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Posted By Mikunited 3 months, 3 weeks ago in Science & TechnologyThe blog of Richard Black, environment correspondent for the BBC News website
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beavith13 months, 3 weeks ago
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Slightly more exciting than the concept of common baselines is the comparisons that are already being whispered with the US, which remains the single most important country in this whole process.
Barack Obama birthday rallyDeveloping countries view the current US carrot as anything but golden: too small, too poor in nutrients and stained through by the brown canker of "business as usual".
China and India are more important. they've already lapped us and offer no reduction that will cost them economically. even if the US disappeared tomorrow, CO2 growth would continue unabated, thanks to their growth.
Japanes posturing is fine. this simp, the author, wears his political heart on his sleeve. -
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Mikunited3 months, 3 weeks ago
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Japan and the EU are at least offering a large cut in emissions.
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Using 1990 levels,as a baseline is very important,a 25% cut by Japan,using this baseline,means a 33% cut in absolute terms.
I do agree that China,India and Russia,need to be enticed into this process.However,with Australia and the USA using 2000 and 2007 as their baselines,it is hardly putting pressure on them.The USA by using 2007 as a baseline are talking of cutting total emissions by just 8% by 2020.The time has come when blaming other nations,just doesn't cut it,someone needs to take a lead.Up to now the EU are leading the field.Though instead of saying that emissions will be cut by 30%,using 1990 as it's baseline,if their is a Worldwide agreement and a 20% cut if not,sounds like a weak threat.The EU should cut emissions,by 2020 by 30% regardless.
It is welcome, having a fresh government in Japan,with more progressive leanings.As well as making a major announcement on climate,it's not good having the same party in power,for nearly the whole time since WW2.
The problem is reaching an agreement in time for the Copenhagen Accord(that's if it's going to be an accord).As much as admire Obama,he is being anything but radical on this topic.Then again it is only the American right that see him as a leftist.Hear in Europe he is seen as being just left of center,but he is so much better than what he replaced. -
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beavith13 months, 3 weeks ago
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you and the environmental elite are pulling 'cut' numbers out of thin air. pun intended. :-)
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if we ALL aren't making major cuts, it doesn't matter if one bloc or another is or isn't.
its stops making any kind of rational environmental sense and becomes nothing more than a political shoving match.
i'd like someone to explain to us how cuts will stop or reverse teh warming, too. we've correlated CO2 increase with warming. how much cutting will actually rverse the warming? there is no answer to that question.
the sword ot cut this gordian knot is to drive efficency as much and as far as economically possible, further with reasonable non-economy busting regulation.
blowing up the world economy for its own 'good' makes as much sense as 'destroying the village to save it'.-
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Dionys3 months, 3 weeks ago
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" if we ALL aren't making major cuts, it doesn't matter if one bloc or another is or isn't."
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Sure it does.
If we ALL aren't Democracies, it doesn't matter if one bloc or another is or isn't.
If we ALL aren't not-harvesting-prisoners-for-organs, it doesn't matter of one bloc or another is or isn't.
See how silly your assertion becomes when addressing other issues?
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Mikunited3 months, 3 weeks ago
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It's the "lets inflate the economy at all costs"attitude,that has polluted our planet, in so many ways and now threatened our existence,through climate imbalance.
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Sustained development,where maybe people have to get use to running one automobile per family,is the way to go.Apart from pollution and climate change,this attitude of "f**k you Jack,I'm OK",sees humanity at it's lowest denominator.The "so the West uses most of the resources,thats life",mantra is plain ugly.It reveals mankind knowing the price of everything and the value of nothing.Surely the $ or £ isn't the whole story of existence!
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