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Posted By tehranchik 1 month, 1 week ago in News
Twenty year old American Jamie Leigh Jones was drugged and gang-raped by KBR co-workers in Iraq. [That attack was so violent, her breasts are permanently disfigured.] After her attack she was locked in a shipping container without food or water, and after release warned not to leave her post. Jamie was a long way from anywhere with no help in sight. She stuck it out. [Jones is not an isolated case.] And, after Jamie made it back to U.S. soil, where there should have been help in sight, she was prevented from bringing charges in court. Her KBR contract stipulated sexual assault allegations could not be made in court. Sexual assault allegations could only be heard in arbitration.
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tehranchik1 month, 1 week ago
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Thirty Senators voted against the Franken amendment. They all have four things in common. They are all Republicans. They are all white. They are all male. And judging by their votes, they all think gang rape is just a little horseplay among friends. Here are their names. And if you didn’t vote McCain/Palin be glad. McCain is on the list.
Alexander (R-TN)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Bond (R-MO)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burr (R-NC)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Graham (R-SC)
Gregg (R-NH)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johanns (R-NE)
Kyl (R-AZ)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Risch (R-ID)
Roberts (R-KS)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)
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jovial1 month, 1 week ago
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That's a lot of R's from the party of "NO!". You'd think that they had some, or just a little bit, of common decency. I guess actions speak louder than words. They should abolish the whole Republican party. America can do better than that!
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Endoscopy1 month, 1 week ago
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This is the amendment that was actualy made. Not what it is made out to be. This comes from www.opencongres.org.
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To prohibit the use of funds for any Federal contract with Halliburton Company, KBR, Inc., any of their subsidiaries or affiliates, or any other contracting party if such contractor or a subcontractor at any tier under such contract requires that employees or independent contractors sign mandatory arbitration clauses regarding certain claims.
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That is very open ended and explains why those senators voted against it. Not limited to sexual misconduct. Foolish libs ranting about what you know nothing about. -
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UnusualSuspect1 month, 1 week ago
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I look at the four people (as of 4:50 pm, ET) who are dropping this article and have to wonder:
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Don't they mind that a woman was raped by workers of a company that was hired by our government?
I don't think I'd want to be a woman in their presence...I'm not sure I'd be safe...
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reallypsst1 month, 1 week ago
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epiphannyy1 month, 1 week ago
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You're probably right that was "just as simple as being anti Al Franken" as their reasoning, but how can you defend that? By defending an anti Al Franken vote that favors a protection for gang rape proves that partisanship trumps everything for these republicans. And since when is partisanship to this extreme defensible in any sensible scenario?
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All this proves is that, again, a good number of republicans care more about winning than about doing what is right.
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mesodude1 month, 1 week ago
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MRCOFFEECAKE1 month, 1 week ago
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Not that I'm surprised beav, but your comments are blocked from view..
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I'm sure you were suggesting a different law that would more effectively prohibit the acceptance of sexual misconduct, weren't you?
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epiphannyy1 month, 1 week ago
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So beav....you'll "neg" me for pointing out that this argument supports embracing partisanship over doing what is right, but you won't refute my point. Or is it that you can't refute it?
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You've offered an indefensible defense for these senators. The least you could do, if you're going to neg my comment, is to defend your indefensible defense to prove me wrong. -
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hyperlasers1 month, 1 week ago
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This is perceived by a lot of Republicans as a cheap political jab at Halliburton, who's contract includes the can't-sue-for-rape clause and will A) get bad publicity out of the amendment and B) be forced to alter their contracts with the government. The justification is probably something along the lines of A) it isn't fair to make such a large company look bad over what is probably a single isolated incident, and B) it's not the government's place to influence the contents of "private contracts."
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However, the contracts we're talking about are contracts with the government. If you think that it's big-government socialism to allow congress to decide what sort of companies it wants to do business with based on whether or not those companies offer its employees protection against, say, rape, then I can only assume you're an evil robot from the laboratories of Fox News.
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dunkirk1 month, 1 week ago
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The allegations and list of the "family" values Senators from he right should be in the main stream media. Its time the right wing is held accountable for the idiotic stances they are taking. Another good example of that "left leaning" media we have.(<---- thats sarcasm in case the right misses it)
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tehranchik1 month, 1 week ago
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I couldn't help myself. I had to put this in here. Thanks progressive!
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http://www.propeller.com/story/2009/10/15/the-dail...
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tanglang1 month, 1 week ago
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Here is why I dropped this. The article is misleading and hypocritical. It also has racist undertones.
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"meet the senators who voted pro gang rape"
This is the title. Is it not hypocritical to say that voting against this bill makes you "pro gang rape" while voting for abortion does not make you pro abortion?
"Surely our Senators in Congress do not want to employ and protect companies that sanction gang rape?"
I don't think that Halliburton or any other company sanctions gang rape.
"They all have four things in common. They are all Republicans. They are all white. They are all male"
WTF does it matter that they are white???
Now, from what I have heard about this amendment I would have voted for it. However, having not read the whole amendment I cannot say for certain. There could have been another reason why they voted against it. Has anyone here actually read the full Franken amendment?-
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tehranchik1 month, 1 week ago
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Demzon1 month, 1 week ago
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To address your first point this is not truly a news article anyway; it is an informative blog entry. For those that can not tell the difference; a news report states facts about an event that occurred, while a blog in an article written by someone who feels that the information should be out there and holds a strong opinion on the subject. Most American news outlets are truly blogs and opinion shows anymore, especially Fox. This is why I go to foreign news sources when I don't want to deal with the political posturing to any extent.
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To your second complaint; you have not been paying attention to what has been happening or dismissing it as hype obviously. I would recommend going to your local library and finding the book Blackwater: The Rise of the World's Most Powerful Mercenary Army, ISBN-13 of 978-1560259794. While it does contain some political posturing, all of the information can be backed up with evidence as the one who wrote it is a good fact checking journalist. oh and Blackwater is now called Xe if anyone missed that.
The fact that those that voted this down is related as it is statistically correct that whites generally are exposed to a less violent world through out life. I will freely admit that compared to what some that I have known have seen and been through, my life has been easy; getting shot at once and all.
I would like to read this amendment myself now. It's not likely due to what I have to do in the next two months, but I will bee seeing if I can find the time and a copy. -
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wtagg1 month, 1 week ago
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"WTF does it matter that they are white??? "
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Does support matter if the votes for a particular bill are all black or all women? I think that type of categorizing is not unusual. Both sides do it. As long as you speak out against it always, then I think you are on solid ground, though I think that may be hard when it comes to certain social issues and programs within our government. -
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ADAGUY1 month, 1 week ago
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"Is it not hypocritical to say that voting against this bill makes you "pro gang rape" while voting for abortion does not make you pro abortion?"
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If you have a gripe about abortion laws, perhaps you should speak to the seven republickin's on the supreme court. (That is unless you think the other two are making these decisions by themselves!) -
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tehranchik1 month, 1 week ago
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The author of this article also says:
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"More women are coming forward by the way. One who was fired when she said she refused to work side by side with the guy who raped her. Gee, how could that possibly be uncomfortable? These guys are scary f--ks." -
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johnnyt1 month, 1 week ago
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http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:SP258...
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AMENDMENT PURPOSE:
To prohibit the use of funds for any Federal contract with Halliburton Company, KBR, Inc., any of their subsidiaries or affiliates, or any other contracting party if such contractor or a subcontractor at any tier under such contract requires that employees or independent contractors sign mandatory arbitration clauses regarding certain claims.
here is a link of the amendments proposed for the bill. i also links the amendment purpose: you can find a link to the exact text on this page. i am unsure if all the amendments are voted on at the same time or individually? the individual amendment by franken looks pretty cut and dry, but if the group of amendments were voted on at once that could have been the reason. i dont know how that works.-
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Ratskii1 month, 1 week ago
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It would seem to me that if the Senators in question voted against the Franken amendment either because it was bundled with other amendments or for technical reasons, they should have come up with a bill of there own to defund companies that engage in this kind of behavior. Failing that, I agree with the article. They are putting themselves in the position of being identified as pro-rape.
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tehranchik1 month, 1 week ago
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Demzon - yes this is a blog piece written by someone on the left.
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Bottom line - these senators voted against the amendment. No left or right there. Black and white. If there is a good reason, I'd certainly like to hear it.
As it is I think these guys protect one another all the way around.
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Wolfie20071 month, 1 week ago
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The stupidity here is that there is no other company in the world that does what Haliburton does, therefore, who ya gonna call? Truly stupid little useful idiots. Truly and utterly stupid just what I would expect from Franken. dum, dum dum
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Tangent0011 month, 1 week ago
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"The stupidity here is that there is no other company in the world that does what Haliburton does"
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WRONG! There are plenty of other companies that offer these services. But that's beside the point. Just because they are the biggest player, does that mean they get to do whatever the heII they want? -
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UnusualSuspect1 month, 1 week ago
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"The stupidity here is that there is no other company in the world that does what Haliburton does, therefore, who ya gonna call?"
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What the hell does that mean, wolfie?
Because no other company "does what Halliburton does" makes it alright for several of their employees to gang rape someone?
You're right, tho...it seems KBR is pretty much alone in the world for not following thru on this woman's case...they don't deserve any more USA business, as far as I'm concerned... -
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epiphannyy1 month, 1 week ago
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So what you're saying is that, as long as you have a monopoly, it is stupid or "dum dum dum" (ironic that someone is pointing out another person's stupidity by misspelling the world dumb...lol) to try and prevent them from breaking laws and committing violent crimes.
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Gotcha!
Wow....I wonder why all those criminals in prison never thought of that. Just destroy all your professional competition and then you can (literally) get away with murder....or in this case, rape and torture and kidnapping. -
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epiphannyy1 month, 1 week ago
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That's a false argument since that is how 90% of all things get passed in Washington. Now, I fully agree that it shouldn't be that way, but they never have a problem when it's something they want or something not politically charged (ie NOT written or sponsored by the much hated Al Franken). Unfortunately, this is the only way the smaller things ever get passed because there is absolutely no way to give everything their own individual bill. The process is too long. Nothing would ever get done. So amendments are added to bills in order to get them passed.
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What I think would make more logical sense is to have a "miscellaneous bill" for all these small items that need addressed, but aren't big enough to carry a bill by themselves. Or if an amendment is added to a bill, that it should have something to do with the bill it is being added to. But that isn't how it is done and to argue that THAT is reason enough to vote against it is disingenuous at best. Unless, of course, all these senators have also voted down every other bill that has ever crossed their voting desk and they haven't. -
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deathray1 month, 1 week ago
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pork implies that someone's district is receiving federal funds to do something that may or may not be worthwhile to that district.
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there's no pork here. because there's no money to take back to anyone's district.
the senate is entirely within their collective right to determine how a government defense contractor should police their internal activities on foreign soil. anything else is an abrogation of the senate's responsibility, and the place to restrict these activities is in the defense appropriations bill, because money is the only thing that will attract the notice of halliburton management, and the government is the biggest money teat there is for defense contractors like halliburton to suck upon.
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questionseverything1 month, 1 week ago
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http://rawstory.com/2009/10/gop-supports-rape-arbi...
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walton8er1 month, 1 week ago
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We need to pass legislation the bars any company or corporation from requiring a person to give up any Constitutional rights as a condition of hire.AS for McCain and Kyle being on this list and both being residents of Arizona, they being all for illegal immigration, it's very likely they have tussled with the seniorita house keepers a couple times.
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callmemisskate1 month, 1 week ago
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My first question would be why would this woman sign a contract before taking the job agreeing to arbritration in the event she was gang raped? Didn't she know THEN that if that happned to her she would want the people responsible prosecuted? Or was she willing to throw the dice and hope it didn't happen. As to the company...I wuold have to ask..is gang rape such a common occurrance in your company overseas that you have to put that in to protect your male employees? Are you in the habit of hiring rapist? And by having your female employees sign awaytheir rights to seek redress aren't you in effect giving the men you employee a wink and nudge....I'd forget the rapist..and go after the company. If they put that in contracts for female employees they absolutely KNOW there is a problem with their male employees and have done nothing to stop it, instead they made it easier for them to rape defenseless women. Don't see anything in that contract about holding the company to arbritration for rape and they are absolutely accessories.
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CelluloidBlonde1 month, 1 week ago
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Wow. Okay that is a post on my blog and I am just catching up finding out this is here -- and creating an account here so I can even respond to responses to the post. And this is a LOT of responses I am going to have to wade through them which could take a while. I want to say though thanks to tehranchik for posting the story link and keeping the information out there. The U.S. government should absolutely not be doing business with contractors who make employees sign away their rights under the U.S. Constitution in an "arbitration clause." And should not be hiring contractors that protect and encourage the rape of young women. The passage of Senator Franken's amendment -- not bill, amendment -- is an important step to guarantee that. Myself I cannot fathom why anyone would vote against it.
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CelluloidBlonde1 month, 1 week ago
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Okay, wading through all of this. Yes, that post is a personal blog post by me, not a news article. I am not a reporter. I am a concerned citizen. Of course that also means nobody is paying me with ads for my opinion.
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Yes, I am a registered Democrat. And a woman. I do not think being a Democrat has much to do with me being outraged by a young woman being drugged and gang raped by fellow employees. Being a woman however might color my opinion.
Bringing abortion into a discussion about disenfranchising government contractors who promote, advocate, and protect gang rape is one of the stupidest things I have yet seen on the internet. What does protecting women against rape have to do with abortion? Nothing. [Adaguy Fail]
Jamie Leigh’s experience is not a singular experience. There are more reported cases – and these are just the women willing to come forward, if women are willing to come forward, history says there are many more who are not http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/19/poe-testify-kb...
Amendments do not get “bundled.” Amendments are sigular issues attached to bills which are either voted in or out of a bill. Everyone suggesting bundling or secondary issues should go study bills and amendments right now. Didn’t Sesame Street cover this stuff?
I find it offensive epiphannyy referred to gang rape as a “small thing.”
Deathray, thank you for posting one of the smartest comments:
“the senate is entirely within their collective right to determine how a government defense contractor should police their internal activities on foreign soil. anything else is an abrogation of the senate's responsibility, and the place to restrict these activities is in the defense appropriations bill.”
Natureboy, you just called all members of the armed services rapists. I have friends in the armed services who are not only not rapists they would beat anyone who committed rape. Please reconsider your statement.-
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epiphannyy1 month, 1 week ago
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I find it offensive epiphannyy referred to gang rape as a “small thing.”
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Wow..........where did I do that???????
If you are talking about my response to the "pork" argument, I wasn't inferring that rape was anything small. The argument was made that this was "pork" and I explained how things are often tacked onto other bills to get passed because they wouldn't be passed "by themselves" is they were to be introduced that way.
A singular bill addressing this issue would likely not be passed, or even considered, in a timely manner. That is why the amendment is added to this bill rather than giving it its own independent bill.
NOWHERE do I defend rape or imply that rape is "small"........however the AMENDMENT is small. It is very important, but it only consists of a couple of paragraphs. My comment had to do with the size of the legislation, not the significance of its subject matter.
I'm sorry that I offended you, but I honestly think you misunderstood my comments because NOWHERE did I say that "rape was small" because NOTHING could be further from the truth in my mind. Trust me on that.
On a side note............ADAGUY didn't post the link between a woman's rape and abortion, tanglang did that and ADAGUY called him out on it. So that [Adaguy Fail] seems a bit misdirected as well.
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andrewturnbull691 month, 1 week ago
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Far worse things went on in Iraq than this little story .... after all it's only her word against others .... who's to say she wasn't drunk and gagging for it then was full of regret the next day? .... Never be so biggotted & blinkered as to only have one point of view ....
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On the other hand .... KBR & Halliberton employed a hell of a lot of Southern interbred Rednecks who would shag a squirrel if they could catch one !!
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CelluloidBlonde1 month, 1 week ago
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They drugged her and ripped her up so bad she had to have reconstructive surgery, Andrew. And she has fought for four years for her day in court. If that sounds like fun or "gagging for it" to you I do not want to meet you in a dark alley. Or at high noon in a public place for that matter. Go stand over there with the pro rape senators.
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