covertress: Al Gore Sued by Over 30,000 Scientists for Global Warming Fraud »
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Al gore sued by The Founder of the Weather Channel and 29,000 others
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Striker1014 weeks, 1 day ago
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Gore deserves every bit of abuse we can give him. Nuff said. His BS is the excuses now used for cap'n'trade, restrictions on coal mining and drilling for oil, and giving a huge boost to "justify" the force of collectivism.
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rightfromwrong4 weeks, 1 day ago
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Striker1014 weeks, 1 day ago
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and just how do you propose to do that?
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Stop the regulations and you stop the permissions of capitalists and their lobbyists to gain any edge, and you send all the lobbyists to the back of the foodline.
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CarbonUnit634 weeks ago
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You start with a premise that is incorrect. ie, "there is no argument".......man is creating global warming, healthcare is a right, capitalism is bad.
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My guess is somebody else puts food in your mouth and clothes on your back.....mommy,daddy....your on the teat somewhere.
Because if you pulled your own weight, you would see it differently
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CRYMTYPHON4 weeks, 1 day ago
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Oh oh.
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This had better not be the 30,000 scientists
on the web page where you enter in your name,
degree, and your scientific field.
I love signing myself up on that place.
If it is, Professor Crymtyphon, with a Bachelor's in
Lycanthropy, is suing the very honorable Mr. Gore.
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fjgalt4 weeks, 1 day ago
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You can demonstrate your abilities in about 10 days.
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If you're referring to the Petition Project, readers of this discussion can check out their web site: http://www.petitionproject.org . Under FAQ, they state "Opponents of the petition project sometimes submit forged signatures in efforts to discredit the project. Usually, these efforts are eliminated by our verification procedures."
When you sign up, let us all know so we can check that you were successful getting listed as an expert in Lycanthrophy.
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Hhussk4 weeks, 1 day ago
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frctm54 weeks, 1 day ago
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I hope the lawsuit goes through because I don't think the deniers or conspiracy theorist have a leg to stand on. They can't even arrive at a consensus as to what their position is. Some say the earth isn't getting warmer while others say it is,but its a natural phenomenon. The most laughable part of their theory is that somehow this theory is a product of Al Gore. The first mention of greenhouse theory goes back to 1824 and is credited to a French scientist. The theory has been around a lot longer than Al Gore so to suggest this is his baby just reveals how ignorant these loons are. There have been plenty of other proponents of the theory since its inception and with more accurate records being kept on weather and better mathematical analysis of weather systems, the correlations are becoming more apparent. So bring it on. Let the loons have their day. It won't make any difference, of course, because even if they lose, and they will, they will simply chalk it up to the conspiracy theory. When you think Obama is a Muslim, Hitler, you're deep in wacky territory anyway.
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fjgalt4 weeks, 1 day ago
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The straw man approach, assigning those who rely on scientific fact and real-world data, with those who think Obama is Hitler just undermines any credibility you claim to have.
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The issue is whether carbon dioxide causes global warming. Science has demonstrated that the correlation is real (on a long-term level) but temperature changes precede carbon dioxide levels. Someone back in 1824 who made a hypothesis about the link should be credited with keen observation. But someone today, in light of ice core samples and other proxy data, who makes the claim that carbon dioxide causes global warming, isn't expressing scientific fact.
The present doomsday claim about global warming goes back to England and Margaret Thatcher who paid scientists to present claims that burning coal was endangering the planet and nuclear powered electricity was needed (she wanted to end the coal miners strike).
It began and still is a political movement, backed by a variety of groups: ecologists (greens) who think anything manmade is inherently bad for mother Earth, political opportunists who are looking to get rich and statists who see this as an opportunity to get control of the economies and people, and a lot of well-meaning but misinformed people who just want to do good.
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Radiofreeeuropa4 weeks ago
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Why That Rat Bastich!
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He told people not to leave their cell phone chargers plugged in.
I hate 'em.
I like to leave min on All the time.
Every danged light in the house too caus that is America!
That's right. I stuck a stick in my toilet too so it's flushing ALL the time!!!!
(haven't figured out how to sit on it yet...but what the hey!)
I drive around with the gas cap off and disconnect a few spark plugs too.
Caus bein a awhole is a god given American right!!!!!
And no geinkin soopin whooper is gonna tell me shinola!!!!
Yup!
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Hhussk4 weeks, 1 day ago
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There is no convincing deniers. they won't be confused with facts.
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Would you consider that average temperatures recorded this year as "facts"? Because they point towards a cooling trend, not a warming trend.
I don't think you understand how to interpret the facts.
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fjgalt4 weeks, 1 day ago
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Here's another video, "Not evil, just wrong." I haven't seen it yet as it just came out this past week.
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They have a small clip at their web site:
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rhyannon384 weeks, 1 day ago
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Most of these scientist r independent,meaning they don't have endorsements or their research published by the 'elitist club",because they r not members.The politicization and control of science by a certain group or groups is no different than than the religious fundamentalism of the dark ages,science is being lost and nothing is being learned.I applaud these men and women for standing up against a cabal of corruption at the risk of further losing grants,becaus of backlash from science frauds such as IPPC,NASA,Academies of Sciences and others.
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CRYMTYPHON4 weeks ago
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Oh, sure.
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Like we liberals don't know that conservatives get paid
millions to post your 'opinions', and that you have
private clubs where you lounge in hot tubs
and type insults to Al Gore all day long.
Peeled grapes and massueses in skimpy uniforms
bringing you drinks with paper umbrellas,
and envelopes of cash stuffed by men
in sunglasses into the pockets of your coats?
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Radiofreeeuropa4 weeks ago
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Yeah dem dam science joints is no good.
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Universities, NOAA, Nasa wif der dam spyin sattelites!
Les kik der bots!
Cmon..
Everyboty nose Colleges r nuffin but political fronts for al gore.
Ouch!
Mah Knee did it agin...mah achin' chin geez.
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Hhussk4 weeks, 1 day ago
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CRYMTYPHON4 weeks ago
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True;
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but it is a hoax involving almost all major scientific institutions on the planet;
requiring the cooperation of hundreds of thousands of climate scientists,
geologists, meteorologists, biologists, oceanologists, and physicists.
It is a hoax requiring that school labs across the world have been rigged
with 'altered' carbon dioxide samples, so that they collect heat
in bottles when light is passed through.
Or, Climate Change could be real;
merely denied by a crowd of
know-nothings financed by
the Liberty Eagle Family Petroleum Heritage Foundation.
But be real; what are the odds for that ?
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RickyDawkins4 weeks ago
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The Video Climate Deniers Tried to Ban - Climate Denial Crock of the Week
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_0-gX7aUKk&
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EKB_4 weeks ago
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So this whole climate change thing is just another part of the vast conspiracy to redistribute the wealth and destroy America? Nearly every study that shows negative effects of climate change and CO2 is just faulty logic or fraud and every scientist that believes it is either in on it or being duped. Wow! Thank god you conservative were able to uncover this! This is again more proof that the only people with the power and motive to pull off this vast conspiracy must be the chinese! And they might have gotten away with it if it wasn't for you meddling cons!
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Klarissa4 weeks ago
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EKB, it is not a conspiracy.
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Al gore was out of a job.
He had never done anything but grow tobacco and act as a senator.
He got financing for a carbon exchange company.
He put together a movie to scare people.
The UN climate group loved meeting in places with lots of golf courses. The more members and the more meetings the better.
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CRYMTYPHON4 weeks ago
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There are holes in the Rockys and Apalachians,
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where there were peaks and valleys.
We changed the mountains.
The sky at night is a starless dome lit by our cities,
decorated by planes and satelites.
We changed the night sky.
The great forest that stretched from
New England to Florida? Gone.
The plains and prairies of the midwest
are farms and fields crossed by our highways.
We changed the land.
The oceans have islands of our floating trash,
and dead places where the fish have been swept up
in giant trawler nets. The beachs are lined prettily
with our debrie.
We changed the oceans.
The animals that threatened us are gone, or caged
into reserves. The animals we found useful,
we bred and re-engineered like machines.
Plants grow now where and how we wish;
their genetic structure patented by corporations.
We changed the plants and animals.
The air and water is laced with our chemicals.
The streams overlow with our waste;
the stench of deisel tells us where the highway is.
We changed the wind; the streams; the world.
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Radiofreeeuropa4 weeks ago
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Gee he must have been a prophet then...praise the lord it's a miracle-gro (tm).
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because he has been active in environmental issues since his college days.
Acording to the New York Times, " his interest in environmentalism began when he was a teenager:"
"As I was entering high school, my mother was reading Silent Spring and the dinner table conversation was about pesticides and the environment [...] The year I graduated from college the momentum was building for Earth Day. After Vietnam, as I was entering divinity school, the Club of Rome report came out and the limits to growth was a main issue."
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/09/opinion/09gore.h...
Whether or not one likes Al Gore should have zip to do with reasoning an opinion on climate change. The vast majority of earth science professionals say man IS having an effect.
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Klarissa4 weeks ago
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dsc.discovery.com/news/2009/05/05/himalayas-glacie...
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May 5, 2009 --
Perched on the soaring Karakoram mountains in the Western Himalayas, a group of some 230 glaciers are bucking the global warming trend. They're growing.
Surging glaciers are common and do not necessarily mean a glacier is growing in overall size. But the fact that dozens of them have all surged in the same region hints that larger climate forces are at work.
"It looks like it's the Westerlies," Shroder said, referring to strong jets of wind that pour from west to east in a belt around the planet. Though he can't say for certain, the winds appear to be carrying more moisture from the warming Atlantic Ocean and Mediterranean Sea eastward.
If that's true, some of the moisture would fall into the region around the Caspian Sea. But as the winds rise into Karakoram's frigid heights, any remaining water would come down as snow, feeding the glaciers.
"We will see regional patterns like this developing as climate change alters precipitation," said Andrew Fountain of Portland State University in Oregon.
Fountain said that similar trends were evident in some Scandinavian glaciers during the 1990s, which benefited from increased storminess and precipitation coming off the North Atlantic Ocean. Researchers have also found that glaciers on California's Mt. Shasta have been growing for decades. And glacier recession has been blunted in the mountains of Oregon and Washington state because of increased moisture from the warming Pacific Ocean.
In the Karakorams, the uptick in glacier mass has come with a welcomed perk. The mighty Indus River, which flows out of China and nourishes northern India and much of Pakistan has experienced an increase in discharge.-
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RickyDawkins4 weeks ago
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"Birth of a Climate Crock"
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Radiofreeeuropa4 weeks ago
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A couple years back you touted the one bit of sheet ice that was enlarging in Antarctica as proof there was no man made climate change...remember what happened to that?
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It fell off and melted.
All models show some areas actually getting cooler, but the overall global average rising.
With Arctic ice at an all time low, you find one single glacier growing and see that as an excuse to deny what climatologists are saying???
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/20091015_...
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pokydoke4 weeks ago
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Here is a wikipedia site and some graphs that show global average temps over time.
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dumbasademocrat4 weeks ago
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Now Comrades ...you KNOW that the global warming debacle..i mean debate, falls right into the GREAT LEADERS vision of one world unity in pain and suffering ! Give up your pretty cars ! Give up your heated houses !! You must be willing to sacrifice for the greater good ! Facts are irrelevant ! Results are to be achieved by whatever means ! Rejoice comrades, the day is approaching!
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CRYMTYPHON4 weeks ago
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Radiofreeeuropa4 weeks ago
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http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/?report=global
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Actual most up to date data.
Unfortunately unlike social issues which don't rely much on scientific investigation, just cause Rush says it ain't so don't make it not so.
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Klarissa4 weeks ago
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gore:
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He is currently the founder and chair of Alliance for Climate Protection,
the co-founder and chair of Generation Investment Management,
the co-founder and chair of Current TV, a member of the Board of Directors of Apple Inc., and a senior advisor to Google.[5]
He is also a partner in the venture capital firm, Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers, heading that firm's climate change solutions group.[6][7] In addition, Gore is on the faculty of Middle Tennessee State University as a visiting professor, and was a visiting professor at Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism, Fisk University, and the University of California, Los Angeles.
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