Budget Monitor Says G.O.P. Bill Leaves Many Uninsured - Prescriptions Blog - NYTimes.com »
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A Republican alternative to the Democrats' health care plan may have limited impact, a report finds.
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deathray2 weeks, 3 days ago
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according to the cbo, it appears that the republican health care amendment recently submitted by john boehner (r-ohio) does lower insurance premiums for the 83% of americans currently covered by private insurance.
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"The Congressional Budget Office said on Wednesday that an alternative health care bill put forward by House Republicans would have little impact in extending health benefits to the roughly 30 million uninsured Americans, but would reduce average insurance premium costs for people who have coverage.
House Republicans, including their leader, Representative John A. Boehner of Ohio, have said that they did not intend for their legislation to expand insurance coverage, because they viewed that goal as unaffordable. Instead, they said the bill was tailored narrowly to reduce costs."
however, the vast majority of those who are not currently covered by insurance would not be covered at all:
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" The Republican bill, which has no chance of passage, would extend insurance coverage to about 3 million people by 2019, and would leave about 52 million people uninsured, the budget office said, meaning the proportion of non-elderly Americans with coverage would remain about the same as now, at roughly 83 percent.
The budget office has said that the Democrats’ health care proposal would extend coverage to 36 million people, meaning that 96 percent of legal residents would have health benefits. The Democrats’ bill would cost $1.1 trillion, with the costs more than covered by revenues from new taxes or cuts in government spending, particularly on Medicare. "
finally, the cbo analysis determined that the democratic house bill would reduce future deficits by 30 billion usd over the republican bill.
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" According to the report by nonpartisan budget office, the Republican bill would reduce future federal deficits by $68 billion over 10 years, compared to a reduction of $104 billion by the House Democrats’ legislation.
The findings by the budget office mostly seemed to confirm assertions by Democrats that the Republican bill, offered as an amendment to the Democrats’ measure, would do little to change the status quo."
i believe that cost containment measures must be instituted (hat tip to the republican bill) and should be considered in conference, however, i wonder whether the cbo factored in the costs of treating the uninsured in their analysis.
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Beau78902 weeks, 3 days ago
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No, the CBO report doesn't appear to factor in the cost of treatment of the larger number of uninsured. See the link I posted below to the CBO's report. (The one in the article doesn't work).
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The report does discuss how individuals' insurance premiums could be affected:
As another example of that third source of premium changes, the State Innovations
program would induce states to take some actions affecting the average health status
of people with insurance and people without insurance. For example, states that
loosened rating rules in the market for individually purchased insurance to allow
premiums to vary more on the basis of age would cause premiums for older people
to increase and premiums for younger people to decrease. With other factors held
equal, fewer older people (who tend to have higher health care costs) and more
young people (who tend to have lower health care costs) would then sign up for
coverage, and the improved average health status of insured people would lower
average premiums; at the same time, the pool of people without health insurance
would end up being less healthy, on average, than under current law. (The report then notes another report regarding how the CBO analyzes major insurance proposals.)
But there's no actual estimate of how much the premiums would vary, since the cost would depend on how individual states set their own health rating rules. -
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dunkirk2 weeks, 3 days ago
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Its interesting the Republicans find universal health care unaffordable in the face of a mutlitiude of natins doing it successfully yet believe fighting an ideology (terrorism is an ideology) is affordable despite the facts to the contrary. What is apparent is when the Repubs present a plan hold onto to whatever you got since you're bound to lose it while their corporate sponsors get richer.
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Charlson2 weeks, 3 days ago
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Once again the republicans promote a bill that benefit themselves and leave out the ones a true health care reform bill should cover. Selfishness and a unwillingness to help others seems to be a republican behavior that continues unabated.
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Progressive2 weeks, 3 days ago
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FTA:
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“Tonight CBO confirmed that the Republicans’ only solution for health reform is to preserve the status quo,” Mr. Miller said in a statement. “It will leave 52 million Americans literally out in the cold, does nothing to help low-income and middle-class families afford quality health care, and protects insurance companies’ power to deny claims and stand between patients and their doctors.”-
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lovemylibs2 weeks, 3 days ago
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The CBO estimated the number of uninsured at around 30 million. This Mr. Miller apparently likes to use only some of the CBO's stats.
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An estimate that I saw in relation to the 1300 page Democratic bill said that 25 million would remain uninsured in the year 2019. One estimate for the 1990 page offering was that 19 million would remain uninsured by 2019.
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Beau78902 weeks, 3 days ago
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There's a link in the article to the CBO analysis being discussed that doesn't work. If anyone's interested in seeing that report, here's the correct link to download it. It's a 12-page PDF:
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fsev412 weeks, 3 days ago
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Sorry DR but don't know about the uninsured costs but isn't this typical of what you'd expect from the Reps? Take care of those who already have insurance like the rich and the employed and screw the poor and unemployed. The one article I read indicated that the new 3 mil who would be able to afford coverage would not even take care of the uninsured in Texas alone and in the end it would have less of an effect on deficit reduction. Almost looks like they threw a plan together simply so that they could say they proposed a plan and it was rejected.
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deathray2 weeks, 3 days ago
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a couple of things that occur to me:
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1. i think it was tactically important for the gop to present a plan in order to dispel the idea that they were just the party of 'no.'
2. the gop have made the calculus that keeping costs down for consumers will be more beneficial in terms of getting votes than helping to cover the uninsured.
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Newperson2 weeks, 3 days ago
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It's plain to see the gop is only looking after the big money. As always the poor and the ones that really need help do not count.
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Thank you deathray for posting. This is a fight and sometimes it's like we will never see a good end. But it's folks like you that help keep me hopeful that every american can and will have healthcare soon. -
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Bkumm2 weeks, 3 days ago
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How is this a shocker to anyone? When was the last time the Republicans came up with something that was going to do more than either kick an issue down the road or make it worse in the long term? That's not to say that they haven't had their allies in the Democratic Party, but holy smokes.
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I seriously do not know how any members in either Party sleep at night. But, I'd sleep better as a Democrat than as a Republican any night of the week, regardless of my tossing and turning while my churning conscious screams at me. -
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coppolarco22 weeks, 2 days ago
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We the public really have no choice and you know it...except to bombard Congress with outrage...Maybe, just maybe, the Democrats (mainly) that are up for re-election will not go along with a government run national health reform package sending us further along the path of self destruction and stand tall....The American People have a right to see and know about both plans.
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eclectic2 weeks, 2 days ago
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Of course, the GOP plan will cover only a few people. The party is against big government, ie big plans. An anomoly was Bush's prescription plan for seniors but that was for political purposes, and it didn't add to the deficit as there were no plans for paying for it. ( I am being sarcastic.)
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