Joe Lieberman Is a True Independent »
Posted By Progressive 3 weeks, 4 days ago in Humor
Joe Lieberman proves he's independent of his Connecticut constituents by opposing a public option in health care reform
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Progressive3 weeks, 4 days ago
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Look out Glenn Beck: There's a new crier in politics, and this one's a lefty. Rep. Alan Grayson (D-FL) broke into tears several times on the House floor Wednesday while reading letters from people who say their loved ones died due to their lack of health insurance. The testimonies were from Grayson's Web site namesofthedead.com, which he unveiled on the House floor last week as a way to draw attention to the human cost of inaccessible health care. The Web site’s name also reigniting his first high-profile foray into health reform's limelight, when his accusation that the GOP wants ailing Americans to "die quickly" drew national uproar. After his teary testimony, Grayson said, "For god's sake, I look forward to a time when we have finally done our jobs" securing universal health care in America.
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Hhussk3 weeks, 4 days ago
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Rep. Alan Grayson doesn't bother me. I hope he gets more attention. You can certainly anticipate my participation (against him), so more people can become aware of him.
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Also, it's interesting that you compare a person who is not in government with a public servant who IS in government.
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Endoscopy3 weeks, 4 days ago
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And the left rants about Beck and Limbaugh. This one is just as bad on the other side. He is in the same league as Maddow and Olberman. Radical left wing ranters.
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Saying that since Leiberman does not want the public option that he is not realy a liberal. I noticed that he foolishly tried to claim that the way Leiberman got elected was to split the Democrat vote is just foolish. If that was the case a Republican would have been elected. His election was a slap in the face for the Democrat party leadership there. His voting record is decidedly liberal. -
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TANC_Freeman3 weeks, 4 days ago
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Hi Progressive:
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Loved the link you had for the Colbert take on Joe Lieberman, probably one of the most confused, sell-out schmucks in the Senate today (although there so many "confused" schmucks in Congress to compete for Flo-Joe's crown!).
Joe doesn't want to "raise anyone's taxes" at this time with Healthcare Reform because he and his comrades in the Congress have done such a bang-up job raising federal deficit-spending to heights that surpass Mt. Everest. Yes, a mountain of federal debt adding up to nearly $12 trillion because good ole boy Joe flipped from the Dems to support the nearly TRILLION-DOLLAR wars/recovery efforts of Iraq and Afghanistan started under the Bush-Cheney doctrine of "preemptive war" and "blatant stupidity."
Lieberman has flip-flopped on positions so often that he's starting to look like former Lakers center Vlade Divac taking falls under the hoop to draw fouls -- does Lieberman think that by rotating party alliances will also create this image of himself as a "Maverick Independent?" To me, Joe should decide to go Republican because his statements on so-called "fiscal conservatism" and "not wanting to raise taxes" are as empty and shallow as the stalwarts of the minority GOP.
All I can keep thinking is Lieberman is the 21st century Benedict Arnold or the male version of Sarah Palin. In fact, if Lieberman hooked up with Palin for a 2012 ticket for the White House, this could be the quickest way for us to see them both fall into political obscurity and cement their roles as FREAK SHOW curiosities. -
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TANC_Freeman3 weeks, 4 days ago
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Hey Progressive, what does this Alan Grayson comment above have to do with your Colbert video link on Lieberman?
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I'm glad that Grayson has come out so vociferously on Healthcare Reform and challenging the Republican on their bellicose OBSTRUCTIONIST rhetoric, so I don't have problem getting emotional on the House floor about the THOUSANDS of Americans who die every year due to either a lack of insurance coverage or none at all. I haven't seen video of his speech, so I can't really say with any authority if there wasn't some theatrics involved with the alleged crying, but at least Grayson is not trying to incite people like the gas can-carrying, "912 Project" bumpkin/buffoon known as Beck.
I have to admit, though, that the title for Grayson's new site, www.namesofthedead.com, comes off as seeking the most dramatic, attention-getting effect -- but maybe for good reason? The domain title may kind of trigger certain mental associations with the movie, "Faces of Death," and it's something I'm not making light of.
About a month ago, our organization put up a Facebook Cause group, "Wall of Americans VICTIMIZED by Big Health Insurance Companies" (at http://apps.facebook.com/causes/368109/54103574?m=... for anyone to write about themselves, friends or relatives who either had some sort of ongoing problems with their carriers' coverage; those who had died unnecessarily or who are currently terminally ill; and those who were left to suffer with non-life-threatening debilitating conditions due to inadequate or no health insurance coverage.
But I think I will dispense with any personal sentiments or theatrics and let this cause tell the stories of people who write about their own and their family's or friend's "victimization" experiences with Big Healthcare in this country.
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simonsez3 weeks, 4 days ago
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tadair9193 weeks, 4 days ago
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what really miffs people off, is when you point to the hundreds of thousands of people who die annually from hospital infections, unforseen drug reactions, and other life-taking complications that happen to healthy people.
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my cousin died of a hospital infection, after going in for a standard procedure. before that, my aunt, who smoked her entire life, and was trying to quit was also killed by a medical mishap. they asked her if she was a smoker, and she said "no," being that she had quit recently. this information led to doctors giving her a medicine that had a severe reactions to smokers, and killed her. all because she unwittingly and honestly answered "no" to their stupid question.
western medicine challenges the very foundation that providing free health care is always a good thing. indeed, the numbers of people that die from having received treatment, far exceed those numbers who die from not having received it. grayson, and others, call us neanderthal obstructionists, but in the end, once you look at the data, he is the one advocating involuntary manslaughter.-
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hyperbola3 weeks, 4 days ago
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Perhaps you should spread your net wider in looking at statistics. Yes, people die from "medical mistakes". However, there are plenty of countries in the world that do a better job than we do in reducing those mistakes.
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Apart from which, you seem to be suggesting that "treatment" is mandatory. No health system that I know of enforces that (except perhaps in extreme cases of infectious disease).
Much might be gained by using "chinese ideology". You pay the doctor if he keeps you healthy and he pays you if not.
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vor3 weeks, 4 days ago
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He serves Tel Aviv, not Connecticut. And he bows to the neocon godfather on any issue they may affect Israel. I can't for the life of me understand why they continually return him to office. The hardest vote I ever had to cast was a vote for Gore/Lieberman. If it had been the John McCain of '00 on the other side I might have voted differently. One election where I nearly abstained on the national race.
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Endoscopy3 weeks, 4 days ago
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Look at the one issue liberals. Ranting about Leiberman on this issue. Did they bother to find out why he is against it? Of course not. He claims it will raise the cost of health care and he is absolutely correct. The proposed "public option" would emulate Medicare or be part of Medicare. Medicare denies more claims that any insurance company. They also do not pay the full cost of the providers. That is why when you get Medicare you ave to go find doctors that will accept it. They then have to charge other patients more to make up the difference. OOPS!!! Up goes the cost of health care.
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Progressive3 weeks, 4 days ago
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Lieberman Lies To Justify Health Care Filibustering:
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http://thinkprogress.org/2009/10/28/lieberman-publ...
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philbrick3 weeks, 4 days ago
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From a Research 2000 poll, taken in Connecticut last month:
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"Do you favor or oppose creating a government-administered health insurance option that anyone can purchase to compete with private insurance plans?"
Favor Oppose Not Sure
All 68 21 11
So who is he representing?
Lieberman has accepted $2,395,369 in donations from the health sector and $1,033,402 from the insurance industry.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/10/27/79776...
That a-boy Joe, tell 68% of the people you represent to stick it. -
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Progressive3 weeks, 4 days ago
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A look at GOP senator's telecom ties:
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http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20080324...
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