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Posted By Progressive 1 month ago in HumorJohn McCain fights net neutrality with the Internet Freedom Act of 2009. Airdate - 10/26/2009
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Beau78901 month ago
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Stewart has a way of clarifying certain topics for people who aren't wonks in a way that cuts through simplistic marketing messages. This is a perfect example.
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The problem with the "Keep the government out of _______" (fill in the blank with your favorite hot-button issue) meme is that when the government steps out, private business--whose sole motive is always to make as much money as possible--can then exploit the lack of consumer protection.-
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dunkirk1 month ago
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The right is afraid of the net, they dont control it and that is exactly what McCains bill will do. We aren't talking govt control of the net we are talking about making sure no one controls the net but as usual the right is spinning it into govt control. Its time for Obama to call them on teh carpet and have them define exactly how the govt would ocntrol the net
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wtagg1 month ago
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The issue I have with that position is that the government isn't a perfect benevolent overseer. Yes, I agree that private concerns do not have the customer's interests at heart, but I am pretty sure that those in government do not either. The Patriot Act is the perfect example. It is allegedly for the protection of the citizens. That's laughable.
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Unfortunately, due to human nature, I don't think there is a really solid solution. Whoever oversees such things will always have an interest in something or can be encouraged to have an interest. I guess the only way to really look at it is at a point by point level and that tends to complicate things. -
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UnusualSuspect1 month ago
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Free the Internet! Free the Internet!
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Well, I think all fingers should be OFF the control button, especially by the US.
All we'll do is end up with a homogenized, pasteurized version, and it'll end up being used only by colleges and governments again...
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Hhussk1 month ago
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That...was a terrible explanation of Net Neutrality by Jon Stewart.
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I watched it twice; did anyone see if he referenced HR 3458 "The Internet Freedom Preservation Act of 2009" by (D-MA) Rep. Edward Markey?
Stewart is obviously a net neutrality proponent. Have any of you seen the pricing structure of net neutrality? Did you know that the ISPs will be force to give equal bandwidth to email that they give to video and gaming? Did you like youtube; how about your online game?
The cost of net neutrality will be passed to the consumer. I do not understand why people don't realize that the cost is always passed to the consumer.
Net neutrality was initiated in Congress in 2006. Then, a Forrester Research analysis report predicted that if it passed, "legal costs will shoot through the roof – draining the pockets of everyone involved.”-
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Beau78901 month ago
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Why is it that you never mind business passing its costs--including whatever profits it wants to make--onto the consumer, but you always object to government passing the cost of consumer protections on to business, because consumers will end up paying for its own protections rather than paying for whatever other costs that don't actually benefit those consumers that businesses want to pass on?
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I quoted the relevant text of H.R. 3458 in an above response to wtagg. What (other than Forrester Research's analysis of its cost) do you object to?
And if your sole objection is cost, I don't see why "legal costs will shoot through the roof" due to net neutrality, as courts have already ruled that ISPs aren't liable for content on sites their customers can access.
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Tangent0011 month ago
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"Did you know that the ISPs will be force to give equal bandwidth to email that they give to video and gaming?"
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Yes, that's what they do NOW! It's clear you don't understand the technology involved. The bandwidth for email doesn't stay 'open' all the time. Your email client will chew up a chunk of bandwidth if and when there is a piece of mail to go get, and then give it back to whatever program needs it. IFPA does nothing to change that.
ISPs are not going to be forced to add bandwidth. If you have a 4Mbps connection, you're not gonna get an additional 4 Mbps for email, gaming, online videos, etc. HR3458 simply assures that HBO.com could not 'set aside' 2Mbps of bandwidth whether it needed it or not, or only 'allow' 56kbps of bandwidth to a 'small-timer', which is what companies like Comcast want to do.
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Tangent0011 month ago
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Here's another way to look at it.
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What Net Neutrality assures is that if I have a 4M hose, and the site I visit has a 2M spigot, I can partake of that site at 2M speed. What the big ISPs want is: If I have a 4M hose, and the site has a 2M spigot, unless the site pays the ISP $X, I can only partake of that site at 512k, regardless of the fact that I have 3.5M of my hose unused at the time.
How is that a 'free market'?-
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Hhussk4 weeks, 1 day ago
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How is that a 'free market'?
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It's a free market because you choose not to be a member of one ISP, and join an ISP that specifically caters to "gamers" or other specific activities.
"Free" is just what it means. You can run your company as you wish, and therefore, people can choose not subscribe if they hate your service.
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philbrick1 month ago
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McCain must be a fast learner. Before the 2008 election he claimed he didn't know how to use a computer. Now is authoring complex internet legislation (Internet Freedom Act of 2009). One would think you'd have to know a little something about computers to pull this off.
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Wow what a quick study.
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