Mahmoud Ahmadinejad revealed to have Jewish past »
Posted By ameliog 3 months ago in Religion
A photograph of the Iranian president holding up his identity card during elections in March 2008 clearly shows his family has Jewish roots.
A close-up of the document reveals he was previously known as Sabourjian – a Jewish name meaning cloth weaver.
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hyperbola3 months ago
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Oh,in this thread we will see all the usual racist zionist fanatics trying to cover up zionist crimes against humanity by preaching hatred of others.
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Everything you have been told about Iran is a Myth
http://www.propeller.com/story/2009/09/28/everythi...
Everyone knows what a myth is, right? It’s just a fairytale; an unlikely, invented story featuring toga-clad heroes of the ancient past. So when Ahmadinejad and Akef talk of the “myth of the Holocaust” they are simply – as the BBC suggests in the report I linked to above – saying that the Holocaust never really happened, and can be written off as Holocaust deniers. Except that that’s not what a “myth” is. (And I must be getting old, because I actually remember the days when any reporter employed by the BBC would have known the meaning of the word, and made some effort to render it accurately).
Let me tell you what a “myth” really is.....
So what does it mean when Ahmadinejad and Akef refer to the “myth of the Holocaust”, as they both certainly did:...
...They don't say the Holocaust didn't happen; they are suggesting something more complex than that. That last quote in particular suggests that Ahmadinejad is using the word “myth” in its correct, technical sense. .... Ahmadinejad is saying that Zionism tells the story of the Holocaust in exactly this way, i.e. as a vehicle to explain and justify what Zionists believe about themselves. When he “denies” the “myth” of the Holocaust, he is not denying the Holocaust, he’s not even discussing the Holocaust as a historical event at all. He is denying the validity of the use to which the story of the Holocaust is being put....
...So what exactly is the “myth of the Holocaust” that Akef and Ahmadinejad reject? Well, do you remember Wissam Tayem, the Palestinian man forced by Israeli soldiers to play his violin for them at a checkpoint in the Occupied Territories?.. -
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hyperbola3 months ago
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That last line sums up precisely what Ahmadinejad and Akef mean when they say that Zionism has made a “myth of the Holocaust”. They mean that Zionism tells the story of the Holocaust with the purpose of justifying what it has done to Palestine and its inhabitants. The underlying truth that the myth is meant to convey is that Jewish suffering in Europe justified the establishment of a Jewish state in a land whose population was 1. not Jewish, but overwhelmingly Muslim and Christian and 2. not responsible for European anti-Semitism or the Holocaust. Ahmadinejad and Akef are saying that this myth is a fake; that it is not an explanation of an underlying truth, but an appropriation of the Holocaust in order to further a political agenda. When they deny the “myth of the Holocaust”, they are not talking about whether the historical events of the Holocaust really happened, they are denying that Zionism is entitled to do what it does to the Palestinians because of what Nazism and its collaborators did to European Jewry. In short, "the myth of the Holocaust" says that Shoah justifies Nakba, and Ahmadinejad and Akef are saying, “No, it doesn’t”....
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...The same people who brought us the spectacular failure that is the Iraq war, would now like to try their luck in Iran... This time around, the U.S. needs a new excuse for invading a country that clearly is not going to invade us, and it’s really not too hard to see that the new excuse is going to focus in large part on the person of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Just look at the thrust of the stories about him that our news media have been feeding us over the last six months....
...That’s the new meme, to make you scared enough to support a war you wouldn't otherwise support. Once again, our fears are being manipulated by people who want a war but haven't got a justification for starting one. Last time, they brought public opinion on board with scary stories about Iraq’s nonexistent nuclear weapons and Saddam's fictitious links to al Qaeda; this time around, it's Iran's nonexistent nuclear weapons and Ahmadinejad's spurious equivalence to Hitler.
And that’s why unravelling the meaning of Ahmadinejad’s "myth of the Holocaust" is not just an obscure academic exercise. Knowing that a propaganda offensive is underway to demonize Iran's president as the new Hitler so that we can justify an attack on his country, we need to think critically every time our mass media draws these parallels between Nazi Germany and present-day Iran and consider whether this is a legitimate equivalence or more manipulative scare-mongering to lay the foundation for a new war....
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hyperbola3 months ago
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We shouldn't be surprised by this. Iranian jews are some of the most vociferous opponents of eastern european askenazi zionism.
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Israel's Jewish Problem in Tehran
So why hasn't Iran started by wiping its own Jews off the map?
http://www.antiwar.com/cook/?articleid=11394
Iran is the new Nazi Germany and its president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the new Hitler. Or so Israeli officials have been declaring for months as they and their American allies try to persuade the doubters in Washington that an attack on Tehran is essential....
....There is an interesting problem with selling the "Iran as Nazi Germany" line. If Ahmadinejad really is Hitler, ready to commit genocide against Israel's Jews as soon as he can get his hands on a nuclear weapon, why are some 25,000 Jews living peacefully in Iran and more than reluctant to leave despite repeated enticements from Israel and American Jews?
...What is the basis for Israel's dire forecasts – the ideological scaffolding being erected, presumably, to justify an attack on Iran?...
...In the meantime, the 25,000-strong Iranian Jewish community is the largest in the Middle East outside Israel and traces its roots back 3,000 years. As one of several non-Muslim minorities in Iran, Jews there suffer discrimination, but they are certainly no worse off than the one million Palestinian citizens of Israel – and far better off than Palestinians under Israeli occupation in the West Bank and Gaza.
Iranian Jews have little influence on decision-making and are not allowed to hold senior posts in the army or bureaucracy. But they enjoy many freedoms. They have an elected representative in parliament, they practice their religion openly in synagogues, their charities are funded by the Jewish diaspora, and they can travel freely, including to Israel. In Tehran there are six kosher butchers and about 30 synagogues. Ahmadinejad's office recently made a donation to a Jewish hospital in Tehran.
As Ciamak Moresadegh, an Iranian Jewish leader, observed: "If you think Judaism and Zionism are one, it is like thinking Islam and the Taliban are the same, and they are not." ...
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cjsmay3 months ago
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He is not the elected president. He is a dictator in disguise and a most evil vile person on the side.If he is smart he will take a lesson from Kadafy and Saddom husaine If not he will see the same faith as saddom.No more duck under glass and young virgins if he continues his attitude.The USA could burn 6" of sod off his whole nation in less than thirty minutes.He needs to think about his situation.
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earthlingerer3 months ago
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Dictator? Vile? Uh, have you heard Ghadafy lately, let alone understand how he saved his country in the early and mid 1970s?
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Elections in Iran were as fair as they EVER were, and fairer than in Afghanistan. Anyone who the "supreme leader" and the council allowed on the ballot were just as bad as he is assumed to be.
As far as "burning sod" goes, I hope it doesn't blow towards where Moscow gets it's caviar from... oh, never mind, that's Iran, where the gov't holds hands with China.... So, less than 30 minutes for Iran,.. and about four and one half for Israel... FAIR BARGAIN! -
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hyperbola3 months ago
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Well, that is the propaganda in our censored corporate media anyway. The kind of hate preaching that is opeddled to try to sucker Americans into another war to "protect" zionist crimes against humanity.
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New Poll Finds Strong Domestic Support for Iran Regime
http://www.propeller.com/story/2009/09/20/new-poll...
Despite persistent mass demonstrations protesting June’s disputed reelection of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, a new survey of Iranian public opinion released here Saturday suggests majority domestic support for both him and the country’s basic governing institutions.
Four out of five of the 1,003 Iranian respondents interviewed in the survey released by WorldPublicOpinion.org (WPO), a project of the highly respected Program on International Policy Attitudes (PIPA) of the University of Maryland, said they considered Ahmadinejad to be the legitimate president of Iran.
Sixty-two percent of respondents said they had "a lot of confidence" in the declared election results, which gave Ahmadinejad 62.6 percent of the vote within hours of the polls’ closing Jun. 12 and which were swiftly endorsed by the Islamic Republic’s Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. Three of four respondents said Khamenei had reacted correctly in his endorsement.
...The new survey also found widespread skepticism about U.S. intentions. Three out of four respondents said the U.S. "definitely" (57 percent) or "probably" (18 percent) wanted to "impose American culture on Muslim society". Similar percentages said Washington’s goals included "maintain(ing) control over the oil resources of the Middle East" and "weaken(ing) and divid(ing) the Islamic world."
While Barack Obama found significantly more favor among respondents than his predecessor, George W. Bush, did in a similar poll conducted by WPO 18 months ago, nearly six in 10 told interviewers they had "no confidence at all" in the new U.S. president "to do the right thing regarding world affairs." -
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hyperbola3 months ago
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And despite widely hailed efforts by Obama to reassure Muslims worldwide about U.S. intentions – notably in speeches in Istanbul and Cairo and in a special Nowruz greeting for Iranians – a similar percentage of respondents said they believed that he "does not respect Islam."
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Some analysts, notably neoconservatives closely identified with Israel, have asserted that negotiations are a waste of time and that the regime has become so unpopular that imposing tough sanctions now could bring about its collapse.
The WPO survey, however, casts serious doubt on the latter assumption, in particular. In addition to the broad acceptance of Ahmadinejad as the "legitimate president", the poll found a relatively high degree of confidence in the country’s main governing institutions.
Nearly three out of four respondents, for example, expressed either "a lot" (38 percent) or "some confidence" (34 percent) in the Ministry of Interior, which ran the election; 85 percent expressed either "a lot" (64 percent) or "some" (21 percent) confidence" in Ahmadinejad himself; and 83 percent expressed "a lot" (52 percent) or "some" (31 percent) confidence in the police.
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Thinker223 months ago
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Ahmadinejad was democratically elected by the majority of Iranian voters. This means that he is what Iranian WANTED. I'm not sure that his policy of confrontation with the world that may result in a war where millions of Iranians will lose their lives is GOOD for Iran, however.
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Thinker223 months ago
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> Is there a chance hat Ahmadinejad might be sincere is his call for peaceful co-existence among nations?
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Would you consider your neighbor to be sincere in his call for peaceful co-existence among neighbors while declaring at the same time that YOU and your family do not have a right to exist and should be "erased from the map"? YES OR NO?
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ur-land-is-my-land3 months ago
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The person who brought up this issue in Iran is the son of Ayatollah Khazali. Ayatollah Khazali is a staunch supporter of Ahmadinejad, or he was. He even went ahead and disowned his own son. His son was jailed and I believe later was released. However Ayatollah Khazali later saw the light after Ahmadinejad crossed the red line that is ignored a governmental order by the supreme leader, he ignored it for a week and even went against it in public Khazali and many of those who voted for Ahmadinejad were stunned when they saw that.
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As it is , any day that Ahmadinejad wakes up , he could be impeached by the end of the day by the parliament. All is needed is a wink form the supreme leader.
Ahmadinejad could also be "Rafael Eitan"ed by his ex-buddies. I hope this option does not happen but it is ALWAYS on the table. I much rather see him be impeached and a new election held so Iran can come out of this ELECTION CRISIS.
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