Liberals and Civility: Why Democrats Should Welcome a Rough Debate »
Posted By Tumultuous 3 months ago in Political OpinionNow that their summer of bluster is over, conservatives may congratulate themselves on a job well done. The stout-hearted defenders of freedom declared that government could never work, sometimes citing examples of misgovernment drawn from periods of conservative rule to make their case.
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miklkit3 months ago
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In truth, there has been no better time for a vindication of activist, Rooseveltian government since the 1930s. The laissez-faire faith lies in pieces around us. Conservative dogmatism lay behind many of the Bush administration's worst blunders, including some of the monumental screw-ups to which conservative pundits point when denouncing government generally.
When I was growing up, there were two things that I was taught were bad things to avoid. Laissez-faire economics, which brought us...The Great Depression. And the far right wingers, like the John Birch Society and McCarthy.
So far this century we have had both. And we are far poorer for it. Both financially, and most importantly, morally. We have to push back against those criminals and push them back into the darkness of their hiding holes. These fringe lunatics are un American Fascists who are bent on ruining our country. Fight back!-
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corl643 months ago
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"So far this century we have had both. And we are far poorer for it. Both financially, and most importantly, morally. We have to push back against those criminals and push them back into the darkness of their hiding holes. These fringe lunatics are un American Fascists who are bent on ruining our country. Fight back!"
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You need to understand that it is not only the GOP that has had a hand in the fate of this country for the last century. Democrats have been here all along and have very few positive results to counter with the very few positive GOP results.
The left touts Obama as a means to change the role of government and a uniting of the country as a whole, yet what has he done so far differently then previous administrations from either side? What can we really expect of him over the next four years? Besides dividing the country more then ever with his policies; nothing...because he is just another politician pushing his own agenda. He's just another guy with some half baked ideas and a large group of wishful thinkers that blindly follow him. -
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Tumultuous2 months, 4 weeks ago
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Modern liberalism in the United States started to develop in the late 19th Century in response to three major problems with the Laissez-faire capitalism of the Jacksonian era. First, there was a boom and bust cycle, resulting in periodic depressions. Second, wealth became increasingly concentrated in the hands of a few, while the great majority of Americans lived in extreme poverty. Third, the upper class used their wealth to control government, limit competition, and create a new despotism based on social class. To counteract these trends, modern liberals supported a vast increase in the power of the federal government, especially to control monopolies, and to protect the rights of organized labor.
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Tumultuous2 months, 4 weeks ago
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"Democrats have been here all along and have very few positive results to counter with the very few positive GOP results."
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We sometimes forget that the social accomplishments that some of us treasure are products of the liberal movement that inspired the greatest moral and political achievements of the 19th and 20th century. The abolition of slavery and child labor; womens suffrage; trade union rights; the end of sweatshops; minimum wage; the weekend; health and pension plans; unemployment; Social Security and Medicare; the civil rights movement; food safety legislation; the consumer and environmental movement; and the pro-choice movement. Not all may agree that these are positive accomplishments, but they are progressive accomplishments never the less.
Every substantial improvement in the lives of the American people has been initiated by liberals and opposed by conservatives. -
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