Mistakes by Medical Professionals are Alarmingly High in America - What Causes Those Major Medical Errors? »
Posted By WikiMap 2 months ago in NewsThe issue of medical malpractice and mistakes made by doctors and medical professionals in patient care has been in the news a great deal recently.
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CHAM2 months ago
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Thanks Ybdogsct.
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Yesterday as my doctor came by the house to check up on my wife now that she is back home after her heart attack, we had a good session on what she can do, how she can handle the future, and how she should be careful about her medicines and how to react when she has those sure to come aches and pains.
He doesn't need to carry Insurance because of our family. I can't think of us ever suing him. For us to sue him he would have to commit some really blatant act.
We all make mistakes, but as noted above, there is a difference in honest mistakes and those doctors who really don't give a rats A about the patient. Yes there are some out there. Thank goodness not very many.
There should never be a cap on lawsuits. As long as a trial can take place in front of a jury that is. If it's just the judge hearing the case, my advice is to be wary.-
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Natureboy2 months ago
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"For us to sue him he would have to commit some really blatant act."
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For you to PREVAIL in such a suit he would have to commit some really blatant act.
Most of those bellowing about tort reform don't understand or choose not to understand the test for malpractice. The practitioner is not held to textbook perfection, just to the standards of physicians in their area. If a physician practicing reasonable care may have made the same mistake, that is not grounds for a malpractice case.
When you say malpractice, think negligence or misconduct. There's a world of difference between "an honest mistake" and malpractice.
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jordan112 months ago
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Lawsuits shouldn't have caps. Each case should stand on its own merit, as the consequences are not the same for two people. If a 30 yo man raising three kids loses a leg to incompetence, his consequences are going to be different than a man of 60 losing a leg to incompetence.
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Endoscopy2 months ago
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Therefore you like the high cost of medical health care. A lot of the punitive awards are sky high because the lawyer created a tear based crying session over what probably was bad but not that bad. Keep in mind the lawyer gets 1/3 to 1/2 of the settlement. This process is driven by the greed of the lawyers. They take cases that should really not come to trial because the win enough of those cases to more than pay for all of the losing cases. Also they only have the time and no fees involved. Their clients have to pay ALL fees. Lawyers had that put into the law.
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mesodude2 months ago
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I think before we decide we need tort reform we should ask ourselves why "socialist" countries (where there are no sleazy for-profit insurance companies which can ration health care, and cancel policies on a whim)don't have the problems we do with "frivolous" lawsuits. While we're at it, we should ask cons why they think it's perfectly cool to clog our courts with horsesh*t birth certificate conspiracy cases. You can bet they sure as hell don't have a problem with those kinds of court cases...
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chevydog2 months ago
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The point has been made that you have to distinguish between errors in judgement and negligance. But one person's "judgement error" is anothers negligence. Amputating the wrong leg is an easy call, and can't be excused. But there is more borderline stuff. A few years back, my wife came perilously close to being over-anesthesized when her appendix was removed. She took a loong time to come out of it; the anesthesiologist didn't really look closely enough at her weight (she's very light/small) and gave her way more than called for. Bad judgement or negligence? Nothing really happened, but I tend toward the latter.
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Think also that we're conditioned to expect perfection. And that anything less means that someone has done something "wrong". The chance of success lecture that you get from docs before you choose surgery is often discounted.
Don't know whether this is possible; but we should be trying to reduce/eliminate "venue shopping". This is a common lawyer trick. The county next to me (in IL) is famous for giving outsized awards, and lawyers are lined ten deep to file suits. Some are merited I'm sure; but some aren't. -
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corl642 months ago
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"data that was culled from interviews with 380 internal medicine residents who began training from 2003 to 2008, who completed quarterly surveys until February 2009."
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These are all relatively young doctors. Is there any comparable data culled from doctors with say 20 or 30 years experience? It would be interesting to see if the training of newer residents, as compared to previous teaching methods, is having an effect on these outcomes. -
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Nonnie222 months ago
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To have any significant change in the costs of health care tort reform is key. Proposals for cost of medical expenses + a limit on punitive damages is fair. OR the standards should be set to only include cases where harm was intended.
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There are too many Americans who see dollar signs when the smallest error is made! The health care delivery system has become a source of paychecks for people who are pleased to have been a part of a medical malpractice suit.
That old line of "to each according to his need and from each according to his ability" sounds just a little too pink for me ... of course that seems to be the direction we're headed. So it doesn't really surprise me to see it half quoted so often in this sort of blog.
I prefer "anyone who isn't a liberal at age 20 has no heart ... anyone who isn't a conservative at age 40 has no brain." -
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msdsillusioned12 months ago
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"data that was culled from interviews with 380 internal medicine residents who began training from 2003 to 2008, who completed quarterly surveys until February 2009."
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These are all relatively young doctors. Is there any comparable data culled from doctors with say 20 or 30 years experience? It would be interesting to see if the training of newer residents, as compared to previous teaching methods, is having an effect on these outcomes.
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I can also imagine that today's society is much softer, and being on-call in the E.R. for 36 hours at a time, seeing admitted patients as well as taking appointments at the practice, keeping up with continuing medical education and any other hospital-based committees, is a 24/7 job. I'd bet that many of the mistakes are based on EXHAUSTION. I agree that older docs have a better handle on how to deal with the sheer schedule of their profession, not to mention having to oversee the a-hole business responsibilities of practicing. At least that's what I've seen in my years of working with them. They seem to survive on a crazy pace, ingrained into them by college and medical school. The body doesn't recognize academic training, though, and soon all that physical and mental stress is going to take a toll. No God-complex is going to save someone from the bad judgments possible from an exhausted mind. -
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msdsillusioned12 months ago
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I agree with Meme's post. It essentially mirrors what I said about overexhaustion and overextension. I wanted to be a doctor at one time; the classes weren't hard - the SCHEDULE was. I discovered it was too stressful for the average Jane. Now I wish I had gone to P.A. school instead.
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