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Posted By Mutainia 3 months, 3 weeks ago in Arts & Entertainment
I made a video a while back to see if atheists would take the "Mark of the Beast" if it meant they couldn't by or sell without it like the Bible sa...
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I'm now pretty much a bystander with this whole Propeller thing. Too many friends have gone "POOF" into cyber ether, making me a bit ...
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TheRealizer3 months, 3 weeks ago
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Mutainia3 months, 3 weeks ago
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So, if the day ever came where you heard that Christians had vanished to make the news, and you couldn't get your money out of the bank without getting some kind of mark on your right hand or forehead, you'd clearly take that mark without question, true? :)
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smithichie3 months, 3 weeks ago
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Funny how I can't find any mention of the so called rapture in the Bible. Christians who believe in the so called rapture, do so for non-Biblical reasons.
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With that said, I will bring up the point I did last time you posed this question. How do YOU know YOU haven't already taken the mark of the beast, in the form of a social security number, watch, ring, or work ID card? What makes you so certain that the whole mark business would play out as a LEFT BEHIND comic? Maybe Satan has read, or helped write LEFT BEHIND, and changed HIS gameplan accordingly?-
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vvv63vvv3 months, 3 weeks ago
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revelation chapter 4:
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1.After this I looked , and, behold , a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said , Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter .
2.And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold , a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.
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Mutainia3 months, 3 weeks ago
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What if it meant your head on a chopping block? According to Revelation, if you refuse the mark to buy or sell, it's supposed to cost you your life. I'm betting THEN you, as an atheist, would think it WAS aliens that made Christians vanish and take that mark, true?
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slate3 months, 3 weeks ago
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Interestingly enough Rapture isn’t actually found in the Bible, but many want to see it there.
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Here is a take on that topic I found on the net.
I will admit I am at fault for that comment about the word “rapture” not being in any common English translation. The words “caught up” in 1 Thessalonians 4:17 could translate the Latin word “rapturo.” However, to refer to that as “the rapture” could lead to the same problems and misunderstandings that have resulted from the King James Version translators using the word “baptism” instead of translating it “immersion.” My first statement, that the idea of the rapture as some people being caught up from the earth and others remaining not being taught in the Bible, still stands.
You bring up two passages, neither of which teaches anything about some people being taken from the earth before others. One is a picture of the church throughout the ages, and the other is talking about the end of the world.
Revelation 7:13-14 talks about a great number of people who are before the throne of God. Since the Revelation was written about things that were to happen within a few years of its writing, it is a symbolic view of the church going through the Roman persecution. The description of a multitude serving God in his temple is a beautiful picture of the church. Christians serve God daily in his temple, which Paul frequently said was the church (1 Corinthians 3:16-17; 2 Corinthians 6:16; Ephesians 2:21).
The passage in the Revelation said they had come “out of great tribulation.” So we should see where else the Bible talks about Christians coming out of or having tribulation. The examples all show that Christians have experienced tribulation even from the beginning. Paul told the Corinthians that he was then in tribulation (2 Corinthians 1:4; 7:4). He told the Thessalonians that a tribulation had already occurred. “For verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation; even as it came to pass, and ye know.” ( 1 Thessalonians 3:4) So these who were serving God in his temple (the church) had been in great tribulation, such as had occurred in John’s day and was about to repeat itself in the Roman persecution of the church for the next century and a half. Revelation 7:13-14 says nothing about anyone having been “snatched” from the earth before anyone else.-
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Endoscopy3 months, 3 weeks ago
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the biggest problem with the study of eschatology is there are currently 4 major and 3 minor versions.
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Dispensational Premillennialism says that there will be a rapture, then the tribulation, another rapture and then the millenium. This is the newest and today the most popular.
Pre Premillennialism has the same but no rapture before the tribulation.
Amillennialism They believe that the Kingdom of God is present in the world today through the presence of the the heavenly reign of Christ, the Bible, the Holy Spirit and Christianity. Both good and evil will continue in the world until the current Church Age ends suddenly as Christ returns to the sky above the earth. The Rapture follows. This is the earliest view of Christians.
Postmillennialism that view of last things which holds that the kingdom of God is now being extended in the world through the preaching of the gospel and the saving work of the Holy Spirit, that the world eventually is to be Christianized, and that the return of Christ will occur at the close of a long period of righteousness and peace, commonly called the millennium.
These views all have a basis in the Bible and also have problems. I have looked at these views and what the bible says and have became a pan mil. I believe it will all pan out in the end. These views can be argued back and forth and people dig into them and will not budge while others will be swayed by the arguments.
If expert theologians have this much trouble figuring out what these very symbolic books mean for the future why would anyone believe they can know what the future holds. I have seen many people and writings say they know but every one has failed. These prophecies are hidden from us as to what they mean according to Revelation. We will know after the fact.
It can be fun to talk about these things but do not get too serious about the details.
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slate3 months, 3 weeks ago
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The other passage to which you refer is 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18. Actually, the thought begins in verse 14. “For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not precede them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words.”
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Other than the phrase “caught up,” which you pointed out, I find no rapture mentioned in this passage. That is, I find no reference to anyone being removed from earth before the end of the world, when all will be taken. That is actually the point of this passage. Apparently the Thessalonians were worried that those who were still living when the Lord came in judgement would have an advantage over the dead. Paul here simply states that the dead and the living will be taken to be with the Lord at the same time. Yes, I see the passage talking about “the dead in Christ rising, Jesus descending from heaven, and us meeting Him in the air,” as you said. But I don’t see any separation in time between some people meeting Jesus and others being left. The indication is that all the dead and all the living will be taken at once, not that some of the living would be left for a later time.
http://www.minuteswithmessiah.com/question/rapture...
It’s also interesting that many millions think it’s true and that they are on the list. I wonder what those that don’t make the grade (if it happens) and are left behind, when they were so sure they were so much better than those they felt deserved to be left behind to ride out the end of the world? -
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Sabretooth3 months, 3 weeks ago
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Yup, i gave up arguing with Mut, he keeps saying the same points no matter how many times you prove him wrong. I think he is more then just a weee bit insane, maybe he is Endoscopy's kid.
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Now just to rile him up and walk away...Hey Mut, i will put a 666 on if it gets me to my automated teller, heck, i will put one on each hand. Ok, you can go off now. -
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Mutainia3 months, 3 weeks ago
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Actually, that's not supposed to happen. According to Iran's Ahmadinajad, an ancient 12 year old, who disappeared down a well, can ONLY come back with Jesus and open a can of holy Shiite whup ass on Christians and Jews IF there is a nuclear exchange with Israel. There is NO mention of a Rapture involved. By the way, IF he was wrong about is prophecy and Christians were left behind while Muhammadans and Libs were Raptured, hey, how would there be a Great Tribulation for Christians?
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ForrestPhelps3 months, 3 weeks ago
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To: DenCuddy
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See, that's what's frightening. One day, Mutainia wakes up (from sleeping), and he finds the rapture has occurred and he's been left behind.
I'm sure he'll know exactly what to do.
I just hope it doesn't involve harming anyone.
Anyhow, I wonder if he'll show up here and post any comments. It's not like him to just post a video and not make any comments.
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CRYMTYPHON3 months, 3 weeks ago
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Why speculate about the future?
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There is nothing historicaly rare about lines
in the sand;
- and we can see what sorts will step across,
and what sort will not.
Easy example: when Hitler came to power,
and it was no more a matter of votes,
but of go along or die ,
- a holy sampling of decent christians opposed;
but most did not.
And they climbed into the police wagons with atheists
who would not bow the knee to the fuhrer;
with socialists who willingly gave their lives;
with communists and gays and literary idiots
who just could not go along.
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a man as a coward or a hero.
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Dionys3 months, 3 weeks ago
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You posted this other garbage before. It's about as valid as your warlock, UFO and Yeti stories.
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The 'rapture' is a made up fairytale based on a bunch of Biblical quotations taken out of context. While I don't agree with some posters that the Bible is fiction, the 'Rapture'is most assuredly fiction of the worst kind.-
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Mutainia3 months, 3 weeks ago
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I'm thinking that if the Rapture took place, O I'm not a Muslim, yet, desperately try to defend Islam, you'd do MORE than take the mark if Christians disappeared, but, chase down those "left behind" for refusing to take the mark. Of course, I could be WRONG here. :)
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Dionys3 months, 3 weeks ago
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Here's Mutainia speaking in tongues:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxeXTC9q8dI=channel...
Either that or just yet another example of his strange paranoid schitzophrenia breaking through his meds.-
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Mutainia3 months, 3 weeks ago
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Could you repost it? Maybe a different video that is playable? You can always play the one where I'm talking about the Warlock. I mean, hey, I haven't removed it. It's STILL there, wooly white chest and all. But, WHEN you post it to make fun of those who talk of something that sounds demonic, can you tell me what the Muhammadan "jinn" is all about. :)
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