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Posted By RTHTGakaRoland 1 month, 1 week ago in Political Opinion
During the last presidential campaign, I said there was a light whiff of fascism coming from the Obama campaign. That was based on its habit of improperly trying to repress criticism of every kind. Example: A Chicago radio station was planning on airing a critic of President Obama, who was publicizing the candidate’s close association with terrorist Bill Ayres. The Obama campaign organized a call-in campaign to flood the station with calls and prevent the critic from being heard. Anther example: The Obama campaign warned that any critics in Missouri would be subjected to prosecution there if they voiced criticism that was not true. There was a "Barack Obama Truth Squad” made up of prosecutors and sheriffs to keep critics in line, promising rebuttals and prosecution in appropriate cases (NewsBusters, September 29, 2008).
Now that whiff has turned into a strong stench of fascism, as the Obama Administration uses the vast resources of the federal government to squelch criticism and silence and intimidate critics. Here are some of the recent examples of that:
• The administration has organized a concerted campaign to marginalize, demonize, de-legitimize and destroy Fox Cable News simply because it, virtually alone among broadcast outlets, originates strong criticism of the Obama Administration and asks tough questions about what it is trying to do.
• When a health insurance company that marketed Medicare policies tried to warn its policyholders that Obamacare would hurt seniors’ insurance programs, the Department of Health and Human Services issued on a gag order on such communications with policyholders.
• When segments of the health insurance industry turned against Obamacare, Mr. Obama threatened to have the antitrust exemption of the industry revoked. When the timing of the threat is taken into account, it is clear that this was revenge and payback for Obamacare criticism.
• Any criticism of Mr. Obama and Obamacare is met with harsh criticism and what Mr. Obama once described as “calling them out.” For example, a recent radio address from Mr. Obama accused the insurance industry of misleading and improper criticism of Obamacare. The address lasted a little over six minutes, but did not sight a single fact or bit of evidence indicating that the industry was using deceptive tactics.
• Mr. Obama and his administration are willing to tell lies, and big lies, over and over again, perhaps on the Goebbels theory that if you tell a big enough lie often enough it will be believed. One of the Obama lies that I found particularly irksome was his claim after the Senate Committee passed a version of Obamacare that it was a bipartisan product.
• The Obama administration is known to favor and is now maneuvering to get some version of the Fairness Doctrine on the books to wipe out conservative talk radio. If Mr. Obama’s people can’t get the Fairness Doctrine revived, they’ll try to kill conservative talk radio with some other device such as “diversity” or “localism” requirements in broadcasting.
• Then there was the highly publicized attempt of the Obama Administration to use the National Endowment for the Arts to influence artists and others who received government grants to create “works of art” supporting the Obama program. This is not an isolated example of the illegal and improper use by Mr. Obama of the government to propagandize and campaign: “Senate Finance ranking member Chuck Grassley, R., Iowa, is raising concerns that a Department of Health and Human Services Web site that urges visitors to send an e-mail to President Barack Obama praising his health care reform plan may violate rules against government-funded propaganda.” That’s a report from Roll Call (Oct. 20). You will probably also recall the White House’s collection of e-mail names, addresses and comments of those making “fishy” comments about Obamacare.
• Mr. Obama and Democratic Congressional leaders have expressed support for the Employee Free Choice Act, which would abolish the secret ballot in union elections. This shows the willingness of Mr. Obama and the Democratic Party leadership to do anything to satisfy the demands of one of their voting constituencies.
• Mr. Obama has had a long and close association with ACORN, the corrupt community organization that has specialized in intimidation and other improper tactics to force banks to lend and has long been in the business of election fraud. That kind of anti-democratic activity is part of the picture that emerges from Mr. Obama and his administration.
• Mr. Obama and the Democratic Congress have been willing to indulge in outrageous anti-democratic techniques to get legislation passed: Not reading a bill before it is signed, not posting the bill on the Internet prior to voting on it, as promised, and keeping negotiations secret and one-sided, also in conflict with promises.
I’ve emphasized one aspect of fascism – its objective of the forcible suppression of opposition. But it also qualifies under the other elements, including the suppression of private enterprise and putting it under centralized government control. That is one hallmark of the Obama Administration, it expands government, contracts the private sector and places new and unprecedented power in the hands of a centralized, expanding government bureaucracy.
This government expansion also is a restriction of our freedom because as the government gets bigger, the individual citizen gets smaller.
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Wolfie20071 month, 1 week ago
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I think today instead of having to argue with the liberal progressive about fascism, Marxism, communism or whatever ism. I'm just going to call it totalitarianism. Obama wants the government to be totally in charge of everything.
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Totalitarianism, it's just a thug philosophy from Chicago. Don't worry they are from the government and they just want to help.-
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Striker1011 month, 1 week ago
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Totalitarianism works for me, it is the result of collectivism, which covers the spectrum of the isms. I have seen too many lefties playing the semantics game to avoid dealing with those issues, so I'm with you and avoid them all. All are the using the Force of GOVERNment to lord over the people. We need a word also for voluntary government which does not include govern-.
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Endoscopy1 month, 1 week ago
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Actually the correct term is collectivism. The collective has the power not the individual. All of those ism's you refereed to fall under this category. Liberals love the concept because their only response to a problem is more government control. The collective rules not the people.
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RTHTGakaRoland1 month, 1 week ago
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The obama Regime is or is dangerously close to violating Civil Rights Law, given the incidents cited in the article.
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U.S. Code > TITLE 42 > CHAPTER 21 > SUBCHAPTER I > § 1985
§ 1985. Conspiracy to interfere with civil rights
(3) Depriving persons of rights or privileges
U.S. Code > TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 13 > § 242
§ 242. Deprivation of rights under color of law
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/242.html
These sections are the key bits of law concerning the incidents of the story. The insurance gag order and antitrust threat, the "Fairness Doctrine" and similar efforts, the "Fishy"
snitch list incidents, and most distinctly the Missouri threats of prosecution by law enforcement are all serious attacks on the Civil Rights of Americans and the core principles of America.
I think that it would be pure poetry if the very petard of Civil Rights Laws that was improperly wielded (denigrating that movements once laudable principles) to impose obama and much of the Left’s agenda on America was the the one upon which the Obama Regime is soon hoisted. -
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Tumultuous1 month, 1 week ago
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Fascism is a system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism.
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Fascism is on the ascendant in the USA, rising cloaked under the mantle of the Grand Old Party.-
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dgoodii1 month, 1 week ago
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So on which side are constituionalist and liberatarians, those who believe in individual freedom and liberty to choose their own outcomes in life? The foundation for how we have become great people and nation in such a short time.
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Grand Old Party and Democrat party share many of the same control and power ideas, none of which they should have control of from the US government level.
We should all be concerned with the levels of control the US government has amassed.
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Striker1011 month, 1 week ago
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Fascism, as with all forms of totalitarianism, is Force, plain and simple. Force is illegal in the private sector, e.g. rape, extortion, murder, theft. Only in GOVERNment is the moral switched and declaring that Force is legal and somehow good.
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Endoscopy1 month, 1 week ago
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Take the term away and use the term Collective. This is what all of the far left and right isms fall under. The collective (big government) controls everything. Liberals seem to love this idea because they always want to solve all problems by having the government control it. This health care boondoggle is a perfect example. there are problems with the system and the Democrat idea is to create a monstrous set of bureaucracies (54 of them) that will micromanage it. Therefore the collective will control all of health care not the people.
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skyking2p1 month, 1 week ago
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the 20% crowd are lose again. Tin hats and all. You guys are interesting entertainment. Thanks for the laugh. RTHT is this your full time job now?? I was watching fox noise on and off tonight and this was almost the same talking points they had on all night.
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fiftynine1 month, 1 week ago
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Where do you think the right gets their ideas...Not one of these dumb a&&&& has any idea of what fascism is or they would have thrown bush and his buds to the curb before the first term was up..What do you call giving tax cuts to the rich while the middle class is carrying the load...What do you call giving oil company's that post record profits more of the tax payers money ?Is that not corporate fascism ?And doesn't the right applaud anything that gives these same corporations more power and money ?
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You dim wits on the right must come from some pretty constrictive back rounds if you have to constantly whine about government control...Each and every one of stupid ducks got up this morning with no restrictions put on what you could do today..Nothing as long as it is legal,but yet you whine like little baby's...Why don't you get friggin real and either lead follow or get the hell out of the way..We already know you can't lead...WE do know by your parroting every word of faux news,limpy,and beck that you can follow,but in my opinion you need to get out of the way and let the adults clean up the messes that your best and brightest caused...
Friggi'n anti American simpletons...One of you post that they wish we would be invaded so Obama would be overthrown,another (BB64) said he would take the word of Putin before he would our president..Limpy says that you all are in agreement with AQ and the Taliban that Obama shouldn't have got the Nobel prize..and the list goes on..A party of sexual deviants that screw everything up they touch and are crying about fascism..when they are the party that has supported it.
What presidential candidate has had people arrested for wearing the opposing party's t-shirts for Christ sake..clue it wasn't a democrat it was your hero the bushboy..
Bunch of sniveling little &&&&& that don't realize how good they have it..
Friggi'n whiners that would rather practice sedition than try to move this country forward..
I would like to see everyone of the cowardly P******** move somewhere where there is fascism and see if they can tell the difference..I'll bet they could and i'll bet they would beg to support Obama...
These morons lost and now instead of getting behind the president and proving that they are patriots and support the system that we have and trying to move this country forward they choose to support the likes of drug addicts and drunks and sexual perverts..Friggi'n posers like beck and limpy are their de facto mouthpieces,cowards that didn't have the nuts to serve this country but are the rights arm chair generals..What a pathetic bunch of losers !!
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truthiness1 month, 1 week ago
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Websters online:
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Fascism- a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
Socialism-1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
Totalitarianism- 1 : centralized control by an autocratic authority
2 : the political concept that the citizen should be totally subject to an absolute state authority
Capitalism- an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market
Republic- 1 a (1) : a government having a chief of state who is not a monarch and who in modern times is usually a president (2) : a political unit (as a nation) having such a form of government b (1) : a government in which supreme power resides in a body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by elected officers and representatives responsible to them and governing according to law -
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CRYMTYPHON1 month, 1 week ago
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Not to take an rthtGakawhatever posting seriously,
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- but for the record:
Liberals believe in the power of liberty.
We believe in education for all; because in that lies freedom.
We believe in health for all; because in that lies freedom.
We fear the bank's control over our lives
more than jackbooted thugs from the UN.
We believe in using government to do things.
We use government to limit big business from
owning our cars, our houses, our jobs, our media,
our schools, our health, - our lives.
Freedom should always be liberaly applied.-
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oldslowjim1 month, 1 week ago
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"We believe in using government to do things."
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Like it or not, the problem lies in this statement. In way too many cases, in order for government "to do things", force and coercion must be used for the government to accomplish their goals. This requires citizens to surrender their freedom.
Every time you hear someone in the government talk about the "general welfare" grab your pocketbook and freedom because here comes the anal penetration. There are numerous examples of this and they all consist of some "elite" group of government advocates requiring (forcing/coercing) some people to act differently than they might chose on their own.
Here is just one example, social security. Does it accomplish good things? Sure. But I'll make the argument that it was the first nail in the coffin of the breakup of the family by the government. Did we lose freedom? Sure. We are forced to pay taxes for the program. Is that a loss of freedom? Again, sure it is. We are trading liberty and freedom for the up side of having the responsibility/obligation of looking after seniors in our own family removed from us.
I think that liberals ignore the fact that just because a program or policy can have good arise from it, that there is also a down side. EVERY time the government chooses "TO DO" something, someone gives up their liberty/freedom in some form or fashion. The next time you advocate for the government to do something why don't you also discuss how you are overlaying YOUR value system onto people who may not agree with you. In other words, telling people how they WILL lead their lives.
Libertarians believe in small government. Even they recognize that there are reasons for a central government and it may be a necessary evil. With a small government, however, the least number of people are forced/coerced into doing things. Is that a bad thing? -
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Xaos1 month, 1 week ago
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You cannot use Government to do things and have Liberty, those two concepts are contradictory to each other. Government is not a tool, it is a necessary evil, and evil that should be kept in check by the constant vigilance of the people.
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Education, health and all such things are entitlements and not rights. When you mandate such things you remove Liberty from them. Liberty is choice, Government control removes choice from the equation. Not saying that things such as education and health care are bad but the individual citizen should have choice in the matter and not be limited to government backed and controlled schools for there children and government controlled health care
Liberals fear the Banks control over your lives but you support your elected leaders in the pandering to and bailing out of such institutions. I have only heard one Liberal democrat that has ever spoke out against the Federal Reserve, which is a nationalized bank. An institution our founding fathers feared.
Modern Liberalism to a Libertarian like myself has show itself to be intolerant to any who disagree with it or its positions, much the same as its much maligned foes the Neo Conservatives.
Liberty is freedom
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NoWayMan1 month, 1 week ago
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if RTHTGakaRoland, striker, wolfie, pc25, avoth, endo, tang, and all the other obama-haters on here get banned by the white house from using the internet under the charge of subversion and thrown in jail, then I'll start believing all of this useless, baseless nonsense.
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until that day...yaaaaaaawwwwnnn.-
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fiftynine1 month, 1 week ago
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How many of those you listed have put their azz on the line defending this country ? One ..maybe ? But they are always the first to scream about liberty when they have done nothing to insure we keep it..They get there talking points from people that have lived the same way..cowards that talk the big talk but when it came time to defend the liberty's we enjoy where was limpy,beck,cheney,rove,wolfowitz and the rest of the war mongering right ?
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These are the people that are screaming the loudest..where were they when they had the opportunity to show what great American patriots they are..Picking pimples off there azz,saying they had better things to do.....Yeah real bunch of solid oxy using patriots in that bunch,but people on the right choose,,get that,,CHOOSE (is that possible in a fascist state ?) to regurgitate every word they say..Some leaders you have there righty's..you should be real proud of the collection that are telling you that Obama is a fascist communist whatever your buzz word is today and inciting the stupid to overthrow a duly elected president.
You right wing morons need to grow up..if you can't do that then move and tell Chavez your problems.
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RTHTGakaRoland1 month, 1 week ago
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Again you resort to telling the "Big Lie": The Obama-Goebbels theory that if you tell a big enough lie often enough it will be believed. The key flaw in their theory is that believed is still not true, and all it takes is anyone to point out the truth. You trying it one line after I pointed it out does, however, get you some chutzpah points.
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FTA:
"• Mr. Obama and his administration are willing to tell lies, and big lies, over and over again, perhaps on the Goebbels theory that if you tell a big enough lie often enough it will be believed."
The inherent flaw in Obama-Goebbels theory is that even the biggest of balloons of the believed "Big Lie" still being subject to being popped by the first pin of truth is one of the prime motivators for these and similar Regimes suppression of speech, which is the the thrust of the article and a link connecting each case cited. -
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RTHTGakaRoland1 month, 1 week ago
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FTA:
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"The White House is brimming with socialists, communists, radicals and hate-America types. The only ideology not found there is one that respects American values and believes in American exceptionalism."
I quote this for two reasons:
A. The fact that sentence is obviously as descriptive of the "Propeller Left" as it is of the Obama Regime that they support and parrot.
B. The grouping of all these Socialists, Communists, Maoists, and Fascists illuminates the old Lefty lie and impossible wish that Fascism is anything but just another closely kindred form of the broader Lefts efforts at their collectivist dream.-
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frctm51 month, 1 week ago
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Fascist have no egalitarian ethic motivating their doctrine which is why this system is diametrically opposed to communism and Marxism. Marxists and communists believed in the universal brotherhood of the proletariat and that their movement was internationalist. Hitler was as social Darwinist in the same way that the Right is in America today. They, like he, believed in survival of the fittest. He believed that there was a competition among the races and that nations were the extension of the race. This is all laid out in Mein Kempf. Therefore, Jews, who were pacifist and internationalist as were communists and Bolshevist were view by fascist to be subhuman because they would not fight and purify their races but cooperate and share. This is why facism finds expression in ultra nationalism. You know, like people who say my country wrong or right. My country is incapable of error. I must be superior simply by virtue of my birth and citizenship in some sort of master race. America uber alles and screw the rest of the world. Your ultra patriots who love military power and kicking other countries asses. These are your true fascist. These are the ones who carry the mantle of Hitler. Hitler would never have embraced the ideas of Karl Marx who was a Jew and he regarded the Russians, Bolshevist, and Slavs as subhumans. So, unless your' completely ignorant of history, you can't be a fascist and a Marxist at the same time. Now it is true that the world socialism was contained in the acronym of the Nazi party. It is even true that it began as the German workers party when Hitler joined it. However, in 1933, the night of the long knives, Hitler had rival factions within the brown shirts leadership, assassinated and any resemblance to a socialist movement in the same vein as the Russian revolution died that night. But the name of the party was never changed. The black shirts cleaned up the brownshirts and consolidated power under Hitlers "rightwing" agenda.
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Striker1011 month, 1 week ago
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Fascism, as with all forms of totalitarianism, is Force, plain and simple. Force is illegal in the private sector, e.g. rape, extortion, murder, theft. Only in GOVERNment is the moral switched and declaring that Force is legal and somehow good.
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EKB_1 month, 1 week ago
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My comment is not about the subject of the article cause you guys are covering that. What stood out to me in the article was the rhetoric. There is NO SUCH THING as OBAMACARE! If you want to be taken seriously in your article then refer to it by its name or subject. Call it "health care reform", call it the "health care legislation". Using rightwing pundit scare tactics and catch phrases reduces your credibility and detracts from any legitimate argument that you might have.
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Xaos1 month, 1 week ago
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The march towards totalitarianism many are talking about now pre dates the current President and his administration by decades. Look back over the last few decades at the gradual erosion of personal liberty in the name of government power and expansion. There are blatant examples of it if one cares to look into it. Like the expansion of police powers during the Regan administration, the use of our military as a world police force by GWH Bush and Clinton, The pushing and signing of such bills as the Patriot Act and the Military Commissions act by GW Bush. I am sure there are many other examples of this erosion that I am failing to mention.
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I have also heard that many liberals are displeased with the direction that the current administration is taking, the fact they are dodging many of the promises that were made during the campaign and continuing on with some of the policies of the former administration.-
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djn3nunez31 month, 1 week ago
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It's a game they are playing against the citizens. Both parties. The feud (media circus) is window dressing to engage the public in a orgy of dis-information from all direction while the overall goals of accumulating government powers in all aspects of our lives continues.
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Yes I am displeased by the Obama Administrations quick turn to the center after the election but I was not suprised by it at all.
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Tangent0011 month, 1 week ago
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While Mr. Deneberg is entitled to his opinions, I find it ironic that after 8 years of the most opaque and executivist (is that a word?) administration in American history, Obama is being labeled the 'fascist'. While the Gitmo situation is still being sorted out, Bush and Cheney had no problem denying habeas corpus to detainees, holding people for years without charges, as well as instituting torture as a means of intelligence gathering.
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How quickly people forget that Cheney declared himself either part of the executive branch or part of the legislative branch, whichever was the most convenient. Bush issued more signing statement than any President in history. The Bush administration's policy regarding releasing documents under FOIA was to assume everything as automatically redacted unless there was specific cause to reveal information. Obama's policy is the opposite: Assume all information is to be released, unless there is a specific national security reason to redact.
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CRYMTYPHON1 month, 1 week ago
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I fear Big government;
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- should I not also fear Big business?
Either, unchecked by a community that has forgotten
its voice, will seek to rule absolutely
Those who wish us to be slaves,
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Beau78901 month, 1 week ago
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"I fear Big government;
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- should I not also fear Big business?
Thank you for making that point. Removing the power of one creates an unchecked rule of the other. It's as though someone wanted to remove the power of the legislative and jucial branches of government, so that the "unitary executive" would have sole power.
Who in his right mind would want that?
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frctm51 month, 1 week ago
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The bottom line is that the cons think Obama is a fascist because they lost the election and therefore control of the direction the nation is moving in. Obama isn't foisting his agenda on the American people but rather fulfilling his promise to those who put him in power. You lost. Okay! That's the real issue here. When your side loses, the side that wins controls the apparatus of lawmaking and policy direction. That is what the cons are referring to as fascism. The cons try to compensate for their numbers by being louder, more obnoxious, and more outrageous with their claims and allegations. This is true facism. Going to rallies to shout down and intimidate public speakers to make it seem like health care reform is not popular is a kind of fascism. And no, I don't defend this practice when the left does it either. Heckling is not debating. Its childish and anti-democratic.
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RTHTGakaRoland1 month, 1 week ago
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In but a brief time in power the Obama Regime has racked up an imposing record of infringing our speech, property, and electoral Civil Rights and those of our fellow Americans. Case after case cited is cited in article after articledefend . The Obama Regime has used both cooperation with "community" groups and unions like ACORN, WFP, OFA, UAW, and SEIU and interactive internet tools, some at taxpayers expense, to greatly expanded its pool of co-conspirators.
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We have, at least for now, protections under law; and some are enforceable by civil action, thus we are not dependent on the Regime's own Justice Department to assist us in defense of our Civil Rights.
U.S. Code TITLE 42 CHAPTER 21 SUBCHAPTER I
§ 1985. Conspiracy to interfere with civil rights (2) and (3)
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/42/1985.html
We must: Be aware. Beware. Use all the legal tools that we still have, perhaps not for long, to defend our Civil Rights as Americans.
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