The Impeachment of President Obama »
Posted By Progressive 3 months ago in Political Opinion
The GOP will try to impeach President Obama on some ridiculous charge if they're ever able to get Congress back--and it's not going to be pretty, writes Bob Cesca for the Huffington Post. Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh will come up with a reason for impeachment and a way to sell it, which won't be hard—the party has already had 100 members of Congress endorse the "cartoonish" czar bill. But contrary to the picture the media is painting, the left wasn't equally "guilty of wackaloon attacks" like these during the Bush years.
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Newperson3 months ago
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BB643 months ago
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Actually, he's violated several points of the Constitution but I don't really think that would be an impeachable offense. The seizure of private industry, banking and soon health care are not supposed to be done by the President. Business should be separate as is the banking. I cannot imagine Washington, Adams, Jefferson or Franklin ever considering the health care issue. Then again, they were more worried about keeping the Brits from coming back to worry about stuff like that.
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donald513 months ago
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New, they would only do that in jest like when they call him "the annointed one" or "messiah"!
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Two examples the author missed to further validate the title was the repug instigated investigation of Bill Clinton for 7 years to derail Bill's agenda and Dumya refusing to allow anyone to ttestify to start criminal links to him. The repugs finally had to rely on a lie by bill to protect his marriage as justification for impeachment... something always excused in presidents in the past... but repugs are always trying to break new ground in corruption!
On Dumya, how about his attorney general refusing to act on congressional subpoenas... or the military judge at Fort Hood telling the Abu Ghraib soldiers that their chain of command would not be available to testify - so no links to Rummy, Cheney and Dumya! This country helped hang 11 Natzis and 3 japanese for Dumya's preemptive war and water torture while the Repug 109th "Do Nothing" Congress totally neglected its oversight mission!
Repugs don't care how much they tear down the presidency as long its a dem who is pres. They tried with Johnson too after the Civil war to also derail better treatment and reintegration of the south!! Darnit, after the war the repugs wanted to further rape the south with their carpetbaggers too!
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Progressive3 months ago
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100 Republican members of Congress have signed onto Rep. Jack Kingston's cartoonish czar bill. 100 House Republicans out of 177 have attached their names to a bill that was essentially invented as a television bit by Glenn Beck without any regard for the fact that "czar" is a nickname invented by the press, and that every president -- all of them! -- has employed policy and political advisers within their administrations. But it functions as an effective Beck attack because he knows his audience isn't bright enough to distinguish "czars" from "communists." By the way, not to be out-crazied by his House colleagues, Senator Ensign introduced an amendment to the Finance Committee health care reform bill called "Transparency in Czars." This might as well be "Transparency in Hobbits" because it's just that ludicrous.-
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BB643 months ago
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Actually, I was asking about President Obama's new level of government myself. It's almost structured like the old German type prior to WW2 or currently in the UK. They had ministers and then department heads. I asked why the President needed so many levels of government, especially when the Constitution was against this. If Beck gets the credit for moving this question forward great. I don't care. I'm tired of the cut backs and reductions in staffing yet our Chancellor Obama created new ministry positions and expands government further. I think if he wants those people to work there, he should pay for it out of his own pocket.
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CRYMTYPHON3 months ago
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There were not two million people at the 9/12 rally
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in Washington.
There were about 70,000.
So?
So never confuse noise with numbers.
Never confuse opposition with the ability to achieve.
Never assume those who hate most, are strongest in a fight.
Republicans will never regain enough seats to
impeach President Obama, for any reason.
Not in 2010; not in 2012; not in 2014.
No doubt they will regain power, as the pendulum
swings. Perhaps as early as 2016.
Doubt it though;
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BB643 months ago
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Actually, that's about the number Hannity said. ABC News reported a much larger number, that has since been withdrawn as an unreliable count.
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As for your predictions, I can't see the GOP wasting time trying to take out Obama. They will have their hands full cleaning up the mess already made to waste time. Congress will become a GOP stronghold and Obama, if things don't change will be the next Jimmy Carter in the history books. Loved by the ultra left, disliked by the center and hated by the right.
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Albmore3 months ago
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donald513 months ago
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alb, you un-americans just keep throwing it on the wall... hoping it will stick! What happened to your "Love it or Leave it"?
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Without a real reason (?).... seems i've seen posts from you where you support all those other lies about Barack.... and now you deny them? I guess you are like Beck saying he would have voted for Hillery over McBush yesterday - irratic, un-American behavior for sure!
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donald513 months ago
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cal, believe wrongly what you want to justify your third party, but the difference between dems and repugs is as simple as breaking the law or not!
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Can you accuse a dem of being a war criminal? Preemptive war and water torture we helped hang foreignors for after WW2.
Any dem convicted felons like with the repugs on Watergate, Iran Contra & Plamegate?
Any dems out a CIA agent, eavesdropp without a warrant, creat gitmo and call the Constitution "just a piece of paper"? Outing federal prosecutors for going after repugs too?
Bushies let Maddof, the Koch Brothers and for a long time Ken Lay off the hook. How about that Abramoff scandal ?
How about Ensign, Vitter, Sanford and Craig still serving while dems resigned?
Like I said, as black and white as good and evil as right & wrong!
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calitennflo3 months ago
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"Nevertheless, there's a growing conventional wisdom in the press alleging that both sides of the political spectrum are equally guilty of wackaloon attacks and conspiracy theories." I'll add +
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donald513 months ago
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yep gold you can accuse, but not prove; whereas I gave you all facts/done deals on repug adminstrations, mostly in the last 30 years (only one current example from you)!
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Still no comparison, but thanks for trying.
On Korea, you right wingers wanted MacArthur to cross he Yalu ans attack teh Chinese ans on WW2 Patton to attack teh Russians with his tank corps - what absolute lunacy, but true (per historian Ambrose)!
Since you brought it up how about BUSH I having that Kuwaiti girl lie about Sadam killing babies in that Kuwaiti hospital and his preemptive war on Panama that killed who knows how many innocents (repugs just never want to talk about the innocents they kill whether by Blackwater or our own jets/artillery)?
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Charlson3 months ago
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"Nevertheless, there's a growing conventional wisdom in the press alleging that both sides of the political spectrum are equally guilty of wackaloon attacks and conspiracy theories.
Granted there might be one or two very fringe exceptions but this is otherwise a false equivalency written by the establishment media as part of their self-conscious effort to seem balanced. The distinction is that any "fringe" attacks from the left during the Bush years weren't mainstreamed and legitimized the way the wingnut attacks are today, even though the fringe attacks from the left turned out to be mostly accurate.
On the right, we're hearing about communist takeovers, birth certificates, Oval Office dress codes, teleprompters, death panels, czars and a return to segregated buses. During the previous administration, on the other hand, the left insisted that Iraq didn't have WMD. This turned out to be true. The left insisted that there wasn't a connection between Saddam and 9/11. Also true. The left alleged that George W. Bush was incompetent. The rest of the nation caught up with the left when Katrina slammed into New Orleans, shattering the levees while Bush was eating cake with John McCain.
And throughout the Bush years -- no matter how accurate the left's "fringe" attacks might've been -- liberals were marginalized and laughed off by the establishment press, ignored by certain leaders in our own party and attacked as unpatriotic by the Republicans."-
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BB643 months ago
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Hold on. There are some serious mistakes in your comments. First, we have found tons of WMD. WMD is the modern term for NCBW is Nuclear, Chemical, Biological Warfare or Weapons depending on the branch of the military you were in. We found chemical and bio weapons. The nuclear program either didn't exist or was traded to Syria for protection of Saddam's family.
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On Saddam, he's been at war with the US since 1990. He broke every treaty he signed ad violated the Oil for Food program with the help of almost everyone at the United Nations related to Khofi Annan. So even if he didn't have nukes, he should have been taken out. The people of Iraq are grateful.
On Katrina, don't lay blame at Bush's feet alone. While it's true, he's the Republican President so everything is his fault but there was a total breakdown of every city, parish and state service. Start at the mayor's office. While he's demanding the President save his sorry city's butt, he was hiding at the Hilton across the street form the Brown center. He's demanding buses to transport people yet he left his 200 or downtown to wash away. The levies were supposed to be maintained, money was paid, why were they not repaired and maintained? Bribery. New Orleans is a city build on graft, crime and corruption. Again, instead of the president, why not ask the city officials who also own the contracting firms about that. While you're at it, mention that Katrina missed their city and the water swell was well below the category 4 hurricane their walls were supposed to protect from. Last but not least on the local morons, the governor. I don't remember her name but I do remember her doing a press conference in front of our hotel in Baton Rouge. Big convention put on by ABB and she's out in front yell how she wasn't willing to release control the fed yet, the storm didn't seem that bad.... So let's see, all leadership rolls were controlled by the Democrats so of course you blame the Republican President. You gotta give the liberal media credit when it comes to covering up for their team.
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fritz10213 months ago
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The Current Crop Of G.O.P members are a Cancer on America.And Not one member has the *alls to step in or out and say this is wrong.
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It tell you allot about the So Called Republicans Values they love to tell People about a Common ***** has more Value Honor and Dignity then the G.O.P-
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BB643 months ago
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What are you talking about? I'm a life member in good standing, that means I cut big checks to the party when they ask. No one of any real power is talking impeachment, they're asking how and why he feels he needs so many taxpayer paid for advisers. The Constitution clearly protected us from that by forcing all cabinet positions through congressional approval. Since his party controls the House and Senate, there would be no problem with confirmation. That is unless someone forgets to pay his or her taxes on a regular basis.
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As to common people, I've attended a tax rally last weekend as just an observer. I was amazed by how many showed up and how much of a grass roots effort this was. Again, as a lifer, if the party is supporting something or better, sponsoring something, I'm officially invited. This was all grass roots. In talking with many I was surprised to find so many people new to anything political. Just like a lot of Obama people were young and first time voters, this was almost as fresh to them. Many were Democrats who regretted the changes going on in government. Others were people who might vote if there's a presidential election but that was about it. Others never were involved and some never voted. It was amazing.
Oh, one other thing, compared to recent rallies, this rated as one of the neatest. According to the parks services, there was no need for the massive cleanup found after the Obama health rallies or Laborfest. Everyone was neat, orderly and followed directions. The only 2 members of law enforcement was the county Sheriff who was invited to speak and one of his deputies who drove him there. No other security was required. There were a few Obama supporters present but no one threatened them or restricted their free speech rights. While they didn't get to use the big stage, they had full reign of the rally. That many supporters all new to the political game. I'm feeling much better about 2010. For you Dems in Congress, you may what to update your resumes, you might be looking...
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Progressive3 months ago
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REPORT: ACORN OBSESSION: Beck, Hannity obsess over ACORN while virtually ignoring major corruption scandals:
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http://mediamatters.org/research/200909230032
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unome23 months ago
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Here is what Mahmoud Ahmadinejad had to say at the UN yesterday. I don't believe for a second
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that this guy and Iran are without sin however it is upsetting that most Americans will never have an opportunity to hear or read this.
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Klarissa3 months ago
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What a bunch of garbage - no one is going to impeach Obama.
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You libs are desperate to make the conservatives look bad.
The 2010 election will tell a lot. If the libs win it - Obama will continue his debt increase.
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donald513 months ago
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klarris, 7 years of repug instigated investigation of Dumya is a pretty good indicator! A US president has never been called a liar on the floor of Congress before either... repugs can be relied on to break new grounds of unscupulous behavior every day!
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jrobertjensen3 months ago
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The right wing of the country continues to dominate the news. Glen Beck is a hero in the State of Washington. Fox News has more viewers than any other news network. 91% of all talk radio is devoted to the right wing view point. The "News" business is slowly being consolidated into the hands of a few.
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We are being manipulated. We were manipulated into a war in Iraq. Manipulated into huge bailouts for AIG and others. We are slowly being manipulated into believing that somehow the President of the United States is evil and dangerous.
It is imperative that two things happen. First we need campaign reform. The rich and their interests can not continue to be allowed to dominate politics through the purchase of our representatives. Secondly, we need to have the FCC bring back some type of fairness doctrine so that we are provided information and facts that support a multitude of opinions. -
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Charlson3 months ago
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Bush signed the death warrants on our troop he sent to that illegal and unnecessary war with Iraq. And not one peep out of the repugs. He instigated the widest illegal survelance on American citizens that our nation has ever endured. He instigated a torture policy that goes against US and international laws. But the repugs cheered him on and gave him everything he wanted. The reason you repugs didn't impeach Bush was because you're complicit in his actions.
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automan9093 months ago
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Check the poles.
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Obama is sinking lower every time he opens his terrorist loving mouth.
America has woken up.
Obama is the Emperor with no clothes on.
Ohhh wait... was that racist???
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donald513 months ago
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....nothing could be as bad as the repugs cramming the Medical Prescription bill on the dems, a foot and a half thick , developed without dem input, and told they couldn't leave for the weekend until approved... with the house open until 2 in the morning until the repugs twisted enough house arms to get it passed... all those big pharma/HMO subsidies that Dumya lied about and a mandate not to even allow negotiation of lower drug prices... and it had the death panel words too!
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I bet you are wrong on not posting the Bill - that is too Bushie/Repug to believe! Well, more fear-mongering even from you Mister! -
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MisterX3 months ago
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Won't happen. Just rhetoric. As with Dubbya, if the people get angry enough, somebody waives the "impeach" flag to distract the people's focus from other things.
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BTW, did anybody else hear that they won't be posting the new healthcare legislation on the net before it is voted on? We will have no idea what we are going to get (or which orifice in which they are going to give it to us). -
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Charlson3 months ago
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Curious? No that would denote cognitive thinking and reasoning. You are one of those pseudo-patriotic haters of America that is pro-corporations and wealth to the wealthy and if you can't have it your way are willing to wreck progress and crap on the majority of real Americans.
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Icantwait3 months ago
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My Fellow Americans: I'm curious, Who's job is Mr. O. after. David Letterman, Jay Leno, or Conan, (the Barbarian)? They better watch out because it looks like he plans to start his own Talk Show with the Tax Payers Money. The way he has been carrying on over in the Useless United Nations recently, it looks like he is trying to replace any Lunatic Candidate who will become the new head of the Global Kremlin. The Real American
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donald513 months ago
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Ican't, we know greedy bigots don't care to join the race of man... they are always only out for themselves... thanks for further proof of such!
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My Fellow American: Dumya Donald51, Do you take dumbness classes or were you born that way. Hardline stance and what exactly is that regarding Mister Panty Waist. I guess if they don't follow his instructions he will spend his entire days on their television shows just to drive them crazy.
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You hear that laughter in the Background. Yeh! That's France, Great Britain, Germany, Russia, China, and all the others cracking up about O and his Hard Line Stand. He talks big but as you can see, everything he says he will do, has been one lie after another. Well, everything constructive that is the Destructive things he follows through with.
Fear Not, Dummy Donald, he will still let you stand in the front line and take all the bullets that Bin Laden or the Iranian Leader has promised to supply him with. Better get the Vest Overhauled. The Real American
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Teagen3 months ago
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Just more DNC smoke screens for the president to hide behind. Bit surprise. Isnt' the DNC the team that wants to always impeach the GOP presidents? Are they not the ones who create stories and tell them so many times, it seems to be the truth? This is a whole lot of nothing. Impeachment will not be possible even if the President was accused of a major crime. Both houses of Congress are under the Dems control. It will not happen. So now go back to your Palin bashing or another set of "experts" claiming how the ice is melting or than 9-11 was an inside job or some other crazy front page grabbing smoke screen.
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Progressive3 months ago
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The distinction is that any "fringe" attacks from the left during the Bush years weren't mainstreamed and legitimized the way the wingnut attacks are today, even though the fringe attacks from the left turned out to be mostly accurate.
On the right, we're hearing about communist takeovers, birth certificates, Oval Office dress codes, teleprompters, death panels, czars and a return to segregated buses. During the previous administration, on the other hand, the left insisted that Iraq didn't have WMD. This turned out to be true. The left insisted that there wasn't a connection between Saddam and 9/11. Also true. The left alleged that George W. Bush was incompetent. The rest of the nation caught up with the left when Katrina slammed into New Orleans, shattering the levees while Bush was eating cake with John McCain.
Some, but not all, of the left thought Bush had prior knowledge of the September 11th attacks. It's a matter of record that he knew an attack might be imminent based upon the famous PDB titled "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States." So that one was partially true.
The left also accused the administration of using illegal wiretaps, torture and other human rights violations. All true. Did Bush have business connections with the Bin Laden family? Yes. Did 100 Democratic members of Congress co-sponsor a bill calling him out for it? Of course not. -
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donald513 months ago
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Teag, haven't heard from you in awhile... but I figured it out.... BB64 is your husband who keeps sending you all the redundant right wing lies to repeat - isn't he and doesn't he?
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Hey, can't deny the average temperature at the poles has risen 6 degrees in the last 50 years - a fact, something you are really short on (facts that is), like your retired navy hubby!
Dumya did ignore his brief on 6 Aug 2001 titled: "OBL Determined to Attack Inside the USA" that mentioned the use of planes.... then he let OBL escape tora bora and over 1200 talaban escape the Senokot valley (assets already diverted to Iraq)... then finally said it didn't matter if we got OBL or not! So, Dumya is surely guilty of total negligence as well as violations of Geneva for which this counrty helped hang Natzis and Japanese after WW2. Miss your annual required Geneva classes your whole career there in the Navy?
Wow, you aren't a very good O-6 not to accept facts and reality! Dumya would have and probably did promote you for demonstrating your right wing lies.... but Barack and the US Congress sure won't promote you now to admiral!
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joeblowe3 months ago
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There is a word for anyone here who is still carping about what George Bush did: DEFLECTION. Sure, GWB committed grievous Constitutional infractions and probably SHOULD have been impeached himself, but that has NOTHING to do with whether The Barry should be impeached. Does ANYONE really think that someone who has managed to sit at that desk while the national debt has DOUBLED shouldn't be impeached? Particularly since he engineered most of it himself? (Don't quack about the first bailout either - he was standing right there cheerleading while it happened - and VOTED for it in the Senate, I'll bet. ) The Barry has ALSO taken several liberties with the Constitution and should be called to task for it.
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donald513 months ago
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Joe, the whole mess we are in now was due to 8 years of incompetence under Dumya.... and you fools haven't even given barack 9 months to correct them...
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Forget that Repugs tripled the debt in the 80s? Forget that Dumya asked for the debt to go to 11 trillion? Repugs never worried about how ineffective their trickle down economics were before - so you must be a greedy bigot to worry now!
Forget that even economists under Dumya, once he finally admitted he gave us a depression, recommended spending ( Dumya's TARP). Only spending got us out of the last big Depression that repugs also gave us!
Let's get out of the Depression as the highest priority first, then move on!
You un-American to accuse Barack of Constituional liberties that you can't even specify and validate!
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