How global warming sealed the fate of the world's coral reefs - The Guardian »
Posted By gamahuche 2 months, 3 weeks ago in Science & TechnologyDestroyed by rising carbon levels, acidity, pollution, algae, bleaching and El Niño, coral reefs require a dramatic change in our carbon policy to have any chance of survival, a report from the Australian government agency that looks after the nation's emblematic Great Barrier Reef warns
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gamahuche2 months, 3 weeks ago
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This story shocked me - and I thought I had a pretty realistic picture already of what was going on. When these reefs go they will never come back - not for millenia anyway, by which mankind may have already contrived to destroy the planet completely.
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Newperson2 months, 3 weeks ago
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Within just a few decades, experts are warning, the tropical reefs strung around the middle of our planet like a jewelled corset will reduce to rubble. Giant piles of slime-covered rubbish will litter the sea bed and spell in large distressing letters for the rest of foreseeable time: Humans Were Here. It always make me sad when i here things like this. Seems mankind is really takeing a toll on our planet.
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Natureboy2 months, 3 weeks ago
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Unfortunately, the flip side of this, inevitably, is that the planet will take a toll on mankind. It's not retalliatory, it's just the way things happen. Species which don't self-regulate and which disrupt the ecosystems upon which they depend eventually get taken out by higher-order regulators such as disease, famine, drought, predation.
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berkeley2 months, 3 weeks ago
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the article only alludes to the consequences of no more coral reefs. it is there that the story really lies. here's a little more detail:
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gamahuche2 months, 3 weeks ago
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beavith12 months, 3 weeks ago
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i haven't negged anyone yet, but i want to neg the lot of you.
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i'll do it.
simple. kill every third person. today. half of who's left does nothing but plant trees.
howzat?
i'm not a big fan of sitting around and wringing hands over what might happen, when past performance is no indicator of future outcome.
if you want to read about bleak futures, read science fiction. at least with sci fi, you can also read about bright futures. -
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Will13132 months, 3 weeks ago
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well i'm a diver.. we have coral reefs less than 100 yards from shore here in Pompano Beach, Florida.. i've seen first hand the damage caused by pollution and (according to people who should know) warming waters.. not arguing the CAUSE of the warming.. but it is devastating. .. Miami, Pompano, Boca Raton, Delray Beach all pump massive quantities of "treated" sewage into the ocean. .. creating a fertilizer for algae to grow on the reefs smothering the live coral..
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they passed a law NO MORE SEWAGE.. but it doesn't take effect until . 2020.. by then who knows..
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geneveroth52 months, 3 weeks ago
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Over 650 Scientists Challenge Global Warming "Consensus"
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Twelve times more than those that put their names to the IPCC report
Steve Watson
Infowars.net
Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008
Over 650 scientists have put their names to a US Senate Minority report that challenges the contention of the UN's International Panel on Climate Change that there is a scientific "consensus" on the causes of global warming.
In comparison, twelve times fewer - just 52 scientists - participated in the much touted IPCC Summary for Policymakers meeting in April 2007. Climate scientists allied with the IPCC were recently caught citing fake data to make the case that global warming is accelerating.
The self-proclaimed "consensus" behind man-made global warming is one enforced by threats, intimidation and ignorance, as highlighted by media coverage of last year's UN meeting in Bali, where skeptical climate scientists were shunned and ignored for daring to express an opposing viewpoint.......
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gamahuche2 months, 3 weeks ago
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And the grounds of comparison other than numbers are... ?
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What makes you believe that the team of 52 and the team of 650 were even playing in the same league?
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Tangent0012 months, 3 weeks ago
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"52 scientists"?
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"The 2001 joint statement was signed by the national academies of science of Australia, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, the Caribbean, China, France, Germany, India, Indonesia, Ireland, Italy, Malaysia, New Zealand, Sweden, and the UK. The 2005 statement added Japan, Russia, and the U.S. The 2007 statement added Mexico and South Africa. The Network of African Science Academies, and the Polish Academy of Sciences have issued separate statements. Professional scientific societies include American Academy of Pediatrics, American Association for the Advancement of Science, American Association of Wildlife Veterinarians, American Astronomical Society, American Chemical Society, American College of Preventive Medicine, American Geophysical Union, American Institute of Physics, American Medical Association, American Meteorological Society, American Physical Society, American Public Health Association American Quaternary Association, American Society for Microbiology, American Statistical Association, Australian Coral Reef Society, Australian Medical Association, Australian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society, Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences, Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society, Engineers Australia, European Academy of Sciences and Arts, European Geosciences Union, European Science Foundation, Geological Society of America, Geological Society of Australia, Geological Society of London-Stratigraphy Commission, Institute of Biology (UK), InterAcademy Council, International Association for Great Lakes Research, International Council of Academies of Engineering and Technological Sciences, International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics, International Union for Quaternary Research, National Association of Geoscience Teachers, National Research Council (US), Royal Meteorological Society, Society of American Foresters, Wildlife Society (international), World Federation of Public Health Associations, World Health Organization, and World Meteorological Organization."
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zzzzfacts2 months, 3 weeks ago
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The current reefs are not the first, nor the last. New coral reefs will appear in different waters. 20 mile off the Alabama coast is an old, dead reef from some 15,000 years ago. I am in central Indiana, sitting on the middle stretch of an old reef that stretched from West Virginia, through Kentucky (source of the "Blue Grass"), up through Indiana to Chicago where there is an enormous quarry taking out limestone which still clearly shows the dendrilic structure of the reef. The world changes, corals are resilient, life will go on.
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Tangent0012 months, 3 weeks ago
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"The world changes, corals are resilient, life will go on."
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"...the planet isn't going anywhere. WE ARE! We're going away. Pack your sh!t, folks. We're going away. And we won't leave much of a trace, either. Thank God for that. Maybe a little styrofoam. Maybe. A little styrofoam. The planet'll be here and we'll be long gone. Just another failed mutation. Just another closed-end biological mistake. An evolutionary cul-de-sac. The planet'll shake us off like a bad case of fleas." --George Carlin
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TonyByron2 months, 3 weeks ago
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Jeebus, I thought I was reading something from theonion at first.
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FTA:
"These are desperate words, stripped of the usual scientific caveats and expressions of uncertainty, and they are a measure of the enormity of what's happening to our reefs."
Fine. I predict the earth will be struck tomorrow by a giant chocolate ball filled with delicious cashews (Mmm).
My statement, "...stripped of the usual scientific caveats and expressions of uncertainty,..." carries the same weight as the bucket of bu!!sh!t this article serves up.
Global temperatures have fallen a bit over the last 11 years and the eco-nuts are coming out of the woodwork to scream the opposite of reality.
Lord save us from the wannabee overlords who dismiss science and commonsense.-
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Tangent0012 months, 3 weeks ago
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"Global temperatures have fallen a bit over the last 11 years..."
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People keep making this claim, but never post any data.
Here's mine:
http://www.newscientist.com/data/images/ns/cms/dn1...
I've seen graphs that take ONLY the past 11 years, and yes, they do show a slight downward trend because of the anomalous spike in 1998. Basically it's cherry-picking.
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