Leading Global Warming Proponent Admits Earth is Cooling »
Posted By pc25 2 months ago in Science & TechnologyOne of the lead authors of the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), Prof. Mojib Latif of Germany's Leibniz Institute, has admitted the Earth is entering a one to two decade cooling period. You haven't seen this reported in the mainstream media because they are too interested in shilling for the global warming crowd. They don't want to report this "inconvenient truth." BBC blogger Tom Feilden brings it home in this excerpt.
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pc252 months ago
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http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2009/09/top-un-i...
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TOP UN IPCC SCIENTIST: IT'S GOING TO GET COOLER - NATURALLY, (AND THE RECENT WARMING WAS AT LEAST PARTLY NATURAL, TOO)!
Forecasts of climate change are about to go seriously out of kilter. One of the world's top climate modellers said Thursday we could be about to enter "one or even two decades during which temperatures cool. ...
... Few climate scientists go as far as Latif, an author for the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. But more and more agree that the short-term prognosis for climate change is much less certain than once thought.
Nature vs humans
This is bad timing. ...
... Latif predicted that in the next few years a natural cooling trend would dominate over warming caused by humans. The cooling would be down to cyclical changes to ocean currents and temperatures in the North Atlantic, a feature known as the North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO).
Breaking with climate-change orthodoxy, he said NAO cycles were probably responsible for some of the strong global warming seen in the past three decades. "But how much? The jury is still out," he told the conference. The NAO is now moving into a colder phase.-
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bossman1012 months ago
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Cap and trade is NOT about saving the environment; it’s about slapping a huge tax on everyone, rich and poor alike. Obama needs the hundreds of billions in revenues to fund his programs. Everyone will be affected through skyrocketing utility bills, higher gas prices, and more unemployment, as companies move their factories overseas to escape the tax burden. Hardly a wise move in a stagnant economy!
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I'm against dumping mercury and other toxins into our water, allowing factories to belch excessive smoke into the air, and cutting down all the rain forests. However, cap-and-trade is based on bogus science that assumes CO2 is a pollutant, when that premise has never been proven.
The fact is, all plant life on earth NEEDS carbon dioxide to survive. Plants take in CO2 and release oxygen. Mammals take in oxygen and release CO2. Thus, carbon dioxide is a naturally occurring gas that is necessary to life. Its connection to pollution is completely false.
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antibrainwasher2 months ago
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Obviously, the ice of both poles is dramatically melting, and sea levels are rising, but the liars and filth of the party of greed, the party of make the rich richer at any cost, will dig under any rock to find their piece of crap distorted evidence to support keeping the money and power in the hands of petroleum industry, where the lying cowards are making their money.
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Its like finding evidence for creationism. Its pathetic, and proponents are pathetic and their arguements are distortions and outright lies.
So, sit back and enjoy the latest repug reach-around, ride the wave of spinning Rovian crap, by the same people who brought you deathers, birthers, Caribu Barbie voters. -
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gwhiddon2 months ago
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I'm starting to think that the MSM is waiting until Fox gets news out, then follows suit so they can tell Obama:
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"Well, we couldn't ignore it anymore, everyone in the country already knows it. We'll play it down for you - you aren't mad are you?" -
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Wolfie20072 months ago
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Somebody needs to send this information to the White House. Obama sounded as wacky as Imanutjob and Kadaffy the way he was carrying in his speech about drought, famine, pestilence and the earth becoming uninhabitable. Heck, he is as wacky as the other two the only difference is he's most arrogant.
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calitennflo2 months ago
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_European_heat_wa...
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calitennflo2 months ago
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_European_heat_wa...
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Wolfie20072 months ago
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Btw, I notice the on Propped icon that there has been one drop of this article but on the right side of the page it says, "No one has dropped this story" do we have ghost droppers on Propeller these days? Now there are two drops but still nothing on the right side.
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bossman1012 months ago
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The inconvenient truth about Al Gore's Movie: An Inconvenient Truth
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Nearly every significant statement Gore makes regarding climate science and climate policy is either one sided, misleading, exaggerated, speculative, or just plain wrong.
- the movie presents a graph tracking CO2 levels and global temperatures during the past 650,000 years, but never mentions that global temperatures were warmer than now during each of the past four interglacial periods, even though CO2 levels were lower.
- highlights London’s construction of the Thames River flood barrier as evidence of global warming-induced sea-level rise, but does not mention that London is sinking two to six times faster than global sea levels are rising.
- claims that polar bears “have been drowning in significant numbers,” but this is based on a single report that found four drowned polar bears in one month in one year, following an abrupt storm.
There are pages and pages of Gore's lies at this website.
http://cei.org/pdf/5539.pdf-
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RickyDawkins2 months ago
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Stewart is a sincere guy who believes the climatology community has made the critical mistake of assuming carbon dioxide is responsible for global warming. He mentions "experimental evidence that CO2 has not been having much of an impact on the climate," although he could offer no citations to peer-reviewed literature.
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The website contains all sorts of distracting statements, such as the fact that changes in CO2 levels follow temperature changes in the paleoclimate records. Unfortunately, Steward doesn't seem to understand the difference between a climate forcing and a feedback. He also couldn't resist making a few disparaging comments about the "hockey stick" (despite the conclusions of the National Academy of Sciences the graph is sound), calling James Hansen's scientific work "garbage" and dismissing Al Gore as a purveyor of "myths." In other words, nothing new here. Same old tired and discredited climate change denial talking points
Our conversation was frustrating in that there isn't a lot on which we can agree when it comes to the basics. He simply doesn't accept the mountains of evidence that carbon dioxide is a significant greenhouse gas, and that small changes in its atmospheric concentration can have a big impact on climate. But he's not a dupe of Big Oil trying to pull the wool over our eyes. At least, not consciously. He's just decided that, after three years of research, he's one of the those non-climatologists who understands climatology better than those who have made the subject their life's work.
http://scienceblogs.com/islandofdoubt/
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Ratskii2 months ago
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Am I mistaken or is there no link, in this blog, to the article they are quoting. Posting something from a blog that has an obvious bias, when you could go and post the original article it is based on, is doing propeller readers a disservice
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I'd be really interested in Prof. Latif's reason. If the other cycles are temporarily suppressing the effects of global warming, than there will be major problems after those natural cycles turn around. Global warming could come back at a much greater and faster level.-
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chevydog2 months ago
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Yeah, that's possible theoretically. Or alternatively, we could discover a factor that none of the models takes into account; and its actions could prevent any further warming from happening. Or by that time the normal secular cycle may take you into cooling. Pay your money and take your choice. I've never been quite convinced that we know enough to say anything authoritatively.
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IF you believe the good professor and IF the models are good, the one thing that this does for sure is give you time. That's good for some things, bad for others. In the auto world, nobody will stop looking for better tires or more efficient drive trains; but it may slow down research on all-electric vehicles. The same holds for other areas.
One thing that's always bugged me about this incarnation of "green" thinking is the crisis atmosphere. Crises tend to produce poor decisions. Slowing down and getting a chance to think methodically should give us better results in the long run.
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ForrestPhelps2 months ago
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Goodness gracious. This was too easy.
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For all the posters who have gone before me (and I have given pos's to, in the spirit of the upside-downess of this article). Here's why:
http://thingsbreak.wordpress.com/2009/09/11/of-mol...
It takes less than 1 minute to google Prof. Latif find out the truth, then a few minutes to read the article and see that (as much as you want it to be) this isn't a scientist changing from believing in global warming to one who now doesn't.
Heck, let's even prop the story to make sure everyone has an opportunity to read what the Professor really was talking about.-
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fjgalt2 months ago
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Yes, the claim is that global warming is taking a break and will resume in 10 or 20 years.
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But, that has been the trend for the last century. It warmed during the first forty years of the 20th century, cooled for about thirty years, then warmed for about 30 years, now it's cooling again. Duh! No mystery. Carbon dioxide levels were lower when it warmed and higher when it cooled.
For the long-term, the Earth is warming gradually, as is expected from the time of the Little Ice Age. It was warmer during the Medieval Warm Period and we may get to that level. But it's within normal levels.
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mesodude2 months ago
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"One of the lead authors of the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), Prof. Mojib Latif of Germany's Leibniz Institute, has admitted the Earth is entering a one to two decade cooling period."
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--OMG. If true this is astonishing news--because if cons can find one or two sources supporting *their* point of view, then *that* (and not the OVERWHELMING majority's point of view) must be THE definitive answer. Who needs consensus anyway? This is the blockbuster development which settles the question once and for all. ROTFLMAO ;-x-
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BB642 months ago
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Actually there are many who asked to see the "proof" but then backed off because of grants. In major universities, it's not unusual to have grants canceled or cut back if you fail to tow the current political policies. In the UW system it happens regularly. Funny how when Bush was accused of this the media went all ape poopy but when the Warming bleivers do the same thing it's ignored or they claim it's racism to ask. When ever I hear claims of racism or hate crimes, I tend to figure there's a scam someone on the left doesn't want made public. Acorn is a great example. I suspect Global Warming is also.
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jaspersneed2 months ago
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Hope this guy is right, because it can't come too soon. I live in an older (1920s) apt building with no central air, just window hangers, and the unit in my living room is out, so I'm sitting here sweltering right now, even though it's almost 8 pm. Ridiculous. I was getting all set to do my part and buy a Prius, then this latest news shows up. What to do? Fix the AC and wait, I guess.
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deathray2 months ago
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and yet, there are the chinese committing to carbon reduction, trumping anything that the us might say or plan, at the very same united nations, today...
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because we have people like pc25 who obfuscate and sow dissent and disinformation, and making the us seem like we can't get anything worthwhile done.
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beavith12 months ago
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the chinese are committing to reducing their growth in carbon emissions.
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that's not the same thing as carbon reduction.
their desire to plant vast amounts of trees are a means to stop their dust bowl-style soil loss and to preserve their aquifers.
stuff like using reneweables has the economic benefit of making sure the chinese industry has a hand in any economic growth around the world from carbon reduction technologies, like windmills, that are manufacturing intense.
you see the same thing with their desire to build high end large aircraft and nuclear plants.
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Tasine2 months ago
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Are you concerned about what people at the UN will think about us "backward" Americans? That is the UN which is composed of some of the worst examples of humanity on the earth. That is the UN xho does nothing but talk, never does anything actually positive for mankind. What is this love affair with an organization that we subsidize so that it can sit on our soil and belittle us about most everything, and with many members who would annihilate the US given the chance. And you are worried what they will think of us?! Do you live in America?
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wtagg2 months ago
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""The strong warming effect that we experienced during the last decades will be interrupted. Temperatures will be more or less steady for some years, and thereafter will pickup again and continue to warm"."
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This quote doesn't really seem to indicate anything more than a continuing long term trend. Both sides tend to look at data is very short periods of time when the obvious need is to consider long periods to determine the true trend. Looking a small amounts of data tends to only be used to bolster one's opinion and position. -
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BB642 months ago
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I find it interesting the church of Global Warming hasn't spammed this article with their "truths".
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For you conspiracy buffs, I've read about a theory. Picture a major American firm with product lines that simply won't sell. Let's say they're a leader in making compact florescent bulbs, wind powered generators, solar panels, and bio-fuels. Since they're having a problem getting the American people to buy their stuff, because it costs more and doesn't work as well as the current solutions, what do you do? Buy a network and get a few unqualified people to create a need for your products. "CO2 is evil and we need to fight a war against it." So your network "goes green". While going green your other items sell well, mainly because of government mandates and financing. If global warming is proved to be a lie, you're still protected because you're simply the provider of products, not the lead on this movement, Rev Al Gore is.
Gee, I wonder who the major American manufacturer is or the network might be. Since I don't want to get sued, I'm only guessing. Being a conservative, I'm not good at creating stories like the Birthers and Obama or 9-11 nuts. I would guess we're talking about GE and NBC.-
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beavith12 months ago
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i don't think its a master plan style conspiracy. i think its just political back scratching.
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a couple days ago, the WSJ had an article about how wind plant construction was way down over last year and the previous year. thier fear was that without gov't subsidy, the wind turbine industry would collapse. raw politcs has them angling for handouts.
the obvious question is: 'how can this be?' the obvious answer is that its too capital intensive with too low a return on investment. they remain PLAINLY diseconomic, no matter how much jawboning certain members of a certain political stripe complain.
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justanotherhoser2 months ago
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here is a link to what you all need to read.
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djn3nunez32 months ago
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"....a WWF study released 2 September shows. The Arctic is heating up at twice the rate of the rest of the Earth, the new Arctic Climate Feedbacks report shows."
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http://genevalunch.com/2009/09/02/wwf-warns-that-a...
Also we are in the middle of a solar minimum and have been since 2004. So that can explain why there has not been run away warming like we were seeing up till 2004. -
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Lotz2222 months ago
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The earth has gone through a lot of shizznat in its time, humans are just a scratch. At this point you can't really believe any scientists on these issues these days (on both ends of the spectrum). Most are being funded by someone who has alternative interests besides the truth.
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P.S. – Read the book State of Fear by Michael Crichton, he makes some good points on a way to fix it.-
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antibrainwasher2 months ago
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setting the bar high as you can for a con. Crichton wrote a book about monkeys with ray guns, and aliens in ships under the ocean.
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This is called evidence for morons.
Bluegrass pundit: banjo's, bibles, slave owners, tobacee chewing, inbred, toothless idiots with computer access in their megachurch basement.
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