Progressive Vs. Regressive: The Right Wing Wants History to Go Backwards »
Posted By Tumultuous 2 months, 3 weeks ago in Political OpinionThe latest right wing psychotic hysteria over Barack Obama's Nobel Prize is part of a broader movement of primitivists who fashion themselves "conservatives" because they can't emotionally cope with progress.
Obama represents the reintegration of America into the international community and an effort to move toward peace, rather than conflict.
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CHAM2 months, 3 weeks ago
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An excellent post tumultuous.
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And it is very evident that the Conservative segment of our society, the backbone of the Republican Party, the Party that has led American down a trail that leads straight into ruin, that Party wants to keep things of value for themselves at the cost of the Country, the people of America, and to hell with the rest of the world.
They are the follows of Limbaugh, Jerry Falwell, Rod Parsley, Hagee and the like.
Noticed today that Televangelist Kenneth Copeland and his Religious Empire, worth over a Billion dollars enjoys a tax free business.
His stable of Cadillacs and Lexus and the like number 21. But he is a Conservative of the first Magnitude, he enjoys the finer things in life and he has induced his followers to send their pittance to him so that they can enjoy that "Healing".
Yes the Right Wing is abhorrent to a civilized Society.
That is why, I, a former Republican, now call for the end of this immoral, infamous Party.
Let my people rule. My people are not the Republicans.
I will never ever again vote for a Republican Candidate for and Political office.-
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Endoscopy2 months, 2 weeks ago
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What a bunch of garbage. Liberalsim at its worst putting false images on their opponents. Libersl think they have TRUTH. Anything that disagrees with that TRUTH therefore must be evil and hateful. Therefore it is OK to create fiction and post it as reality.
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I was a liberal when Johnson declared war on poverty. Trillions spent and the result is there is the same amount of poor today. to get money large groups have drastically changed their lives for the worse. The poor blacks used to be family oriented but now with ADC they are single moms not allowed to have a man in their apartment or they will lose their money. I had my face mashed into that while I was a foster parent in the Detroit metro area. That turned me into a conservative.
Liberals never think about what the rules they create will do the the people changing their live to get it. They do not care about the hurtful lives it creates. They just feel good about giving other peoples money away.
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Goppy2 months, 3 weeks ago
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For the past decade, I've said that The Modern Republican's 'ideal' America is 1955 America.
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A time when things were much simpler.
There were no Mexicans ... except along the border towns ... where they would pose for the tourists.
There was no questioning of Government.
Blacks were kept ... 'in their place'.
Catholics were considered 'papists'.
Jews were routinely ostracized.
Homosexuals were unheard of.
Abortions were done in back alleys.
And everyone went along to get along.
That's what the Modern Republican yearns for.
And that's why they will never .... Never ... NEVER ... be satisfied.
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chevydog2 months, 2 weeks ago
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Pretty broad brush. Some of what you say is true; but the feel of it is wrong somewhow. Think you have to put a lot more complexity in your stereotypes.
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We were a Catholic family in a small, rural, WASP-ish PA town when I was growing up. Granted that being young I may have missed some things; but I never remember my Dad, a Main Street businessman, being told or having anything mentioned about it. He was a fanatical golfer; but nobody ever asked him for a tee time before 1:00 on Sunday. Think that everyone recognized that you didn't violate that time period, whether you used it for church or not.
Regarding blacks, there were none. At that time and even up to today, there were no black children enrolled in either the town school district or the rural district outside of it that I attended. Our minorities were either Mexican or Puerto Rican, mostly working class like the rest of the town. I never met anyone black until after I got into college and then only as acquaintences. Looking back, I think that there may have been much of the almost casual racism that was typical of the time. I know it was a big topic of town conversation when my Dad brought three Indian (of Asia) pharmaceutical students home for dinner. But when the urban riot wave hit, the attitude was not really "that's blacks for you" (we called them negroes) but more "that's city types for you."
Yeah, it was a placid, kind of isolated experience; I'm not sorry to have had it. But times change and things move on. My children haven't had it. They're of the current generation, and when they were thirteen drugs could easily be purchased in midddle shool johns. For better or worse, they've seen it all. Still, in spite of shortcomings that I recognize from being older, I'm not sure whether my experience or theirs is better.
So spin your stereotypes if you like. The guy that wrote this article did. But I think that they (yours of those of your friend and mine Rush L.) miss something. There's a lot more complexity to it. I kind of think that the sooner all concerned recognize that, the better the world will be.
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slate2 months, 3 weeks ago
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You guys are nutburgers fer shure. Yeah I can't wait to get back to the good ole days of the hourse drawn wagons and buggy whips.
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Does being progressive also include making wild claims like what Goppy did? You sure do much to bring others into your way of thinking with that sort of Rhetoric.-
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Goppy2 months, 2 weeks ago
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Now slate ... you completely misrepresented any comments here.
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I gave a specific date that Conservatives have in mind to return to ... a date which included cars ... not horse drawn carriages.
Why do you make such wild distortions?
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Natureboy2 months, 2 weeks ago
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Good morning, Slate.
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And welcome to the latest edition of "Hooray for my side and poop on you!"
It comes in two flavors.
It accounts for about 80 percent of the stuff posted on Propeller under the color of political opinion.
It does keep the yokels amused.
And divided.
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CHAM2 months, 2 weeks ago
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So you contention is that Obama brought all this trial and grief to America? And he has done it in just nine months? The eight years of Bush didn't do anything but stomp on the gnats of the world, identifying gnats as those who didn't bow to Republican thinking? I have to disagree.
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I blame our Two Party System that excludes all other thinking. Once the Two Headed Monster realized that if they just joined forces and kept out all other participation, they could pretty much stay in power for perpetuity. And the worst either could finish would be second.
But to continue the ruse they had to fight like cats and dogs on the surface, but in their netherworld, they would construct framework to pillage the people our American and yes the World, all they need to do was incite Party Loyalty.
My criminal is better than your criminal and I will support my criminal irrespective of the crimes my criminal commits because in the end - my criminal is better than yours. And against all odds, it works better than sliced bread.
Slate and rwr we are enslaved by this Party Loyalty and we includes you as well as me. The difference between us is that I want to see better leadership and you two seem to want to insist that your criminal is better than mine.
I would like to point out that I will never again knowingly support a criminal politician or Party simply because I once supported him/her/it out of ignorance.
At times in our lives we all can fall victim to ignorance, but ignorance is curable by learning, where hard headed stupidity results in more of same.
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Beau78902 months, 2 weeks ago
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Gee lloyd, and you wonder why people call you racist.
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In case anyone's missing lloydm65's point and doesn't know the song, here are the lyrics:
Carry Me Back to Old Virginny
Carry me back to old Virginny,
There's where the cotton and the corn and tatoes grow,
There's where the birds warble sweet in the springtime,
There's where the old darkey's heart am long'd to go,
There's where I labor'd so hard for old massa,
Day after day in the field of yellow corn,
No place on earth do I love more sincerely
Than old Virginny, the state where I was born.
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Carry me back to old Virginny,
There's where the cotton and the corn and tatoes grow,
There's where the birds warble sweet in the springtime,
There's where this old darkey's heart am long'd to go.
Carry me back to old Virginny,
There let me live 'till I wither and decay,
Long by the old Dismal Swamp have I wander'd,
There's where this old darkey's life will pass away.
Massa and missis have long gone before me,
Soon we will meet on that bright and golden shore,
There we'll be happy and free from all sorrow,
There's where we'll meet and we'll never part no more. -
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lloydm652 months, 2 weeks ago
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I don't know how this became raciest.I love the south,My mother and her people are from Alabama,and we always referred to it when going home to see grandma,and grandpa as Alabamy.Man some of us are looking under every rock for a raciest.That has to be a heavy load,so lighten up.
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noahjw122 months, 2 weeks ago
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As a Canadian, let me give you a brief view of what the right-left debate looks like from outside America:
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It looks like it is the regressive part of the right-wing against everyone - the Rush Limbaughs are the face and voice of the conservative movement. They put forward this over-the-top rhetoric about Obama as the destroyer of America, with anyone who doesn't automatically agree with them as the left-wing enemy. But, if anyone to the left of Rush Limbaugh is a 'leftist enemy', than that covers the majority of people. I remember a few weeks ago listening to a Republican strategist give a very thoughtful and intelligent account of why Obama's health care plan was wrong and why the republican one was better. This struck me because as a reasoned argument, it was complete at odds with the majority of right-wing attacks that have been made against Obama ('health-care death campus, Obama as a far-left socialist, Obama as Hitler, etc.)
It is unfortunate that what that republican brought forward isn't the debate - Obama's health care plan, foreign policy strategy, economic plan, etc., against an alternative for each brought forth by intelligent, moderate republicans, of which there are many. Instead, Limbaugh, Beck, Palin and placard waving zealots are the current voice of the right.
I'm a Canadian, its not my debate and I'm not suggesting what any American should believe in and support. But its sad to see a great nation have one of its political wings taken over by zealots - and a warning for us here north of the border. -
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chevydog2 months, 2 weeks ago
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Yeah, that's one way to look at it. But anything connected to life changes, and one had better be prepared to accept that. I think I'd say that conservatism (small c) consists of believing that the "old days" have something worthwhile to teach us. That there are certain verities about life and/or human nature that do not change over time and that we ignore at our own peril. Saying "no change" doesn't really sit well with me. Think that we have to tune change more to human conditions than societal/institutional expectations. I'm a person first; and as a subset of that a member of society.
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