How Goldman secretly bet on the U.S. housing crash | McClatchy »

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WASHINGTON — In 2006 and 2007, Goldman Sachs Group peddled more than $40 billion in securities backed by at least 200,000 risky home mortgages, but never told the buyers it was secretly betting that a sharp drop in U.S. housing prices would send the value of those securities plummeting.

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    deathray4 weeks, 1 day ago

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    btw, this sort of activity is not limited to goldman...it's just that they're very, very good at it.

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    engineer4 weeks, 1 day ago

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    May they all end up with Bernie Madoff

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    jordan114 weeks, 1 day ago

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    I can see why having more loans to sell as securities was good for goldman, & how cooking the credit credit and income of people would give them those loans. But I don't see how betting they would fail would profit goldman. Finance not being my strong point, anyone got an answer for that?

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    Justice4All4 weeks, 1 day ago

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    This wasn't much of a bet. I think most of us could see this coming.

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      stephen-johnson4 weeks, 1 day ago

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      With all the Goldman alumni in high government positions, want to bet that no serious investigation of this will ever get launched?

      Looks like Matt Taibbi was right about Goldman.

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      reallypsst4 weeks, 1 day ago

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      Corruption has won because all of our politicians have a stake in wall street,as we saw most of goldman sachs players were hand picked to run in high positions in government,this is not only criminal it is treacherous at most,these people have no honor and are guilty as hell !

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        cowboygrandpa4 weeks ago

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        FTA:

        "Goldman's sales and its clandestine wagers, completed at the brink of the housing market meltdown, enabled the nation's premier investment bank to pass most of its potential losses to others before a flood of mortgage defaults staggered the U.S. and global economies.

        Only later did investors discover that what Goldman had promoted as triple-A rated investments were closer to junk.

        Now, pension funds, insurance companies, labor unions and foreign financial institutions that bought those dicey mortgage securities are facing large losses, and a five-month McClatchy investigation has found that Goldman's failure to disclose that it made secret, exotic bets on an imminent housing crash may have violated securities laws.

        "The Securities and Exchange Commission should be very interested in any financial company that secretly decides a financial product is a loser and then goes out and actively markets that product or very similar products to unsuspecting customers without disclosing its true opinion," said Laurence Kotlikoff, a Boston University economics professor who's proposed a massive overhaul of the nation's banks. "This is fraud and should be prosecuted.""

        The problem is, we continue to allow these corporations to do business in the same ways regardless of the outcome to the investors.

        Take their assets, I mean those in charge. Seize their accounts, take their passports, put them in prison with some mean some hardcore street thieves, who would think nothing of slitting their throats for their commissary purchases.
        Let them see the price they pay for being criminals.

        I'm sick of them being favored because they think they are smart. They are criminals, not smart.

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        coolrayfruge4 weeks ago

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        Karl Marx was right about capitalism.

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          Charlson4 weeks ago

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          If you have your tentacles in government, nothing much will happen to the Goldman Sachs Group. Oh, maybe a few scapegoats but the Group will survive and carry on their corruption of greed but more carefully.

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