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Posted By Mikunited 2 months, 3 weeks ago in Science & TechnologyThe Independent asked the world's leading climate scientists whether we should prepare a 'Plan B' to curb the worst effects of global warming. Their responses are fascinating – and sobering
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Natureboy2 months, 3 weeks ago
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Are you daft? Or self-satirizing?
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Do you believe we don't burn fossil fuels when democrats are in office?
This issue is much bigger than the Red v. Blue wankathon.
We humans have managed to do incredible damage in a relatively short period of time.
But much as cancer cures smoking, there are cures waiting in the aisles for us, such as peak oil, and the desertification of the planet.
Modern ecologists have learned that species which don't self-regulate generally get their populations controlled by harsh, higher-order regulators such as disease and famine. We are headed in that direction.
Our alternative is radical cultural makeover. Abandonment of economies based on overconsumption and waste. Voluntary population control. Looking to Earth rather than to "technology" for solutions. A recognition that we are a part of the Earth's living cycles, and that when we act in disharmony with the Earth it is at our peril.
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Endoscopy2 months, 3 weeks ago
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Another story that ignores the fact that the average temperature has plateaued and then dropped this century. Another fact they ignore is that people create 3% of the CO2. All of the reforms that the green people want to force on us would cut it to 2%. So those enormous financial and way of living will only bring a 1% reduction and that is in the meaningless area.
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But radical liberals just feel and do not look at facts. It feels good to be against pollution etc. so they go to the extremes to push their position. In the 60's there were major problems and they have almost gone away. I remember driving from LA to Lancaster just over the mountain and going from the brown smog into clear air. Some days looking back at the mountains you could see the brown air coming over the pass. That smog is gone. Lake Erie was supposed to take centuries to clean up had been cleaned up to the point where there is fish there besides catfish. Do these things satisfy the green people? Never can you satisfy radical liberals except to get rid of people. People are the reason for all bad things.
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DarkWizard2 months, 3 weeks ago
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FTA - "Neil Wells, National Oceanography Centre, Southampton
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Ten years ago I was confident that we could globally control carbon dioxide. Since then I have seen evidence that the climate models are under-estimating the change in sea ice in the Arctic – changing faster than Hadley Centre's HADCM3 model predicted a few years ago.
Secondly, that it is one thing to persuade one country of the need to do something, but persuading the world is going to far more difficult."
I picked this out to illustrate that there is a major problem in trying to "teraform" the planet or re-teraform as we've already teraformed through all the various pollutants we've deluged the Earth with over the past 100 years or so.
The time line for "when" we might reach a critical point could come upon us much faster than any "model" could predict. While the time line for any reasonable solution could come after the critical point has been reached.
Therefore, as any good doctor would recommend to a sick patient, we need to go on a diet, get some exercise, and change our lifestyle or we may die soon.
Unfortunately, most patients would rather die sooner than change their lifestyle. This doesn't mean that climate change will kill us, although that is a possibility, but that it will cause a "forced" lifestyle change.
And, after reading many of the intelligent comments of the scientific community, carbon reduction and storage seems like a much more reasonable approach with a more immediate impact than decades of studying geoengineering which could possibly present more problems than real solutions. -
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