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Posted By Mikunited 2 months, 3 weeks ago in Political NewsIsraeli plans to authorize the construction of hundreds of houses in the
occupied West Bank sparked furious protests from American and Palestinian
officials yesterday.
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calitennflo2 months, 3 weeks ago
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I'll let Israel do what5 Israel needs to do...and I will not get upset. This is a good example how the NSC sways opinion here in the uS.The outcome is they know prior to their efforts what they want...they just want to keep us confused.
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BravoSierra2 months, 3 weeks ago
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Israelis are ungrateful ********. Go work with them some. Chat with them and they will tell you they are a democracy. Ask them if an Arab-Israeli or Christian-Israeli could ever be Prime Minister or be elected to a majority in their legislative body and they tell you they will never let that happen. So much for being a democracy.
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almos_vagyok2 months, 3 weeks ago
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What laws in Israel prevent an Arab-israeli or a Christian-Israeli to become the
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Prime Minister? I am not saying that it is likely to happen, just like in the
United States it is not likely that a woman becomes a Senator (just check the
numbers). That is because how the majority of people tend to vote.
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Thinker222 months, 3 weeks ago
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> Ask them if an Arab-Israeli or Christian-Israeli could ever be Prime Minister or be elected to a majority in their legislative body and they tell you they will never let that happen. So much for being a democracy.
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False assumptions always lead to false conclusions, my friend. The fact is that Israeli Prime Minister is ELECTED by Israeli citizens and there is no law preventing ANY Israeli citizen from beoming a Prime Minister. This means that if an Israeli Arab is elected he/she WILL become a Prime Minister. -
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almos_vagyok2 months, 3 weeks ago
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It appears that there is some confusion in the minds of some people on Propeller
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as to the meaning of the word "democracy." The first definition in the Merriam-Webster
dictionary is:
1 a : government by the people; especially : rule of the majority b : a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections
The country of Israel undoubtedly fits this definition (whether or not you like the policies of
their democratically elected representatives).
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uniquenate2 months, 3 weeks ago
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Neither the Palestinians nor the Israelis are really willing to compromise, just look at the last 60 years. Israel does not want to recognize a independent Palestinian state within their borders, and Palestinians want Jerusalem (at least half) to be their capital. Would any established country want to allow, not only the loss of a large portion of their land but part of their capital, to the establishment of another, independent, country? I think not! Not to mention the fact that neither faction likes the other....
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hyperbola2 months, 3 weeks ago
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The zionists have ZERO claim to east jerusalem under international law. That you make such a statement suggests that you are either maliciously lying or are an ignorant inhabitant of the zionist propaganda bubble.
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As you begin to educate yourself (and you need to urgently), you might like to think about the fact that even in West Jerusalem a racist zionist majority was only achieved by massive theft and ethnic cleansing, especially of christians. Many of those owners still claim their property in West Jerusalem to this day.
Palestinian Christians: An Historic Community at Risk
... over 50 percent of Jerusalem’s Christians were expelled from their West Jerusalem homes, the largest single numerical decline of Christians in Palestine in history. Hadawi’s study concluded that in Jerusalem a higher proportion of Palestinian Christians became refugees after 1949, a ratio of 37 percent of Christians to 17 percent of the Muslims. The higher ratio of Christians was due in part to the fact that the majority lived in the wealthier western Jerusalem districts seized by Israel during 1948-49. Further, approximately 34 percent of the lands seized by Israel were owned by Palestinian Christian churches, and they were simply taken by force with no compensation given to the previous owners. ...
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Thinker222 months, 3 weeks ago
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> Neither the Palestinians nor the Israelis are really willing to compromise, just look at the last 60 years.
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This is a lie. During the last 60 years (actgually, since 1967) Israel GAVE AWAY an amount of lnd equal to more than twice of its territory prior to 1967 in exchange for peace.
> Israel does not want to recognize a independent Palestinian state within their borders...
No state will be willing to recognize another state WITHIN its borders (with the sole exception of Italy and Vatican). On the other hand, since 1948 Israel WAS willing to recognize an independent Palestinian state OUTSIDE of Israeli borders.
> Palestinians want Jerusalem (at least half) to be their capital.
As a matter of fact they want ALL OF Israel. Read their Charters.Would any established country want to allow, not only the loss of a large portion of their land but part of their capital, to the establishment of another, independent, country?
As a matter of fact, neither Gaza nor the West Bank are portions of the State of Israel.
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hyperbola2 months, 3 weeks ago
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The US has committed tremendous crimes against jews worldwide and especially against jews, christians and moslems in Palestine by allowing our politics and media to be abused by israel-first ultra-zionists to support the ugly, racist totalitarian ideology that is zionism. We need to start listening to real jews rather than to racist pretenders. We also need to rid ourselves of the zionist propaganda bubble to which we are subjected.
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Is it Anti-Semitic to Defend Palestinian Human Rights?
All across Canada and in the United States, there is an organized campaign to suppress criticism of Israeli policies toward the Palestinians. The campaign is especially strong on university campuses where many voices have been raised in support of human rights for the Palestinians....
This campaign is also an attack on the numerous dissenting Jews who support human rights for the Palestinians.
Canadian Jewish groups like Not in Our Name (NION) and Jewish Independent Voices (Canada) and their support for the Palestinians and their criticism of the “Jewish State” are simply ignored. For political purposes, they simply do not exist.
The mainstream media also rarely covers these alternative Jewish perspectives. However, there are rare exceptions and sometimes views critical of Zionism are published in the mainstream North American press. Here is one notable example:
“It’s hard to imagine now, but in 1944, six years after Kristallnacht, Lessing J. Rosenwald, president of the American Council for Judaism, felt comfortable equating the Zionist ideal of Jewish statehood with “the concept of a racial state — the Hitlerian concept.” ... Millenniums of oppression that preceded it did not entitle us to a homeland or a right to self-defense that superseded anyone else’s. If they offered us anything exceptional, it was a perspective on oppression and an obligation born of the prophetic tradition: to act on behalf of the oppressed and to cry out at the oppressor.
For the last several decades, though, it has been all but impossible to cry out against the Israeli state without being smeared as an anti-Semite, or worse. To question not just Israel’s actions, but the Zionist tenets on which the state is founded, has for too long been regarded an almost unspeakable blasphemy.
Yet it is no longer possible to believe with an honest conscience that the deplorable conditions in which Palestinians live and die in Gaza and the West Bank come as the result of specific policies, leaders or parties on either side of the impasse.
The problem is fundamental: Founding a modern state on a single ethnic or religious identity in a territory that is ethnically and religiously diverse leads inexorably either to politics of exclusion (think of the 139-square-mile prison camp that Gaza has become) or to wholesale ethnic cleansing. Put simply, the problem is Zionism.”3)...
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doppich2 months, 3 weeks ago
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I read this only because of the title, wondering what "unrestrained violent anger" the US has displayed. Apparently for the Times writer, anything other than unrestrained unconditional support for Israel constitutes a case of the furies.
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ettucatk2 months, 3 weeks ago
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One more misdirection from the Obama camp. He demands reinstatement of Zelaya in Honduras, he tells Israel to give up their settlements, he bows to the Saudi royalty, he practically kisses Chavez, he sends a Black Caucus to Cuba to rub noses with Castro, and he has surrounded himself with far left radical (in some cases, criminal) Czars. Who is this anti-American egomaniac?
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hyperbola2 months, 3 weeks ago
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Well, here are his handlers. The "czar" list of course doesn't include the isreali citizen who fought for Israel but not America in Gulf War I, who comes from a zionist terrrist family, who is now the "bottleneck" that controls access to Obama, and whose primary loyalty to America is questionable.
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Who are Obama's handlers?
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message81...
One would think the blacks would be all over the white house....nope
Then a close second choice would be the Muslims....right? I mean Obama is supposed to be a secret Muslim. He was supposed to be raised Muslim and Israel is crying about how bad Obama treats them.
But the truth is there is only one powerful presence it the White House and the ones with the most power are these new Czars he seems to be appointing everywhere now. Who are they? Are they a rainbow coalition of many type people that reflects the U.S. melting pot?
ALL of Obama’s leading ‘Czars’ are Zionist Jews…who come from a fraction of a percent of the American population. WITH ACCOUNTABILITY TO NO ONE BUT OBAMA, our new puppet president has embarked upon a wholesale power grab in his appointments of over 16 White House ‘czars.’
HERE IS A LIST of Obama’s leading ‘czars,’ (all Zionist Jews save one), and their Zionist agenda to install a Zionist inspired socialist system in America’s government:
Economic Czar - Larry Summers. Director of Obama’s National Economic Council. A Zionist Jew, Summers served as President of Harvard University from 2001 to 2006.
Regulatory Czar - Cass Sunstein. Director of Obama’s Office of Regulatory Affairs. A Zionist Jew, Sunstein joined the faculty of the Harvard Law School and began serving as the director of its Program on Risk Regulation.
Pay Czar - Kenneth Feinberg. Appointed by Obama to “regulate the pay for over 175 US corporate executives.” Feinberg, a Zionist Jew and Washington lawyer, worked for President Bush to prevent lawsuits against the US by the families of victims of the alleged 9-11 terrorist attacks, thus assisting in the Zionist cover-up of 9-11’s “inside job.”
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kadarjan2 months, 3 weeks ago
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Zionists have absolutely no right to be in what is now the State of Israel. They left it 2000 years ago. I would advise anybody interested in the subject to read a book by Alan Hart - Zionism, the real enemy of the jews. Is a eye opener. Then you decide for yourself.
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most_reasonable2 months, 3 weeks ago
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How many European flags fly a cross, how many muslim states fly the crescent? No one complains. Only one state flies the star of David, and the world is all in upset.
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Christians and muslims are part of the Israelis Knesset, how many jews are in the Muslim equivalents?
Every day we read of Muslim killing other muslims while they are going to pray, in their mosques, at the market, going to school.
Wonder why Israel wants no part of that?
In the United States you frequently see stories of the youth of our country picking up garbage, cleaning the beaches, restoring the landscape. Israel has a program of reclaiming the desert and planting trees.
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most_reasonable2 months, 3 weeks ago
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Have you seen the murder of arab children by the Sunnis in Iraq? Have you posted one condemnation of those barbaric acts. Did you complain when the arabs destroyed most of the Christian communities in the west bank by intimidation and murder. Did you complain when the Afghanis killed school girls and burned their schools down? Or the Pakistanis passing laws permitting rape of women?
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lloydm652 months, 3 weeks ago
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Cherev,I hate to disagree,but the Palestinians,and leftist here believe the state of Israel should be in the mediterranean.I remember Arafat designated that to be their only choice.Isarael need not fear Iran,as much as it should fear America.
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