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Well, as it is the law, it's the same for ALL employees.
So, there is no real "unfair competition" of some companies (small or large) not to give the vacation.
They ALL HAVE to give it to their employees.
Some larger companies though might give you more (called "extra legal") for some employees, depending of grade and/or (usually) number of years working for the same companies.
The 4 weeks is the minimum in (West) Europe. Depending of country, the legal minimum can be more (e.g. France is 5 weeks). Some countries however give more than the legal minimum: e.g. France, minimum is 5 weeks, but because of agreements in most companies, and extra hours work (e.g. for practical, reasons working 38 hours a week in stead of the legal 35 hours, most French have 6 or 7 weeks legal.
Also, there is no maximum number of "sick days". You are sick, so you are sick and you don't work the time needed to get better. During that time you can not loose your job/get fired, AND you get payed (normally however after 4 weeks strait, only 80 or 75% of normal salary (that salary from then on being paid by the national health care insurance, not by the employer).
Again, there are variations depending of country.

Same goes for "maternity leave"

And all employers can effort it, as it is the same for all and there can not be an unfair advantage for one not doing it.

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  truthiness1 month, 3 weeks ago
  
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  I get that all small employers have to do, but small business, by definition, only makes so much money... paying your employees not be there for a month, that seems devastating.
  
  think about how many people are on the dole. now remove the requirement from small business, and think about how many job opening become available
  
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    traveler20001 month, 3 weeks ago
    
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    ***...paying your employees not be there for a month, that seems devastating.....**
    
    Not really, as it is calculated into the pricing of business.
    As all have to do it, they have to make the same pricing.
    
    As for "people on the dole" or unemployed, when corrected for some differences in calculations, they are about the same in the US as in Europe.
    Also because of vacation, you tend to have to hire more.
    Further more, even if unemployed in Europe, you still have the "social safety net" to take care of unemployed (and even unemployed,in some European countries have "paid vacation"
    
    also an interesting site I found:
    http://www.taurillon.org/Europe-vs-USA-Whose-Econo...
    interesting is the conclusion:
    Comparing the economic performance of the European Union and the USA does not lead one to conclude that America has the more dynamic economy, or that it has performed better in the past or will do so in future. The most important feature of the comparison is neither the growth nor the unemployment record of the US and the EU. It is, rather, that US growth, unlike that in the EU, is funded by a dangerously high mountain of foreign debt. US external indebtedness, in turn, is driven by the US house-price bubble, enabling US consumers to spend more than they earn. Ironically, it is the EU which, together with China and Japan, continues to lend the money to the US which keeps their households spending and their economy growing.
    
    The truth is that neither side ‘wins’ in this beauty contest. Europe merely does less badly than the USA in some crucial respects. Yes, while it is true that the core Eurozone countries could perform far better, Germany, France and Italy have quite different problems – in comparison both to the US and to each other – which require quite different solutions. Anybody who claims that the US provides a model which the EU should copy needs to consider the basic economic facts of the case.
    
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      truthiness1 month, 3 weeks ago
      
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      I wasn't suggesting ours was better, I was just wondering how they paid for that.
      
      paid vacation for the unepmloyed, really? that is ridiculous.
      
      interesting points though
      
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