"Capitalism is evil," says Michael Moore »
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VENICE (Reuters) - Capitalism is evil. That is the conclusion U.S. documentary maker Michael Moore comes to in his latest movie Capitalism: A Love Story, which premieres at the Venice film festival Sunday. -Yet, Michael Moore enriches himself while engaging in capitalism while he promotes his propaganda film of lies. -Looking at Moore, it's abundantly clear that he came by his rotund figure by enriching the local grocery outet and fast food joint to procure his vittles and carbs by participating in a free market economy and capitalism. Hypocrite be HIS name.
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Inactive2 months, 2 weeks ago
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Michael Moore enriches himself while engaging in capitalism while he promotes his propaganda film of lies. -Looking at Moore, it's abundantly clear that he came by his rotund figure by enriching the local grocery outet and fast food joint to procure his vittles and carbs by participating in a free market economy and capitalism. Hypocrite be HIS name.
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Gabriel-Angel2 months, 2 weeks ago
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There is that, but in a way he is telling a truth. It is capitalism that has allowed him to become such a large angry, yet somewhat powerful, man. Without capitalism, there would be no Michael Moore. It is evil, because it has created him. Anyone that hasn't seen Team America World Police, should check out the clip that makes fun of him. I'm sure if you googled it, they have a short clip of just that part.
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donald512 months, 2 weeks ago
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A real loser in a debate is the person that has to resort to personal attacks as in someone's appearance instead of the why behind the evils of capitalism, especially unrestrained capitalism that Dumya allowed!
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So, you want more depressions, more people out of jobs, more war for the war profiteers?
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donald512 months, 2 weeks ago
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In, the proof of unregulated capitalism ... are you paying $4 a gallon now? I'll bet that now big oil will not have the record profits they earned repeatedly under Dumya!
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Got Madoff too! And trying to bring big profit medicine and insurance under control too! How about repugs allowing our soldiers to be charged up to 400% on loans? How about those Siapan sweat shops that Tom Delay said was great free interprise with their forced prostition and forced abortions ( from CBS 60 minute shows). -
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Goppy2 months, 2 weeks ago
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I don't get what point you are trying to make.
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Lot's of people say things that are different than what they do.
For instance. .. ... George W. Bush got rich by getting the City of Arlington to raise taxes to pay for a new baseball stadium ... that he and his partners would then own.
That's Socialism ... and yet GW is quite popular with Right Wing members of Propeller.
Not only that ... but GW actually used Eminent Domain to STEAL 200 acres from ordinary citizens of Arlington ... that's beyond Socialism ... to some kind of Uber State Fascism.
One more example if you please ... On October 13, 2008, GW called 9 CEO's of the largest Financial Institutions in America and forced them to accept $700 BILLION in bail out money ... in exchange ... The Federal Government became controlling members of these institutions.
That, inactive ... is the very definition of Socialism ...
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I guess GW doesn't believe in Capitalism ... and anyone who supports GW ... must ... if consistent ... not support Capitalism either.
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icono12 months, 2 weeks ago
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gwhiddon2 months, 2 weeks ago
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If capitalism is evil, I'd like to know whether this anti capitalist is getting rich off of his statements and movies.
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Of course he is, he a lying crook, and hypocrite.
It's only OTHER capitalists who are evil, not him. Oh no, not him.
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awongscreen2 months, 2 weeks ago
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Goppy2 months, 2 weeks ago
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Gawd ... when are you going to drop that "Comrade BS" ? ... Look, I don't mean to offend you ... but as a Russian ... and proud of your Communist Past ... you should accept that you live in a Capitalist society ... even as the Right Wing emulate Putin's Oligarchical methods.
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I realize that ... as an old person ... with old ideas ... you miss Russian brand of Communism ... .. where the State works hand in glove with the largest corporations ... and crush the independence of freedom loving individualism ... but I can assure you ... America will never look this way.
This is especially true since America dumped the Neo-Cons.
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Striker1012 months, 2 weeks ago
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One movie I'll never bother to see. I try not to support my enemies, that is, if I recognize them in time. In fact I just threw away a movie, actually a pretty good movie, when it dawned on me it was pushing the P.C. gay agenda. My list of closed doors gets longer every few days.
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jaern2 months, 2 weeks ago
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Closed doors = closed minds. I think its fine when someone chooses not to see a film, read a book, or listen to a lecture, provided they don't discuss what they THINK its about. I have a coworker who preaches on the evils of Harry Potter. When I asked him what part of the stories he thought taught evil to children, he confessed he didn't read the book but that is beside the point to him. I told him it was exactly the point, I can't stand the opinions of an ignoramus!
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donald512 months, 2 weeks ago
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strike, thanks for showing your un-American bigotry as the only agenda from gays is to want to live in America the way the Constitution says they should be able to do!
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Wow, looking at fellow americans as enemies? No wonder you un-Americans decree revolution, secession, arming yourself with assault weapons.... and think that taking care of fellow Americans at all is sociolism! Such poor deluded un-Americans.... please read the Constitution and then ask yourself if you really are an American! You fail! -
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traveler20002 months, 2 weeks ago
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"Striker101"
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Your reaction is exactly the same as the Muslim world reacting to Salman Rushdie's "Satanic Verses" and the Swedish cartoons.
Of all those people crying out their indignation and hatred to the autors, 99,999% never read the book nor saw the cartoons (probably don't even know where Sweden is.
How can you know (???) some thing is wrong if you don't look at it.
e.g. I'm amazed how few Americans ever saw "Sicko", even though it's full of verifiable facts.
Same thing about the new movie: Have you seen it? I haven't. It didn't come out yet.
As far as I read, he is complaining about "unbridled capitalism". NOT against capitalism in itself.
Go and see the (his) movies. Than we can discuss.
Right now, you are speaking out of your ignorance, as do those people still saying the world is flat and the sun is turning around the earth................... because, well, ... of course, because they KNOW it......
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gamahuche2 months, 2 weeks ago
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CAVEAT EMPTOR!
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The description at the top of this story is only partially derived from the alleged source.
This part is NOT:
-Yet, Michael Moore enriches himself while engaging in capitalism while he promotes his propaganda film of lies. -Looking at Moore, it's abundantly clear that he came by his rotund figure by enriching the local grocery outet and fast food joint to procure his vittles and carbs by participating in a free market economy and capitalism. Hypocrite be HIS name.-
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gamahuche2 months, 2 weeks ago
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The Reuters article continues thus:
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Blending his trademark humor with tragic individual stories, archive footage and publicity stunts, the 55-year-old launches an all out attack on the capitalist system, arguing that it benefits the rich and condemns millions to poverty.
"Capitalism is an evil, and you cannot regulate evil," the two-hour movie concludes.
"You have to eliminate it and replace it with something that is good for all people and that something is democracy."
The bad guys in Moore's mind are big banks and hedge funds which "gambled" investors' money in complex derivatives that few, if any, really understood and which belonged in the casino.
Meanwhile, large companies have been prepared to lay off thousands of staff despite boasting record profits.
The filmmaker also sees an uncomfortably close relationship between banks, politicians and U.S. Treasury officials, meaning that regulation has been changed to favor the few on Wall Street rather than the many on Main Street.
He says that by encouraging Americans to borrow against the value of their homes, businesses created the conditions that led to the crisis, and with it homelessness and unemployment.
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MRCOFFEECAKE2 months, 2 weeks ago
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I wonder what would happen if people asked him stupid questions like yours?
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He's an entertainer who uses his creative talents to make points..You can disagree with every one of his conclusions, but you can't argue with his facts.
I own a company and usually don't have time to receive cold calls.
But the day I refuse to give salespeople at least a 10 minute opportunity to match my interests or needs to their products is the day I'd be as narrow minded as some of you.
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TOD3962 months, 2 weeks ago
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I wonder what Mike Moore would do if the money he made from this film was taken away from him and used to rehabilitate all of the people who were deranged enough to pay money to see it? He would then argue that it is his right to make garbage ad try to pass it off as entertainment. Very odd fellow...
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beavith12 months, 2 weeks ago
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Wolfie20072 months, 2 weeks ago
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Michael Moore invests in the stock market and at one time he had Haliburton stock in his portfolio. What has that got to do with talent and creativity? If Moore had to make movies without lies and innuendos he'd be broke and working in a McDonald's. His sells lies and half truths for a living to folks like you who eat them up like ice cream. Then he takes the money and participates in capitalism. Who is he making a fool of here? -
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MRCOFFEECAKE2 months, 2 weeks ago
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7-10 million people will go see his movie at $10/ticket.
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10 million more will go see his next one..
So, I imagine that more people enjoy his commentary and delivery than yours or mine.
(by the way over 37 million people either bought the DVD or saw the Farenheit 911 movie)
If George Bush had to run run his administration without lies and innuendos he'd be in prison.
He made a fool of all of you, and he was chosen by you!
When I walk into a Michael Moore movie I am smiling, and when I leave I'm smiling even more. That's what an entertainer is supposed to do. Only fools see America as imperfect. That's what destroyed the Roman and Greek Empires. In that light,
George Bush made me nauseous.
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jaspersneed2 months, 2 weeks ago
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Couldn't make it to the Venice film Festival, so didn't see the premiere, but if Michael Moore himself really did conclude "Capitalism is evil", it is merely another case of him correctly perceiving the presence of some sort of evil, and then misidentifying -- once again -- its source. But if he went on to say that Capitalism must therefore be "replaced with democracy", then he is the idiot I have always suspected him to be, and I will save my self the trouble of seeing this or any of his other movies, which I have yet to do in any case.
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The trouble with Capitalism is not Capitalism; the trouble is the festering, anti-productive overlayment of tax-fed parasites -- i.e., government -- that has long since latched onto capitalism, a once healthy and vibrant entity all its own, and has over the decades transmogrified it into a dessicated shadow of itself.
We don't have Capitalism. No point blaming it for something as if we actually did.
"Liberty proposes,
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ADAGUY2 months, 2 weeks ago
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The true hypocrisy of the typical republickin' appears again! Jaspersneen says "We don't have Capitalism."
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I post a comment that agrees with him. The along comes Wolfie the republickin', and gives jaspersneed a pos, but negs me for agreeing with him!
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donald512 months, 2 weeks ago
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Wow Jasper, 8 years of Dumya deregulation to give us the second greatest depresion in history doesn't mean a thing to you does it? Bring on the corporate abuse is surely your mantra - you un-american fool!
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Repugs don't vote their constituency, they vote who gave them all those big donations, big business, uncontrolled! Ken Lay gave Dumya over 500 million in just 3 elections, the Ken Lay of Enron fame and Cheney energy meeting attendance!
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stephen-johnson2 months, 2 weeks ago
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"Yet, Michael Moore enriches himself while engaging in capitalism"
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Moore won't enrich himself much with his latest "effort" - it has Dudsville written all over it. Running an anti-capitalist themed film in the middle of a recession fits a wealthy, aging baby boomer like a glove.-
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fjgalt2 months, 2 weeks ago
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Marxism is alive and well on college campuses. My niece, who just graduated this year, exhibited the old, worn-out theories from her professors in our talks. There's an audience receptive to the "capitalism is evil" argument. Sadly, there are those who will believe that government taxation of the workers to give to the "capitalist pigs" on Wall Street is part of the capitalist system.
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I hope you're right -- that this movie will be a dud. His profit or loss will be an indicator of the people's understanding of capitalism. -
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Goppy2 months, 2 weeks ago
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I have a niece that just graduated from Regency University ... that's the school where the Bush Administration got all their legal 'experts'.
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There are dozens upon dozens of these Right Wing ... Pseudo Religious Universities scattered about the nation ... their primary purpose is to quash independent thought ...
... actually ... now that I think about it ... the only requirement to matriculation is ... that they renounce abortion.
But of course ... pre-emptive war is okay ... as is ensuring that we keep children from gaining access to Health Care.
LOL ... I still smile at Regency University's theme song ... "We Revel In Our Preposterous Self Righteousness".
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cherev2 months, 2 weeks ago
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I'm usually all for helping people in their fight against obesity. It causes all kinds of problems and is a leading factor in various forms of suffering and death.
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But where Michael Moore is concerned, I'd like to encourage him to eat and eat and eat. Chow down on those transfats, Michael - you'll be doing America a favor. -
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lloydm652 months, 2 weeks ago
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Moore is evil,and a big fat hog to boot.His opinion is as worthless as a warm bucket spit.His system would require for him give many millions to the state.What he really wants is society like the soviet union had from nineteen,seventeen, where twenty million Russian lived the good life,and the peons lived like peons.All six hundred million of them.
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fjgalt2 months, 2 weeks ago
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Most people know little or nothing about Capitalism. True capitalism is more than an economic system; it is the only moral social system that recognizes and rewards people's rationality.
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CAPITALISM IS GOOD!
See http://www.capitalism.org
...the website for the moral social system: laissez-faire capitalism.-
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djn3nunez32 months, 2 weeks ago
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Laissez-faire capitalism was a failure. It led directly to the amoral Robber Barrons. The regulation that were placed on corporate industrialist have been overcome by the buying off of the representatives in our Repubic. In that way the regulated have become the regulators.
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awongscreen2 months, 2 weeks ago
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fjgalt. I am pretty disappointed with the link you posted. It mentioned that capitalism is the system that brings moral justice to the human race, letting people the free will to benefit themselves.
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I agree that most rational people will act to benefit themselves. i.e. to maximise their wealth. But the free will to maximise one's wealth manifests as greed. Social justice was never taken into account according to capitalism. This system never brings moral justice. Look at the widening gap between the rich and poor, the destruction of the environment during our period of practising capitalism. The rich, according to capitalism, has the right to maximise its wealth at the expense of others. Hardly a just society.
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donald512 months, 2 weeks ago
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...did the right overkill the French, the Dixie Chicks, Kofi Annon for calling Dumya a war criminal, Tom Daschle for calling Dumya the same? The right only supports the repugs who have proven no limit to the tactics they will use to defeat opponents! Forget watergate, Iran Contra and plamegate, actual convictions at the presidential cabinet level in Repug adminstrations with no dem equivalent?
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Even lee atwater, Rove's boss, tried to apologize on his deathbed for all the lies he propigated against repug foes!
Moore is not claiming secession, revolution, changing the Constitution and no control of assault weapons!
Funny how the party of "NO" so supports unconstrained capitalism, the same party that has given us the two greatest Depressions in history now, and how many needless wars for greed!
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most_reasonable2 months, 2 weeks ago
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The bad guys in Moore's mind are big banks and hedge funds which "gambled" investors' money in complex derivatives that few, if any, really understood and which belonged in the casino.
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Obviously there is NO PROBLEM in the minds of the wing-nuts here with the destruction of the American economy.-
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gwhiddon2 months, 2 weeks ago
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The people I have a problem with are people like Barney Frank, Chris Dodd and the like who are elected with the public trust who take millions of dollars to tilt the playing field to businesses who pay them.
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If a business is crooked, you can go elsewhere. Not possible with the federal government.
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CRYMTYPHON2 months, 2 weeks ago
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Moore is the kind of person who tells his nation
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what it doesn't want to hear;
- meaning, he is an important national resource.
If he is really announcing he thinks capitalism is evil,
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Gamahuche says he means something more complex;
that he targets ,i> corrupted versions of capitalism.
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most_reasonable2 months, 2 weeks ago
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The "expertise" on the economy derived from 24/7 FOX and co. will tell you that the the recovery from the great depression of the 30s was due to the onset of WWII in the late 30s and not due to the efforts of FDR (who is STILL HATED)by the GOP today. However looking at facts rather than innuendo:
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1932
* This and the next year are the worst years of the Great Depression. For 1932, GNP falls a record 13.4 percent; unemployment rises to 23.6 percent.
* Industrial stocks have lost 80 percent of their value since 1930.
* 10,000 banks have failed since 1929, or 40 percent of the 1929 total.
* About $2 billion in deposits have been lost since 1929.
* Money supply has contracted 31 percent since 1929.
* GNP has also fallen 31 percent since 1929.
* Over 13 million Americans have lost their jobs since 1929.
* Capital growth investments have dropped from $16.2 billion to 1/3 of one billion since 1929. -
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most_reasonable2 months, 2 weeks ago
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1933
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* Roosevelt inaugurated; begins "First 100 Days" of intensive legislative activity. (More)
* A third banking panic occurs in March. Roosevelt declares a Bank Holiday; closes financial institutions to stop a run on banks.
* ongress authorizes creation of the Agricultural Adjustment Administration, the Civilian Conservation Corps, the Farm Credit Administration, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, the Federal Emergency Relief Administration, the National Recovery Administration, the Public Works Administration and the Tennessee Valley Authority. (More)
* Congress passes the Emergency Banking Bill, the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933, the Farm Credit Act, the National Industrial Recovery Act and the Truth-in-Securities Act. (More)
* U.S. goes off the gold standard.
* Roosevelt does much to redistribute wealth from the rich to the poor, but is obsessed with a balanced budget. He later rejects Keynes' advice to begin heavy deficit spending.
* The free fall of the GNP is significantly slowed; it dips only 2.1 percent this year. Unemployment rises slightly, to 24.9 percent. -
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most_reasonable2 months, 2 weeks ago
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1934
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* Congress authorizes creation of the Federal Communications Commission, the National Mediation Board and the Securities and Exchange Commission. (More)
* Congress passes the Securities and Exchange Act and the Trade Agreement Act. (More)
* The economy turns around: GNP rises 7.7 percent, and unemployment falls to 21.7 percent. A long road to recovery begins.
* Sweden becomes the first nation to recover fully from the Great Depression. It has followed a policy of Keynesian deficit spending. -
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most_reasonable2 months, 2 weeks ago
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1935
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* The Supreme Court declares the National Recovery Administration to be unconstitutional.
* Congress authorizes creation of the Works Progress Administration, the National Labor Relations Board and the Rural Electrification Administration. (More)
* Congress passes the Banking Act of 1935, the Emergency Relief Appropriation Act, the National Labor Relations Act, and the Social Security Act. (More)
* Economic recovery continues: the GNP grows another 8.1 percent, and unemployment falls to 20.1 percent. -
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most_reasonable2 months, 2 weeks ago
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1935
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* The Supreme Court declares the National Recovery Administration to be unconstitutional.
* Congress authorizes creation of the Works Progress Administration, the National Labor Relations Board and the Rural Electrification Administration. (More)
* Congress passes the Banking Act of 1935, the Emergency Relief Appropriation Act, the National Labor Relations Act, and the Social Security Act. (More)
* Economic recovery continues: the GNP grows another 8.1 percent, and unemployment falls to 20.1 percent.
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