Iran's President Tells US "Ditch Israel" As Pre-Condition To Closer Ties. »
Posted By Mikunited 1 week, 4 days ago in News
Ahmadinejad's comments came hours after Tehran's prosecutor announced spying charges against three Americans in a move that threatened to plunge US-Iranian relations to a fresh low.
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b-happy1 week, 4 days ago
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We would ditch Israel because we have a weak president that would throw Israel under the bus so we can be friends with a dictator like Iran. Just look at how close Obama and Chavez are. They looked like best friends. I remember Chavez tried to give Obama some communist book and Obama replied " sorry but I already have that one in my personal collection."
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b-happy1 week, 4 days ago
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Ya I'm sure he has a lot of nice things to say about us. He always does. Like America is the devil and Israel should be wiped of the earth.
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Maybe this time he is actually saying that he wants to meet your mother and learn how to bake Apple Pies. Oh ya and he wants to save all the puppies and open up a charity for blind kids.
What a joke some of you people are! Such weaklings.
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toph19731 week, 4 days ago
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b-happy1 week, 4 days ago
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WHy would you want to have closer ties to the Arab World? You support stoning of women who get raped? You support women having to hide their faces from the world? You support lashings of people because they said something about the government? You support the Arab flow of money into terrorist groups that kill innocent people around the world? You support governments that kill Gays and hate black people?
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Think about it before you write such crap. BTW, the Arab world despises you for being an American . Add that one to the list. -
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Anne31 week, 3 days ago
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You seem to be amazingly stupid in your views...Do you even KNOW why we support Isael?
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Cuttng ties with them would be the worst we could do. iT'S UNBELIEVABLE the level of anti-semetics in the U.S. I'mthinking maybe it's the 30 something liberals who think they know everything when they don't know jack!
Why do you support cutting ties? What grand scheme would benefit? You really think that the radical muslims would give up the fight because we would...Not a chance in h3ll! We are the Satan, the devil and they would like to wipe us off the face of the earth too. And it's NOT just our ties with Israel. To them, America is a wasteland. To them, they are on a Holy Mission and we are nothing but "infidels". America's values and morality is in the toilet and getting worse...They want nothing to do with us but destroy us...And there is no befriending a country like that. I find the level of stupidity appalling.
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Albmore1 week, 4 days ago
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LOLbama1 week, 4 days ago
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History indicates that the US-Israeli relationship is one-way. The USS Liberty, Israeli spies in the US, etc. I wouldn't trust Immanutjob as far as I could throw him but we need to keep our eyes on Israel too; step on their toes when dealing with them. Out of this I guess the US gets a "friend" in the area.
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jeff12141 week, 3 days ago
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So urme how many times are you going to post the same nonsense. The Liberty was investigated by 10 Congressional committees TEN. Reparations were paid to all the families and Israel apologized, so what else do you want? So did the Arabs apologize for 911, the destroyer Cole or the killing of our marines in Lebanon done by the Shias? FYI Israel has done alot for this country in technology but of course being ignorant, you wouldn't know about this. The US also has killed civilians and Chinese diplomats. We apologized, paid reparations and the incident was forgotten. But with some bigots Israel will always stick in their throats.
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rimbaud1 week, 4 days ago
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They don't know what they want, from day to day. The Iranians can't even keep up their end of a negotiation. Their negotiators agree to something, one day, and their government changes it's mind the next. Just release our people and go back to singing your tired old "rozeh".
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rimbaud1 week, 4 days ago
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http://www.iranian.com/history.html
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Thinker221 week, 3 days ago
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> They don't know what they want, from day to day.
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Oh, they know very well what they want, my friend. They want nuclear weapons and in order todo it they need time. This is the reason they're playing these little games with the naive Western fools while the centrifuges are spinning and the ballistic missiles are being built.
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truthiness1 week, 4 days ago
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clearly this isn't going to happen. He has managed to find a way to avoid negotiating with the US while still looking good to his people.
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I fully support Obama's policy of greater negotiations instead of the cowboy foreign policy of Bush. I just hope their is a line where he is willing to say..this isn't working. -
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jeff12141 week, 3 days ago
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So now Iran wants to tell us who to have as friends. Nice. Now do we really want to be friendly with Islamic fundamentalist Mullahs who repress democracy in their own country and answer only to Allah? Iranians are the bad boys of the Islamic world who have already dominated Lebanon and refused to disarm under the agreement brokered by the UN. They are arming their proxy Hizbollah to the teeth and have the missiles already in place aimed at Israeli cities. Israel is a democracy and there aren't too many around. Democracies help democracies. Aside from that the Mullahs believe their Messiah will only come if they destroy their enemies which is most of the ME besides Israel. So if it's a choice between an old friend or theocratic Mullahs who want the world destroyed and the virgins, I vote Israel.
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tehranchik1 week, 3 days ago
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This is for b-happy (who isn't very happy) and thinker.
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Before we get to the infamous remark, it's important to note that the "quote" in question was itself a quote – they are the words of the late Ayatollah Khomenei, the father of the Islamic Revolution. Although he quoted Khomeini to affirm his own position on Zionism, the actual words belong to Khomeini and not Ahmadinejad. Thus, Ahmadinejad has essentially been credited (or blamed) for a quote that is not only unoriginal, but represents a viewpoint already in place well before he ever took office.
The Actual Quote:
So what did Ahmadinejad actually say? To quote his exact words in Farsi:
"Imam ghoft een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad."
That passage will mean nothing to most people, but one word might ring a bell: rezhim-e. It is the word "regime." pronounced just like the English word with an extra "eh" sound at the end. Ahmadinejad did not refer to Israel the country or Israel the land mass, but the Israeli regime. This is a vastly significant distinction, as one cannot wipe a regime off the map. Ahmadinejad does not even refer to Israel by name, he instead uses the specific phrase "rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods" (regime occupying Jerusalem).
So this raises the question.. what exactly did he want "wiped from the map"? The answer is: nothing. That's because the word "map" was never used. The Persian word for map, "nagsheh" is not contained anywhere in his original Farsi quote, or, for that matter, anywhere in his entire speech. Nor was the western phrase "wipe out" ever said. Yet we are led to believe that Iran's president threatened to "wipe Israel off the map." despite never having uttered the words "map." "wipe out" or even "Israel."
The Proof:
The full quote translated directly to English:
"The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time."
Word by word translation:
Imam (Khomeini) ghoft (said) een (this) rezhim-e (regime) ishghalgar-e (occupying) qods (Jerusalem) bayad (must) az safheh-ye ruzgar (from page of time) mahv shavad (vanish from).
Here is the full transcript of the speech in Farsi, archived on Ahmadinejad's web site
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tehranchik1 week, 3 days ago
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My opinion - I think he (ahmadinejad) feels the same way about the regime in Israel as many americans feel about the bush regime. We'd like it to disappear from history as it is an embarrassment in front of the world. The corruption abounds.
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