Check Out The Brides In Gaza. How Come They're So Friggen Young? »
Posted By Mutainia 3 months ago in Religion
“We are saying to the world and to America that you cannot deny us joy and happiness,” Zahar told the grooms, all of whom were dressed in identical black suits and hailed from the nearby Jabalia refugee camp. Why is pedophilia allowed in Islam? Any answers? We can certainly go to the Hadith (second in importance to Muslims as the Quran is) for them. WARNING!!! This can be seen as disturbing.
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jonmaverick3 months ago
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And just think, in the United States women could not even vote until 1920, as declared in the 19th Amendment to our Constitution. Women still don't make as much money as men, well except for women like Oprah, or Hillary, or Julia Roberts. We have still never had a woman President, or even Vice-President. There are prostitutes in every city in the US, and some are under the legal age of consent.
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But yes, we the citizens of The United States, do indeed get the high ground on this one. That's damn disgusting, that's what that is. Those girls should be playing with dolls, not dollywhackers. What the fu(k is wrong with you people?-
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Mutainia3 months ago
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What the f? It's in the Hadith that Muhammad married a six year old, opening the door to this. And guess what? It's ALSO in the Hadith that IF your child bride doesn't satisfy you, you can divorce her by saying "I divorce you" three times.
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BronxBomber3 months ago
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Bovver3 months ago
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This article is a prime example of the abysmal level of intellect so frequently found on propeller and the gullibility of the posters here.
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A sensible person would question the degree to which a website that decries Bill Gates as literally being Satan and runs endless stories condemning Islam is a reliable and honest broker on Islamic theology. A sensible person would want to know the linguistic qualifications of the author and a bit about his background.
What I found with 2 minutes of searching is that the author is a fundamentalist Christian clergyman, ardent Zionist and a neo-con activist promoting war on Islam that seems to have no Arabic language credentials at all. He is also being sued by McMaster University for $2 Million, as a result of his claims that Islamic terrorists managed to steal 180lbs of unspecified nuclear material Nuclear McMaster University reactor The University has extracted an apology from the publisher of Dunces of Doomsday, WND Books/Cumberland House Publishing, who now say that statements made in Williams' book about the theft are "without basis in fact." Williams himself is standing behind his claims while proving zero evidence for his assertion.
As to the story itself it seems that what Williams did was take pictures of children attending the wedding and claim that they are brides. The famous neo-con WND which is run by an ardent fundamentalism Christian and neo-con activist has refuted the story as can be seen here: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=106002 In essence what Williams did is craft a lie to help support his efforts to demonize Islam and the posters accepted it at face value because they are too stupid, intellectually lazy and hateful to read critically anything that affirms anti-Islamic bigotry.-
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jmopinion3 months ago
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The United Nations Children’s Fund (UNICEF) reports that
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over half of the girls in Afghanistan and Bangladesh are married
before they reach the age of eighteen.43 In early 2002, researchers
in refugee camps in Afghanistan and Pakistan found half the
girls married by age thirteen. In an Afghan refugee camp, more
than two out of three second-grade girls were either married or
engaged, and virtually all the girls who were beyond second
grade were already married. One ten-year-old was engaged to a
man of sixty.44 Fifty seven percent of Afghan girls under the age
of sixteen, and many as young as nine, are in arranged marriages. The Ayatollah
Khomeini of Iran married a ten-year-old girl when he was
twenty-eight. Khomeini called marriage to a prepubescent
girl “a divine blessing,” and advised the faithful: “Do your
best to ensure that your daughters do not see their first blood
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Mutainia3 months ago
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You can attack the messenger all you want, Bower, but, did those pictures look photo shopped to you? Also, are you going to deny the fact that Muhammad openned the door to this sort of thing by marrying a 6 year old? OR the fact that the Hadith (second to the Quran) allows the Muhammadan man to marry girls who haven't had their periods yet and says they can DIVORCE them if they no longer please them? Would you like me to post said sayings?
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Sabretooth3 months ago
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"In essence what Williams did is craft a lie to help support his efforts to demonize Islam and the posters accepted it at face value because they are too stupid, intellectually lazy and hateful to read critically anything that affirms anti-Islamic bigotry."
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Mutainia3 months ago
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So, since it comes from an author who is a fundamentalist Christian clergyman, you can't believe it? Far easier to believe if it comes from those who follow a faith (Islam), whose founder said "war is deceit" and "(Verily) we smile for some people, while our hearts curse (those same people)." Sahih al Bukhari, v4, p45 publishers Uthmania, Egypt that Abu al-Darda' said he heard the Prophet?
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Bovver3 months ago
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The proudly flaunted stupidity at propeller is a wonder to behold.
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Jmopinion thinks that an un-cited UN report about girls marrying underage the age of 18 in Bangladesh and Afghanistan reflects an acceptance of paedophilia by Muslims in general demonstrating a lack of reasoning ability. What he didn’t bother pointing out is that the legally the age for consensual sex in the Muslims nations of Afghanistan, Eritrea, Egypt, Iraq, Kazakhstan, Turkey & the United Arab Emirates is 18. (See:http://www.avert.org/age-of-consent.htm )
What he also failed to point out is that the legal age for consensual sex in the Christian nations of Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, the Czech Republic, Ecuador, Ethiopia, France, Greece, Iceland, Lithuania, Romania, Spain, Serbia, Sweden is 15 or less. (See:http://www.avert.org/age-of-consent.htm )
Those of us not driven to stupidity by hatred of faiths other then our own will note that people often marry under the age of 18 no matter what religion predominates in any given place. Those of us that possess the ability to reason and notice social contexts other then religion will affect mating rituals. Further, in a great many nations (such as Afghanistan & Bangladesh) the life expectancy is often significantly less then it is wealthy Western nations and that marriage occurring in the early teens makes a bit more sense when you can reasonably be expected to be dead at the age of 40-50. If jmopinion was more honest and bit less stupid he’d have noted that when America had similar life expectancies marriages involving early teens frequently occurred.
I could also point out that in a great many rural portions of the third world local ethnic customs dictates pre-arranged marriages taking place at very early ages with consummation occurring when the female reaches puberty.. Such rituals take place in various portions of Asia, Africa and the South Pacific with little or no Muslims yet attacking anyone other then Muslims entails a risk of public disapproval so cowards like Mutainia & jmopinion choose to be selective and dishonest in doling out moral outrage. Somehow, I doubt suggesting that faux-con misanthropes read up on such things before posting would would do much good since critical thinking and research is clearly not something that people like jmopinion is able to do so I won’t bother. Lastly, un-attributed quotes likely taken from an openly biased and fraudulent source like thelastcrusade.org don’t prove anything.-
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Mutainia3 months ago
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Bov: The proudly flaunted stupidity at propeller is a wonder to behold.
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Mut: After reading some of your stuff, I tend to agree.
Bov: Jmopinion thinks that an un-cited UN report about girls marrying underage the age of 18 in Bangladesh and Afghanistan reflects an acceptance of paedophilia by Muslims in
general demonstrating a lack of reasoning ability.
Mut: Un-cited? You hope?
Bov: What he didn’t bother pointing out is that the legally the age for consensual sex in the Muslims nations of Afghanistan, Eritrea, Egypt, Iraq, Kazakhstan, Turkey & the
United Arab Emirates is 18. (See:http://www.avert.org/age-of-consent.htm )
Mut: So, Muhammad marrying a six year old and for the Hadith saying it's ok to marry a girl who hasn't had her period yet are wrong?
Bov: What he also failed to point out is that the legal age for consensual sex in the Christian nations of Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, the Czech Republic, Ecuador,
Ethiopia, France, Greece, Iceland, Lithuania, Romania, Spain, Serbia, Sweden is 15 or less. (See:http://www.avert.org/age-of-consent.htm )
Mut: Where does it say in the Bible you can have sex with girls 15 or less, and, divorce them "if they don't please you" like Muhammad says in the Hadith?
Bov: Those of us not driven to stupidity by hatred of faiths other then our own will note that people often marry under the age of 18 no matter what religion predominates in
any given place.
Mut: So it IS ok to marry little girls like the photos in this article shows? Could you make up your mind, sir?
Bov: Those of us that possess the ability to reason and notice social contexts other then religion will affect mating rituals.
Mut: And, due to social and religious mating rituals, it's ok or NOT ok to have sex with little girls? Could you make up your mind?
Bov: Further, in a great many nations (such as Afghanistan & Bangladesh) the life expectancy is often significantly less then it is wealthy Western nations and that marriage
occurring in the early teens makes a bit more sense when you can reasonably be expected to be dead at the age of 40-50.
Mut: And THAT'S what makes it ok to have sex with little girls like Muhammad said? Really?
Bov: If jmopinion was more honest and bit less stupid he’d have noted that when America had similar life expectancies marriages involving early teens frequently occurred.
Mut: So, again, it IS ok to have sex with little girls like Muhammad said? After all, you won't deny he married a six year old and had sex with her when she was nine, will
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Mutainia3 months ago
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Bov: I could also point out that in a great many rural portions of the third world local ethnic customs dictates pre-arranged marriages taking place at very early ages with
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consummation occurring when the female reaches puberty.
Mut: Oh, I'm sure you could. And, this somehow makes pedophilia ok, or, not? You seem to be saying pedophilia IS ok in your desperate attempt to let Islam off the hook here.
Which is it?
Bov: Such rituals take place in various portions of Asia, Africa and the South Pacific with little or no Muslims
Mut: So, it IS ok to have sex with little girls as depicted in the pictures of this article you are trying to deny, true?
Bov: yet attacking anyone other then Muslims entails a risk of public disapproval so cowards like Mutainia & jmopinion choose to be selective and dishonest
Mut: How have I, Mutainia, been dishonest, O confused Islam defender?
Bov: in doling out moral outrage.
Mut: And, you have no moral outrage over pedophilia because it's only a cultural thing that we should look down on sex with little girls like Muhammad says in the Hadith?
Bov: Somehow, I doubt suggesting that faux-con misanthropes read up on such things
Mut: Why? So we can accept Muhammadans having sex with little girls like Muhammad says you can?
Bov: before posting would would do much good
Mut: ?
Bov: since critical thinking and research is clearly not something that people like jmopinion is able to do so I won’t bother.
Mut: And YOU are Mr. Critical thinker here? REALLY!?!?
Bov: Lastly, un-attributed quotes likely taken from an openly biased and fraudulent source like thelastcrusade.org don’t prove anything.
Mut: Can't believe pictures from a possible Christian web site, ONLY from a source that follows a "prophet" who said "war is deceit", GOT ya. -
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Bovver3 months ago
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Since I feel guilty about picking on Mut since he clearly lacks the ability to read so I’ll just sum things up for those propeller readers with an IQ over 70. Mut posted an article claiming that Hamas married off a few hundred young children and I demonstrated that the author of the article crafted a lie to help support his efforts to demonize Islam and several posters accepted it at face value because they are too stupid, intellectually lazy and hateful to read critically anything that affirms anti-Islamic bigotry. I even did so using an anti-Muslim website. Mut didn’t even attempt to address that matter because he can’t. I also pointed out at length why child marriages happen in very diverse locals over time and that as a result attributing the odious practice to being fundamentally Muslim is an example of sloppy thinking. Since Mut can’t think or read he assumes that pointing out such an obvious truth is the same as defending paedophilia.
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Mut can, and likely will, respond with more stupidity, logical fallacies and deflecting attention-
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Mutainia3 months ago
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Bov: Since I feel guilty about picking on Mut since he clearly lacks the ability to read so I’ll just sum things up for those propeller readers with an IQ over 70.
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Mut: You feel guilty for picking on me? You call ME the liar. RIGHT. :)
Bov: Mut posted an article claiming that Hamas married off a few hundred young children and I demonstrated that the author of the article crafted a lie to help support his efforts to demonize Islam and several posters accepted it at face value because they are too stupid,
Mut: They probably accepted it on face value because of the photos and quotes. I accepted it on face value because, hey, READ THE HADITH!!!
Bov: intellectually lazy and hateful to read critically anything that affirms anti-Islamic bigotry.
Mut: Anti-Islamic "bigotry" that can be EASILY believed, thanks to Muhammad marrying a six year old, Khomaniac saying what HE said, and, Muhammad saying you can marry a girl who hasn't had her period yet. EASY to believe this article.
Bov: I even did so using an anti-Muslim website.
Mut: And I read that article. Guess what? The article is quoting from HAMAS officials. You think you can believe what HAMAS officials say? Oh, wait, of course YOU can....can and WILL. :)
Bov: Mut didn’t even attempt to address that matter because he can’t.
Mut: Really? Seems I just did.
Bov: I also pointed out at length why child marriages happen in very diverse locals over time and that as a result attributing the odious practice to being fundamentally Muslim is an example of sloppy thinking.
Mut: And I presented facts from Islam itself making it so it seems quite unlikely that those photos were photo shopped and those quotes were lies. But, you certainly are trying to avoid that fact. How come?
Bov Since Mut can’t think or read he assumes that pointing out such an obvious truth is the same as defending paedophilia.
Mut: And you are saying you AREN'T defending sex with children? How so? Show how you AREN'T when you talk about it being a cultural thing to try to get Islam off the hook here. Please show.
Bov: Mut can, and likely will, respond with more stupidity, logical fallacies and deflecting attention
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Sabretooth3 months ago
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Bovver3 months ago
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Thanks Sabretooth. Watching mut flail around is sort of sad in that he is so slow witted that he assumes photos of young girls at a wedding means they are brides. He doesn’t care that the author doesn’t know Arabic, is a professional Muslim hater and his own publisher admits that he’s a liar. Mut assumes that anything anti-Muslim is incontrovertibly true which is a very sad statement on his mental health and lack of intellect. When mut claimed to have read the WND article I guess he missed the part that said “said “A WND review of the video found some of the little girls, speaking in Arabic, state they are at the wedding of a family member. The girls interviewed do not say anything about themselves getting married. Multiple calls to Palestinians who participated in the wedding affirmed the little girls are not themselves the brides.” The bottom line here is that the Muslim hating website WND not only failed to confirm the story posted by mut it refuted it yet in mut’s fevered mind the story is not only unquestionable true it proves that all Muslims are child molesters.
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Looking back I see it was pointless to even attempt to point out that the tragedy of child marriage is a reflection of demographics and regional culture or that religious texts written 1400 years ago have a historical context since a sad, willfully ignorant creature like mut can’t grasp such concepts. Still, I’d like to assume that a sizable portion of the readers here don’t share the unthinking, hateful stupidity of people like mut and I’m right in that assumption I guess it’s been worth while posting here. In any case, fighting the stifling miasma of slovenly cretins like mut has become tiresome and mut’s position has been demolished in the mind of anyone able to read so I won’t continue to flog a dead horse.-
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Mutainia3 months ago
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Bov: Thanks Sabretooth. Watching mut flail around is sort of sad in that he is so slow witted that he assumes photos of young girls at a wedding means they are brides.
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Mut: Provide a site NOT quoting Hamas officials that has proof that they AREN'T brides. Not to see you aren't saying they are photo shopped now.
Bov: He doesn’t care that the author doesn’t know Arabic,
Mut: How does one knowing or not knowing Arabic play into this?
Bov: is a professional Muslim hater and his own publisher admits that he’s a liar.
Mut: I take it that if he was a Muslim lover you'd then believe him?
Bov: Mut assumes that anything anti-Muslim is incontrovertibly true which is a very sad statement on his mental health and lack of intellect.
Mut: No, I see pictures of girls dolled up and sexy with grown men, looking like they are getting married and I can't help but think that the Hadith is being put into play and Muhammadans are emulating their god Muhammad.
Bov: When mut claimed to have read the WND article I guess he missed the part that said “said “A WND review of the video found some of the little girls, speaking in Arabic, state they are at the wedding of a family member.
Mut: And so the being all dolled up and sexy is for...?
Bov: The girls interviewed do not say anything about themselves getting married.
Mut: Maybe they are to young to know what they are in for?
Bov: Multiple calls to Palestinians who participated in the wedding affirmed the little girls are not themselves the brides.”
Mut: And you beLIEVE them because...?
Bov: The bottom line here is that the Muslim hating website WND not only failed to confirm the story posted by mut it refuted it yet in mut’s fevered mind the story is not only unquestionable true it proves that all Muslims are child molesters.
Mut: And the little girls were all dolled up and looking sexy with grown men for...?
Bov: Looking back I see it was pointless to even attempt to point out that the tragedy of child marriage is a reflection of demographics and regional culture or that religious texts written 1400 years ago have a historical context since a sad, willfully ignorant creature like mut can’t grasp such concepts.
Mut: So, again, you have NO problem with sex with children IF the culture (like Islam) has accepted it, true?
Bov: Still, I’d like to assume that a sizable portion of the readers here don’t share the unthinking, hateful stupidity of people like mut and I’m right in that assumption I guess
Mut: You guess?
Bov: it’s been worth while posting here.
Mut: Ditto.
Bov: In any case, fighting the stifling miasma of slovenly cretins like mut has become tiresome and mut’s position has been demolished in the mind of anyone able to read so I won’t continue to flog a dead horse.
Mut: Still won't give a good explaination as to why those girls are dressed up like brides. Well, atLEAST you now say they aren't photo-shopped...that's progress.
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