Why Fox News Is Un-American »
Posted By Progressive 1 month ago in Political News
Last week, when White House Communications Director Anita Dunn charged the Fox News Channel with right-wing bias, Fox responded the way it always does. It denied the accusation with a straight face while proceeding to confirm it with its coverage.
Consider Fox's Web story on the episode. It quotes five people. Two of them work for Fox. All of them assert that administration officials are either wrong in substance or politically foolish to criticize the network. No one is cited supporting Dunn's criticisms or saying that it could make sense for Obama to challenge the network's power. It's a textbook example of a biased journalism.
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MarkMontoya1 month ago
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mesodude1 month ago
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If you're talking about Glenn Beck, I think he's supposed to be an "entertainer." According to cons, if you're an entertainer, you're not accountable to anyone. Unless you're David Letterman and the right hates you because you ridiculed Sarah Palin's daughter (after Sarah Palin pimped her kids for political gain), you have immunity. Nothing you say (even if it incites a major part of the electorate to engage in anti-social, treasonous, and/or potentially homicidal behavior) can be criticized or used against you. You're free to speak your mind and no one is allowed to protest (because that's censorship). Everyone knows this. ;-0
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crazytime1 month ago
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It seems to me that FOX provides a platform to look at political issues in multiple ways. Sometimes ways that the other network news programs ignore.
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I like getting statistics with reasons and also with discussion.
Fox also reports things that have gone on that other news outlets gloss over. One issue is the racist and questionable appointment's by this administration. I think the administration has shown that it is racist when it highlights a "Beer" summit and actually disparagingly calls an entire Police department racist. Some of the Czars that the administration has appointed have turned out to be pretty shady characters with hidden agendas.Also these czars bypass the entire congressional approval process where most would certainly fail and not be approved.
You should start looking at the facts and stop playing and degrading everyone who disagrees with the Obama Plan. The economy rescue plan should give you something to think about. Most of the things promised during the campaign have not happened. The media outlets do have a love affair with the president, after all they helped elect him.
I'll keep watching FOX....mabe you should also.
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deathray1 month ago
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i'd really like to see examples from the folks here at propeller, who support fox show us examples of foxes fair and balanced treatment of this administration, and why.
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i'd also like them to show how their treartment of the previous administration was similarly fair and balanced, and why.
it's not a partisan question. jacob weisberg raises the issue that all news organizations need to keep near and dear; when covering an issue, deciding NOT to cover it, or how the coverage develops, they need to ask themselves whether they are being objective.
i expect to see a lot of finger pointing, but if you want to critique msnbc, townhall, pbs, mcclatchy, or anyone else, find an article and do it there.
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jmopinion1 month ago
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pokydoke1 month ago
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The only thing they are doing right is to make money. FNC tells you what you want to hear not what you need to hear. Actually FNC only beats out other cable news programs not major network news. Sponge Bob Square Pants beats out FNC for ratings in most time slots.
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We just went through this yesterday, here is the link.
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mesodude1 month ago
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"Fox viewer ratings are blowing the other news outlets out of the water so Fox must be doing something right."
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--Exactly...If something is a ratings success, naturally that means it represents quality programming. Good to see someone with rock solid critical thinking skills posting here today. Keep up the good work. ;-x -
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LilLiberalMe1 month ago
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Let me enlighten you as to "ratings" Fox News has more P2+ viewers than anyone. Those are viewers who are retired, at home all day and watch Fox News through 2 or more (therefore the 2+) time slots, who skew the ratings, by at least 30% possibly more. So, the old white haired bigots and racists who stay home all day, 65 or older are tuned to FOX like glue. The average age of their viewing audience is 62 - so what does that tell you? It tells me that their audience is over the hill, uneducated and bigoted. I rest my case.
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icono11 month ago
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For what it is worth here is another view of the whole snafu over FNC vs the MSM and consequently the 0Bama Admin or vice verse if you prefer. Which by the way, contrary to what people think or FNC may say, FNC is part of the MSM.
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Yet as the article below points out, FNC has cultivated an audience that 'prefers to hear' what FNC has to say about 'issues' relevant to the 'common American' as opposed to what CNN or MSNBC and etc have to report about equivalent issues for most viewers think that the majority of media outlets are too soft on the current admin. Which of course, implies that the viewing audience believes FNC 'more so' than the other news outlets.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/oct/18/wh...-
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mesodude1 month ago
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FOX caters to viewers who will tell them what they already believe to be true. The average FOX viewer thinks that if he or she only surround themselves with like-minded people, this means that her or his world view and philosophy of life are those of the "common American."
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Progressive1 month ago
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You know the Washington Times is owned by Rev. Moon, but here's some additional information on the author of the article in your link above:
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Jeffrey T. Kuhner, who heads the Edmund Burke Institute, which is described ...as a “Washington-based think tank.” Taking a page out of the white nationalist playbook, Kuhner frets that the Obama administration plans a massive amnesty that will allow the “army of illegal immigrants” to wipe out America’s European “roots.”
Kuhner sees an America suffering from an immigrant “invasion,” a “bleeding sore” of a Southern border, “overwhelmed” hospitals and Mexican cartels running amok. He sees America’s jails filling up with these foreigners — “one-third of the federal prison population is composed of illegal immigrants”— a falsehood common among anti-immigrant propagandists. He worries that our “uncontrolled immigration” is causing the “bonds of national union” to be “torn apart.”
What brought all this end times worrying on? Kuhner’s attendance at a radio talk show event put on...in Washington by the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), which was listed as an anti-immigrant hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center in 2007.
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/index.php?s=virulent...
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mesodude1 month ago
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"Being un-American is whatever they say it is at the time. Next year, it might be reading with the lights on."
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--I know just what you mean...I remember when a certain Republican VP said that deficits don't matter and cons would nod sheepishly in agreement. I also remember when it was treasonous to criticize the President during a time of war. We were supposed to stand behind the President for the good of the country. Apparently "for the good of the country" really meant provided that the President is Republican. And I can't even keep up with whether Medicare is good or bad anymore. It's like it's based on whatever side of the bed cons woke up on that morning.
Gee, I remember when it was wrong to be a flipflopper. But last year, cons nominated John McCain as their Presidential candidate (even though they hated, thought he was a RINO and him and rejected him for Bush in 2000). They proved not only that they had no problem electing flipfloppers but that THEY were perfectly cool with being flipfloppers themselves. Now THAT was some OLYMPIC gymnastics. ;-P
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calitennflo1 month ago
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biased- # favoring one person or side over another; "a biased account of the trial"; "a decision that was partial to the defendant"
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wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
Isn't being biased appropriate for those who oppose criminals? Then it should be appropriate to be against Oboma. And, in all fairness...why would anyone have to approve.
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calitennflo1 month ago
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http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/08/06/steele.obam...
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(CNN) -- Friday marks President Obama's 200th day in office, and in most respects, his second hundred days as president have been worse than the first 100.
August 6, 2009
We should have a biased opinion by now...-
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Progressive1 month ago
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That's tame for Michael Steele--but typical for what can be expected from him.
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Michael Steele's RNC tied to web site that promoted military coup against the President:
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skyking2p1 month ago
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yes G W Bush and the repugs left the country with a very deep hole to dig out off. I wish it could have been done in 200 days , but it took the repugs 8 years to turn the Clinton economy into what we have today so it will take a long time to fix it, but it will happen.
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sinophil491 month ago
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cali - " Friday marks President Obama's 200th day in office, and in most respects, his second hundred days as president have been worse than the first 100."
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Prove it. Until you provide facts, figures, analysis, it is simply rhetorical farting.
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calitennflo1 month ago
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I looked there and found...
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"Yesterday, Newsmax columnist John L. Perry brought up the possibility of a military coup against President Obama. Most chilling, perhaps, was the fact that Perry seemed to offer tepid support for the idea."
tepid- showing little interest or enthusiasm
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tanglang1 month ago
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"All of them assert that administration officials are either wrong in substance or politically foolish to criticize the network. No one is cited supporting Dunn's criticisms or saying that it could make sense for Obama to challenge the network's power."
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So that means they are biased? Or does it mean that folks from opposite sides of the spectrum can agree that the potus is wrong?-
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Progressive1 month ago
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There is no need to get bogged down in this phony debate, which itself constitutes an abuse of the fair-mindedness of the rest of the media. One glance at Fox's Web site or five minutes' random viewing of the channel at any hour of the day demonstrates its all-pervasive slant. The lefty documentary Outfoxed spent a lot of time mustering evidence that Fox managers order reporters to take the Republican side. But after 13 years under Roger Ailes, Fox employees skew news right as instinctively as fish swim.
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bigurn1 month ago
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Fox has a rightward slant. So what? Every other major network is left of center, and I don't see you leftist folks complaining about their "objectivity".
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It's amazing that calling people "Un-American" was met with sharp rebuke when Bush was in office, but it's all the rage now.-
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Progressive1 month ago
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That Rupert Murdoch may tilt the news rightward more for commercial than ideological reasons is beside the point. What matters is the way that Fox's model has invaded the bloodstream of the American media. By showing that ideologically distorted news can drive ratings, Ailes has provoked his rivals at CNN and MSNBC to develop a variety of populist and ideological takes on the news. In this way, Fox hasn't just corrupted its own coverage. Its example has made all of cable news unpleasant and unreliable. -
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ardontarzana1 month ago
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Being un-american is to elect a parasite who has never held a profitable job or gotten a check that is not government/tax payer funded.
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UNAMERICAN is to have as place of 'worship' a black Muslim 'church' where ayatolla Wright preaches "God damn America".
THANK GOD FOR FOX NEWS for not kissing the snake oil salesman's butt, and being TRUTHFUL !-
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Progressive1 month ago
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Rather than in any way maturing, Fox has in recent months become more boisterous and demagogic. Fox sponsored as much as it covered the anti-Obama "tea parties" this summer. Its "fact checking" about the president's health-care proposal is provided by Karl Rove. And weepy Glenn Beck has begun to exhibit a Strangelovean concern about government invading our bloodstream by vaccinating people for swine flu. With this misinformation campaign, Fox stands to become the first network to actively try to kill its viewers. -
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ardontarzana1 month ago
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At the begining of this presidential charade, the word to be used for not agreeing with the empty suit was 'racist'; now, if you dislike his arrogance, and the abuse caused by his deep inferiority complex, you are un-american.....
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Well, consider the source !-
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jakesguile1 month ago
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As others have said, this isn't about Obama this is about Fox News, keep it on topic sockpuppet.
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Also: Please list where Obama is arrogant and provide proof for a "deep inferiority complex" I'm really not sure where you get the evidence that he has an inferiority complex.... but I'm guessing your answer will be racist
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kfed1 month ago
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hannity certainly is conservative, Beck and OReilly state their Independent. Juan is democrat, Shepherd Smith hasn't really said, Judge Napalitano is Libertarian, Bob Beckel is democrat.
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This is not blatant bias as you suggest. The scary part to me is how you can make that point lacking your due diligence.
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Progressive1 month ago
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I'm not astonished that you imagine Glenn Beck's words were Anita Dunn's "own words".
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In attacking Anita Dunn, claiming that she "worships" her "hero" Mao Zedong, Glenn Beck has targeted yet another Obama administration official in his Fox News-assisted witch hunt of President Obama's so-called "czars." Beck and Fox News have previously attacked with falsehoods and spurious claims White House officials Kevin Jennings, Cass Sunstein, Harold Koh, and Van Jones.
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jakesguile1 month ago
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What's that sockpuppet? Racism, Bigotry, Discrimination, Misinformation, Lies, Falsehoods, Spin?
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You're right, the other networks don't have the fortitude to do such things... Unlike Fox, they haven't sold their souls to satan yet. -
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Klarissa1 month ago
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The more Obama complains about Fox the more people are going to wonder why Obama finds it such a threat.
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If someone tunes into Fox, much more likely now that there is such a fuss, they may just wonder why he is so upset about it. It would make him look like a little person who whines every time someone doesn't express admiration. -
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Natureboy1 month ago
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The epithet "un-American" is vapid, content-free crap. It was crap in the HUAC days, crap when Joe McCarthy threw it around, crap when it was hurled at Vietnam-era anti-war protesters.
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It has not improved with age, and it gains no dignity or worth when the left picks it up and hurls it back at the right.
The specific thesis here is that biased media is not part of the American journalistic tradition, but is instead a "British-Australian import." That's a ludicrous, preposterous claim. Was William Randolph Hearst substantially better than Murdoch? Haven't you encountered other media outlets which were obviously biased towards one party or the other? In Detroit, the Free Press was the paper for the Dems and the Detroit News was for the Republicans. In Phoenix, the Arizona Republic was known to many as the "Arizona Republican" because its bias was so obvious.
So maybe we should abandon the "un-American" blather and simply state the facts - that Fox's journalism is at times astonishingly unprofessional, that they fail ethically as journalists to firewall their hard news from their opinion pieces, and that they fail in their social obligation to engender an informed electorate.-
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ddago20061 month ago
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With obama and his radical administration anyone who don't agree with him or his destructive socialistic policies are either Un-American, racists or terrorists! They are nothing but arrogant cry babys! and they are only mad at Fox because they are the only news station that informs the American people the truth about them and they are the only one that they don't control. What happened to obama's rhetoric and B.S. about how his administration would be the most transparent? If he lived up to his transparency rhetoric and B.S. then we wouldn't need Fox news to be the only news station that is not controlled and reports the truth about them!
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LilLiberalMe1 month ago
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Are you over 62? White? Racist? Retired and at home? From a Southern State? Then you fit the demographic for a FOX viewer. You are the P2+ segment of a limited and negative group. From your comments, I would guess at least 3 out of the five above fit you.
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kloves571 month ago
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So let me get this straight I am supposed to believe that Newsweek is fair and balanced ? And keep a straight face at the same time ? You might as well tell me that NBC and MSNBC are more even handed !!! The hypocrisy is amazing ....
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