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The fate of President Barack Obama’s massive health care overhaul could lie in the hands of centrist Democrats like Indiana Rep. Joe Donnelly, whose constituents seem wary of doing too much, too fast.

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    Candida3 months, 4 weeks ago

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    FTA: 'Eighty-six year-old Dona Darling — looking a bit frail but with the brisk manner of a woman who knows her mind — asked Donnelly, “How do we know patients won’t be denied care when they really need it, as they are in Britain and Canada?”
    If reform means that all of the uninsured will be covered, she said, then “doctors are going to be in more demand. There has to be a backlog; there aren’t that many doctors.” '

    I really pity Americans. I pity them because many of them are so blinded by fear about anything new that they don't even dare or care to check out the facts. No, people in Canada and Britain are not denied care when they really need it; it's just a GOP lie, or at the minimum a gross exaggeration.

    I also pity Americans because there are so many among them who are also blinded by their greed. Does this woman realize what she is saying? She has Medicare (a government health care program) plus private insurance, and she is saying: "I've got mine and to hell with everybody else." She is worried that she may have to share the doctors with those who have nothing, but she would rather see them die than to wait a bit for her own care, if that is necessary.

    More doctors can be trained, that is simply a matter of will, but people who die cannot be brought back to life. She is worried about rationing and doesn't realize that the current US system is a form of rationing. She gets her care, and others, those who can't afford health insurance or who are "uninsurable" are rationed out of it. It's not that there is no rationing in the US, it's just a question of who is in a privileged position. She is, and she will fight for it, even if it means the death of others.

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      Candida3 months, 4 weeks ago

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      FTA: 'But what about younger people who lack any health insurance?
      “Nobody helped me when I was 35 – nobody. I worked and earned and scratched and did without things,” said Darling, who worked in a General Electric factory in Fort Wayne before getting married and raising two children.'

      Yes, that's the spirit! I had it hard, and so should everybody else! What about those who can't work hard and are already sick through no fault of their own? Well, they can just drop dead!

      Once again, I'm truly amazed that those who have been lucky enough to be mostly healthy and live a long life don't realize that it's just luck that was on their side, and they could just as easily be on the other side.

      The other thing that amazes me is that a nation that is as religious as the US and where many claim that it's a Christian nation can be so callous about the suffering of others. I guess "Love thy neighbor" was somehow skipped in many people's religious education.

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        FTA: 'Souder said the bailouts of financial firms and the car industry have made voters feel “that the government is getting too big, the government is spending too much money. And the health care thing is the last straw.”'

        This is interesting. Spending on wars was OK; there was hardly a peep from anybody against that. Bailing out financial firms (still under the Bush administration) barely raised an eyebrow, and even bailing out the car industry was fine, but spending money on helping struggling Americans is the straw that breaks the camel's back. It's true that the sick and the poor are less likely to vote than the healthy and the rich, and even less likely to give campaign contributions, but aren't politicians supposed to represent the people? All people?

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          FTA: "Souder voted for the auto bailout — one of only 32 House Republicans to do so — because there’s a Chevrolet Silverado pickup truck plant and car parts firms throughout his district."

          Right. Self-interest above principles. Doesn't he have poor and uninsured people in his district?

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            Candida3 months, 4 weeks ago

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            FTA: 'Fear of what?
            “Fear of spending of all of our children’s money, all of our grandchildren’s money,” he replied. “People see that — they know we cannot keep this up.” '

            After the unnecessary and illegal wars, running the economy into the ground, the bailout of the irresponsible financial industry and the big car makers, now they are worried that health care will spend their children's and grandchildren's money? At least they get something back for the health care dollars.

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