuclear programs. His use of gas on the Iranians and then his own people supported the claims he had all three. The term WMD was a terrible move by the Bush White House speech writers because it didn't fully explain what that meant. They should have used CBNW. Chemical, Biological, Nuclear Warfare. We found chemical and bio weapons because of the terrorists. They found a huge stock pile of shells and tried to use them in IED's without realizing they were chemical shells. The good thing, the detonators were bad. That's were they found over 5K shells that time. Clearly he had weapons restricted in 1990.
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On Crowley lying, I'm not sure. Who said what to him? Was it from the dispatcher? Was it from personal observations? I don't have FOX news, I'm too cheap to pay for cable. From what I've been able to find clearly points to an over reaction by Professor Gates. He went right into racist attack mode. Why? Because a white police officer came by to check on a potential break in? What was he trying to hide? Should they have brought in the drug dogs? The only reason for his actions, especially when he follows the cop out the front door screaming and calling names. It makes no sense to me. But then again, I don't see racism everywhere. Then again, I don't make money selling the idea of racism. Gates does. So when does his next book come out?
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djn3nunez36 months, 2 weeks ago
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The proper objection to Gates isn’t that he was rude to a cop, which is perfectly legal if boorish; it’s that he and our Post-Racial President assumed bad faith and demagogued the race angle by suggesting it was a case of profiling when it almost certainly wasn’t.
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Post-Racial? Does that mean we've crossed great racial divide? Ho ho ho. NOT. It has changed a great deal. We whites can't just trump up charges and hang them (racially charge censored word) from the local tree anymore, but we can find all kinds of ways to sutbly show our outrage at having a (racially charge censored word)) for President. Where is your Birth Certificate Mr. President? Are you sure your not a Muslim (Socialist, communist, Nazi, Crackhead, wh*remonger) Mr. President? -
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tadair9196 months, 2 weeks ago
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you don't argue with a police officer?
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if a cop told me to step outside of my own residence without cause, i would have told him to kiss my arse, too.
sure, powell. don't miss your opportunity to re-assert the slave-mind chain of command mantra.-
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willottica6 months, 2 weeks ago
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Thank you. I can't believe it took until the end of the thread to challenge that ridiculous assertion.
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"You don't argue with a police officer"
You do if the officer is wrong! Or at least you should be able to. But our society has us so cowed by the boys in blue that few would dare. That is not the sign of a free society. That is the sign of a police state.
I got pulled over once for pacing myself to the speeding cop in front of me. His first words: "I could take away your license for going that fast." A threat. So I knew his power and wouldn't argue. And it worked. I kept quiet until he had written me the ticket. I should not be afraid to express my opinion like that.
We should not be controlled by police, we should be protected by them.
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