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Posted By TechnologyExpert 2 months, 1 week ago in NewsNearly 45,000 deaths a year in the U.S. are associated with lack of health insurance, up from a previous estimate of about 18,000, according to a new study by Harvard researchers.
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beavith12 months, 1 week ago
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the first thing that i'd do is crack down on drunken driving. i mean, if this is about saving lives...
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how convenient that it 'proves' that being uninsured is bad.
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The National Center for Policy Analysis, a Washington think tank that backs a free-market approach to health care, said researchers overstated the death risk and did not track how long subjects were uninsured.
Woolhandler said that while Physicians for a National Health Program supports government-backed coverage, the Harvard study's six researchers closely followed the methodology used in the 1993 study conducted by researchers in the federal government as well as the University of Rochester in New York.
just because it followed a previous study, doesn't mean that previouys study didn't have flawed assumptions.
of course it disregards folks at 65 on up because now they are insured by medicare. did any of their problems go away at that point?
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ybdogsct2 months, 1 week ago
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BEAVITH:
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the first thing that i'd do is crack down on drunken driving. i mean, if this is about saving lives...
http://www.propeller.com/story/2009/09/17/no-healt...
"We're losing more Americans every day because of inaction ... than drunk driving and homicide combined," Dr. David Himmelstein, a co-author of the study and an associate professor of medicine at Harvard, said in an interview with Reuters.
BEAVITH:
"just because it followed a previous study, doesn't mean that previouys study didn't have flawed assumptions."
It does demonstrate that the authors made a genuine attempt to avoid having personal biases influence the study.
BEAVITH:
"i'm not buying it."
Of course, not. After all, you didn't even bother to read the original paper before forming your own conclusions. You've simply adopted the views of the National Center for Policy Analysis and allowed them to do your thinking for you because their political views agree with your own, while discarding the conclusions of the study because it conflicts with your partisan perspective of the world.
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Endoscopy2 months, 1 week ago
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Liberals always try to play the blame game. That only believe what they want to believe. The facts that there is health care for free for people is ignored and downplayed and at worst said to be a lie. the fact that people die with insurance means nothing to them. They will try to blame it on the insurance company not the person not getting the help they need. It always has to be the greed factor for them. Garbage in garbage out (GIGO) is the term in the software industry. That means that if you do not put in the correct information you will get erroneous results. These studies have that same problem. But lets turn a blind eye to that.
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The biggest question to be asked in each of these cases is did the person seek and was refused medical help. Without that being the case then the study is worthless.
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miklkit2 months, 1 week ago
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That is around 14,000 more deaths than are caused by automotive accidents. Per year. In 20 years of fighting in Vietnam we lost around 57,000 men. Our "health" industry losses 45,000 per year. The economic costs of dealing with all of these deaths has to be staggering.
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Endoscopy2 months, 1 week ago
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What is left out of these statistics? The biggest problem is that people can get health care if they want it. Emergency rooms are being crowded by the people going there and getting free health care. There are also free health care clinics run by states and also doctors associations that have doctors giving some of their time for free in clinics they create. With this available to people why is it the fault of the insurance companies? There are people who have health insurance that avoid going to a doctor until it is too late. Whose fault is that?
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I had a friend that had a big warning sign that a heart attack was immanent and he ignored it. He had pain in the left arm going down to his two small fingers. He ignored it and died at a Boy Scout camp while driving a tractor a few days later. My brother-in-law died after having a small heart attack and refusing to get medical attention when the ambulance came. He went out later that day and was chasing an animal and came in and fell on the floor. He was then taken to the hospital and died there. So how is the insurance to blame for them? -
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