Hezbollah turning Lebanon into powderkeg »
Posted By israeligirl1 1 month, 3 weeks ago in NewsA day after a Hezbollah official was wounded in a southern Lebanon blast, Israeli president Peres said "Hezbollah has turned Lebanon into a powderkeg". There is no reason for Israel not to make peace with Lebanon But it's clear to everyone who is preventing this.
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Daylight1 month, 3 weeks ago
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Hezbollah is just an evil group which should be eliminated
The problem is Zionist occupiers and the settlers; they are the ones should be expelled or eliminated. Every country and their citizens deserve the right to resist occupation. Israel has been a thorn in the flesh and a cancer in the region and it should be removed no matter what the cost is. As long as Israel is allowed to be there with their agenda the forces like Hizbollah, Hamas, Islamic Jihard and Al Quaeda will never be silenced and they will continue to oppose any power or force. It is strange how can Israel expect to make peace while it is involed in serious war crimes and occupation?-
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Hhussk1 month, 3 weeks ago
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Every country and their citizens deserve the right to resist occupation.
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That is completely true. And therefore, Israel should have no responsibility, since they are obviously in control of the land, to accept a Palestinian state, correct? -
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Edmar141 month, 3 weeks ago
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Daylight, please tell us exactly who Palestine belonged to before the "Zionists" came. Please tell us who controlled the government of the nation of Palestine. There never was a nation called Palestine. It was always occupied territory since 70 AD. Before 70 AD it was called Israel (surprise). After 70 AD, it was a non governmental province of Rome. After that it was conquered by the Muslim invaders. Then it was held by the Crusaders. After that it was retaken by the Muslims and then conquered by the Mamelukes. After that, for 400 years before WWI, it was a province of the Ottoman Empire. Then it was mandated to the British by the League of Nations. So, please enlighten us all and tell us exactly who the Zionists took the land from. Israel is actually the only legitimate nation to exist on that parcel of land for 2000 years. Even Jordan was illegally created in 1921. The League of Nation which had domain over the area never gave the British permission to create Jordan. Britain only had the mandate to Palestine. It created Jordan on 2/3 of the land without anybody's consent. Since the United Nations inherited the rights to the rest of Palestine from the League of Nations, Israel was the only legally created nation on that piece of property. So again, please tell us who exactly owned the land that the Zionists took it away from. Please be specific!!!! Muslims really don't share, do they?
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Tasine1 month, 3 weeks ago
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I believe Israel and the US need each other, and I cannot blame Israel for actions they take against Hezbollah. As far as the PLO is concerned, there was never a nation of Palestine, Israel was legally awarded to the Jews, and they have had a rough go of it with their crazy neighbors. I think Israel has shown GREAT control, given their circumstances.
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Dionys1 month, 3 weeks ago
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Here's a map from 1918 drawn by TE Lawrence clearly showing the nation of "Palestine":
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Dionys1 month, 3 weeks ago
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Here's a map from 1890 clearly showing 'Filistin' (Philistine -- you know -- from the Bible):
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djn3nunez31 month, 3 weeks ago
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Israel was legally awarded to the Jews
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The only worldwide agency that could do that was the UN Security Council. They didn't. It was the Jews themselves who establish the state of Israel through the force of Arms. But the battle for their independence didn't begin when they declared themselves an independent state but rather when the UN General Assembly vote in favor of the two-state solution. Their war began as an exersise in ethinic cleansing of the area designated as Jewish.
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Dionys1 month, 3 weeks ago
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A map from Russia showing 'Palestine'(you have to be able to read cyrillic) from 1900:
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Edmar141 month, 3 weeks ago
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The reason why there were so many maps that were written and were wrong was because there was never an autonomous nation called Palestine. It was always conquered territory, but never a recognized nation with it's own government. At the time all of these maps were written, the Ottoman Empire occupied most of the Middle East. Palestine, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iraq etc, didn't exist as nations and there weren't defined national boundaries. I find it amazing how so many people argue about the middle east and have absolutely no historical knowledge of the region. Even the Ottoman Turks didn't know what ended where. There were no defined boundaries until after WWI when all of these countries were formed. Palestine however never became a country. It remained a ward of the League of Nations and was mandated to Britain to govern for them. By 1921, 2/3 of Palestine was taken and given to the Saudi Royal Family by the British to create Jordan. Saudi Arabia, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, etc. were all created as an aftermath of WWI and the demise of the Ottoman empire. They all became nations. What was left of Palestine after the creation of Jordan stayed under the British Mandate, but never became a nation until Israel was established in 1948 by the United Nations who inherited the land from the League of Nations. Out of the two countries which occupy what was Palestine, only Israel was established by any legal means.
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Dionys1 month, 3 weeks ago
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A 1924 Map done by the Scottish Government clearly showing the nation of Palestine:
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Edmar141 month, 3 weeks ago
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All of these only show a region called Palestine. Palestine was never an AUTONOMOUS nation with it's own government. Gaza is not a nation and neither is the West Bank. They are territories that have been occupied since their creation. Such was Palestine. It belonged to whoever occupied it for 2000 years. The last time Palestine was an autonomous nation was when it was called Israel or Judea before 70AD.
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Commodore11 month, 3 weeks ago
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Perhaps Lebanon is a powder keg. But that's no real threat to Israel. All the Arabs surrounding Israel have proven repeatedly that they are outclassed by Israel. Rockets, AK-47's, small arms and hand grenades are no match for the IDF. And if another Arab blows himself up, so what? That does nothing to move Israel. The land that Israel willingly gave up they can easily take back. And no amount of pressure from that useless body known as the U.N. will move Israel in any way.
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Edmar141 month, 3 weeks ago
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Eventually what will happen is that Israel will no longer be concerned with UN condemnations and will just do whatever it has to do regardless of what the UN slaps on them. Israel is learning that no matter what it does, no matter what precautions it takes, no matter what the other side does, it will be the one who is condemned in the UN. If it comes down to defending itself in civilian areas as it did in Gaza, it will do so and it will do whatever is necessary. In WWII, cities were leveled to the ground without regard for the civilian population because it was the only way to win the war without putting millions of troops at risk. War is war. It's not pretty, it's not fair and it certainly isn't moral. Countries have been killing civilians by the thousands and hundreds of thousands in wars even today. Israel is the only one that the UN singles out. I really think Israel is going to stop caring what the UN thinks and just do what it has to do to defend itself. Pakistan has killed thousand of civilians and not a word from the UN. Sri Lanka killed a hundred thousand Muslims in its territorial war and not a word from either the UN or another Muslim nation. Don't even think about Darfur or Somolia. Goldstone didn't even investigate any other country other than Israel. The UN is useless and of no value in the world today. Hezbollah is rearming and not a word from the UN who is monitoring the area.
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Striker1011 month, 3 weeks ago
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for 5000 years of middle-east maps history in 90 seconds see
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http://www.mapsofwar.com/images/EMPIRE17.swf
not that it helps resolve anything, but helps to understand the chaos of the centuries. All of the changing "empires" were formed by warriors with an obsession to Control.
In 1948 the UN arbitrarily declared lands belonging to who-the-hell-knows and recreated an Israel, as a country for the Jews. Does anyone that such "gifts" are never enough? I doubt that it's only the Jews, it is human nature, and the old saying "give them an inch and they'll take a mile" applies.
Yet there is no country, either named or set aside for, Islam or Christian or Buddhist or Muslim or Taliban, nor any other place solely for any particular religion.
For example, religious demagogues in America, Jews, Muslims, Christians and many others, are all battling for control in their own little ways. Watching the disregard for our Constitution bodes ill for freedom of, and freedom from, religion.
There is much that humanity needs to learn from all this. Obviously battling for boundaries and creating governments to control is not the answer.-
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Edmar141 month, 3 weeks ago
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Your argument isn't exactly correct. There are 55 Muslim countries in the world. All of them recognize themselves as Muslim countries with a Muslim religion as the core religion. Iceland does not allow immigration from anybody who is not of Nordic descent. The Vatican is a purely Catholic nation. Europe evolved as Christian societies and nations controlled by both the Church and the kings. There is much history of nations that revolves around a religious structure. And if you think that the Middle East problem is about land, you are really naive. Israel isn't unique in being a religious nation. Name one Muslim country that gives equality to it's non-Muslim citizens. Religion rules many countries and many countries consider themselves to be of religious origin and government.
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Striker1011 month, 3 weeks ago
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Edmar, I don't claim to know everything about such a complicated mess as the middle-east, and appreciate your input. Not to argue, but questions...
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The Vatican - see http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/europe... particularly the description of 0.17 acres within Rome. Is it an independent self-governing country not subject to the control of Rome or Italy? It is generally known as Vatican CITY. Does it prohibit non-catholics from being "citizens" or residing there?
Can you provide a link listing Muslim countries, please? Do any of these limit religion to Muslim, or do any of them limit residency to Muslims? As here in the USA, always and still called a Christian nation, but really not because we do not bar other religions nor prohibit their residence.
I don't feel you're fair to call me naive about this. I have done considerable study and can only conclude it is always about both land and control. Actually, before even posting this comment I was quite astounded to see that major mapping sites disagree, obviously having to weigh their view of the political situation of the moment in deciding how to draw their boundaries.
example: Somalia, a former country but now without a government, is it a country only if it has a government. It now has a sporadic attempt psuedo-government called "transitional" which in no way was approved by it's peoples, and former Somalia also includes areas calling themselves Punt(land) and Somaliland. Are there now two countries and a transitional no-man's land? Who decides such things? Obviously a declaration by the UN tends to force legitimacy in the view of some but not all.
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Thinker221 month, 2 weeks ago
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> In 1948 the UN arbitrarily declared lands belonging to who-the-hell-knows and recreated an Israel, as a country for the Jews.
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False. The UN did not and does not have the authority to define borders and "declare" countries. Id did and does have the autority fo offer solutions to regional conflicts. This is exactly what it did in 1948 when it OFFERED to resolve the conflict in Palestine by dividing the land and creating two states, one for the Arabs and the other for the Jews. -
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Striker1011 month, 3 weeks ago
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Edmar, I went off searching for a list of "Muslim Countries" and found many links. Chosing http://www.eislamicarabic.com/muslim-countries.htm... I didn't count but perhaps it was about 50. NONE of those are 100% Muslim, but some are 99%.
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Of interest was the "country" of Palestine, capitol Jerusalem, 25% Muslim.
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rosecutdiamonds1 month, 2 weeks ago
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THE JEWS TAKE WHAT THEY WANT IN EVERY COUNTRY THEY GO AMERICA HAS BEEN DRAINED AN THEY TOOK THE MONEY AN LEFT THE ECONOMY IN SHAMBLES NOW THEY ARE IN INDIA ITS ALL LIES JUST TO KEEP POWER FOR SOME REASON THEY THINK THEY ARE ENTITLED TO THE WHOLE WORLD GOD IS ANGRY AN AN END IS COMING AS FOR THE PALESTINIANS THEY ARE THE VICTIMS
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Justice4All1 month, 2 weeks ago
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Please be nice to the Jews. The occupiers of Palestine are Zionists. The Zionists like to claim they speak for all Jews but they do not. The Zionists are racial supremicists who think Palestine is rightfully theirs because their god gave it to them the UN supported it. Actually Israel is not at all what the UN supported but the Zionists take the bits and pieces that they like and quote them ad-nausiem to their benefit.
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It is extremly difficult for a Jew to take a stand against Zionism. Einstein and others did it because the Zionists whould not stand up to a powerful well known person. But for the most part it is very difficult.
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