Why does Joe Lieberman oppose healthcare reform? Ask his wife - Salon.com »
Posted By mesodude 1 month ago in Political News
If Democrats are disappointed by Joe Lieberman’s threat to filibuster any healthcare reform bill that includes a public option, they shouldn't be. Despite all of his past promises to support universal healthcare, nothing was more predictable than the Connecticut senator's fealty to the insurance and pharmaceutical lobbyists.
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mesodude1 month ago
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"Joe Lieberman looks a lot like Emperor Palpatine, but the lightning he fires from his fingertips is a completely different color.
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And Mesonude, why would I want to ask his wife anyway? Gross."
--You're really boring so I hope you're satisfying yourself somehow, al.
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memestryker1 month ago
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JL has actually read the document and realizes that it's not about "universal healthcare" and it's also not in the best interest of a lot of people, including the poor ones it pretends to "help".
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A large number who now have decent insurance and have paid their taxes and kept this coverage for 25-30 years will be forced off good insurance plans and into a lesser public option because of the types of jobs they hold.
This bill hurts the middle class that pays the taxes and pretends to help the poor. The poor can go to an emergency room now and not be turned away and the middle class pays for it anyway because costs are already passed on. In the new program, the middle class would be footing the bill off-the-bat, would lose some of their own benefits, and it would force people to buy a product they may not be able to afford. It doesn't solve the problem, which is NOT about having health insurance. It's about getting healthcare.
I'm for reform, but not reform that hurts the middle class and that causes millions to lose benefits they've paid into for their entire working lives for lesser benefits. When you look at the real problem, this won't solve it. Yes, we need more healthcare for the poor, but this plan is disastrous, and will not achieve that objective.-
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ConquerorWyrm1 month ago
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Are you for the type of "reform" that gives the Insurance Industry complete discretion in setting rates, choosing what is covered, when something is covered, what is a pre-existing condition, and when a person can be dropped? These are the Republican "reforms" that have been offered and though the Dem package may not be perfect, it is a far cry from the evil that is pushed by mouth-breathers like the Limbaugh crowd.
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What would be your ideal "reform" and how would you create a system that would cover EVERY American Citizen without placing a disproportionate burden on the American Middle Class? I am asking this with all hope that you will answer. I am looking for an answer. I have an idea along such lines myself and would like to see what others can come up with in the hopes that it betters or strengthens my own ideas. This is called GOVERNMENT working (being that WE THE PEOPLE are the Government). -
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GWHayduke1 month ago
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Why.....one might wonder....are healthcare insurers exempt from the anti-trust laws that govern the rest of businesses in the US?
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To say that this bill hurts middle class Americans is disingenuous at best.
Insurance companies have manipulated the current situation to, in effect, extort funds from those in need and cover those uninsured via ratcheted up costs on those who are insured. -
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mesodude1 month ago
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"JL has actually read the document and realizes that it's not about "universal healthcare" and it's also not in the best interest of a lot of people, including the poor ones it pretends to "help".
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--You have no basis for believing even one word of this
"A large number who now have decent insurance and have paid their taxes and kept this coverage for 25-30 years will be forced off good insurance plans and into a lesser public option because of the types of jobs they hold."
--Pure fiction. Not even remotely true.
"This bill hurts the middle class that pays the taxes and pretends to help the poor. The poor can go to an emergency room now and not be turned away and the middle class pays for it anyway because costs are already passed on. In the new program, the middle class would be footing the bill off-the-bat, would lose some of their own benefits, and it would force people to buy a product they may not be able to afford. It doesn't solve the problem, which is NOT about having health insurance. It's about getting healthcare."
--More misinformation. You're wrong in every conceivable way (again).
"I'm for reform, but not reform that hurts the middle class and that causes millions to lose benefits they've paid into for their entire working lives for lesser benefits. When you look at the real problem, this won't solve it. Yes, we need more healthcare for the poor, but this plan is disastrous, and will not achieve that objective."
-I don't believe you. Name all the Bush admin anti-middle class legislation you opposed. Oh...better question, name anti-middle class legislation from the Bush administration, period. This should be entertaining. Finally, what opposing points of view have you read and why do you disagree with them (because I'm sure you only read and listen to right wing media).
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