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Posted By avoth 1 week, 6 days ago in Political OpinionThe second they heard about the Fort Hood massacre, millions of thinking Americans wondered in their gut: "Oh God, is this another crazy Muslim terrorist carrying out a one-man jihad, as has happened so many times before?"
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GregD1 week, 5 days ago
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It boggles my mind that feeling differently from the author (and many on here) must mean that I hold the exact opposite viewpoint, hence a "love of Islam". A, you're either FOR us or AGAINST us mentality.
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Some of us choose to believe that some things are unexplainable, like the propensity for killilng or "snapping", and have little to do with race, sexual orientation, or even religion.
From the article, "The second they heard about the Fort Hood massacre, millions of thinking Americans wondered in their gut: 'Oh God, is this another crazy Muslim terrorist...'" Really? Is this the FIRST reaction people had to this news? Why must the author imply that I'm an UNTHINKING American if this wasn't my first reaction or first question? My gut was telling me to think of these poor families. I wanted these mothers, wives, sons, daughters, husbands, and fathers to be okay. Some of us choose to not buy into the fear, uncertainty and doubt that 8 years of BushCo attempted to jam down our throats. And I'm tired of the implications that there's something wrong with me for that.
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avoth1 week, 6 days ago
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"Do we dare admit what is really at play here? The truth is actually very simple.
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We are afraid of Islam.
We are intimidated by Islam. "
OK, how many Conservatives fit these qualifications? I'm betting not a single one. To be honest, I don't even believe the liberals are afraid of or intimidated by Islam. At the very least, they won't admit to it. If that's the case, the answer has to be something else. What is it in Islam that causes liberals to, in the author's words, "fawn over Islam"?
The article states, "This syndrome has just gotten worse since the ascension to the presidency of Barack Obama, who takes every opportunity to criticize America and fawn over Islam – even calling America "one of the largest Muslim countries in the world" and bowing obsequiously before the Muslim king of Saudi Arabia."
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Sabretooth1 week, 5 days ago
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Let's see, how many Muslims army bases are currently occupying countries other then their own at the moment...please list them. How many Muslim armies are currently occupying other countries at the moment? Alrighty, now compare that to the Americans. Yup, seems Christians kill on a much wider scale and then they rob your country blind of its' resources.
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ChefEOD1 week, 6 days ago
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There is a world of difference between “We are afraid of Islam. We are intimidated by Islam. ", and being fearful of Islam. The first would imply that such fear is irrational and is cowardly. Being fearful of Islam is neither when such comes from having a true understanding of the extent of the threat. Not unlike I can be afraid of and intimidated of that freight train coming at me when I am standing on the track until you realize that you can do something about it. In the case of the train you can simply step out of the way. To not be fearful of Islam is irrational given its history, past and present.
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Unfortunately Islam’s is a religion that is very bloody, violent and intolerant, and has been so since its inception. The Koran and other statements of Muslim beliefs contain few prohibitions on violence, and the concept of nonviolence is absent from Muslim doctrine and practice. The very name Islam translates "submission". The Koran plainly teaches that all who will not submit and convert must die and every last mother's child is taught that from birth. This is an enemy whose mothers strap bombs to their children and send them off with a prayer. This is an enemy who fights from behind the skirts of their wives and mothers. We have now witnessed two incidents of this level of extremism in the US but more is coming.-
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Dionys1 week, 6 days ago
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" Unfortunately Islam’s is a religion that is very bloody, violent and intolerant, and has been so since its inception. The Koran and other statements of Muslim beliefs contain few prohibitions on violence, and the concept of nonviolence is absent from Muslim doctrine and practice. The very name Islam translates "submission". The Koran plainly teaches that all who will not submit and convert must die and every last mother's child is taught that from birth. This is an enemy whose mothers strap bombs to their children and send them off with a prayer. This is an enemy who fights from behind the skirts of their wives and mothers. We have now witnessed two incidents of this level of extremism in the US but more is coming."
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Utter lies about Islam. The Qu'ran doesn't teach any of these things any more than the Bible does. -
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willottica1 week, 6 days ago
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Unfortunately Islam’s is a religion that is very bloody, violent and intolerant, and has been so since its inception.
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... and so is Christianity. I really liked the part of the text where they start to talk about "Religion X", because, if you're willing, you can easily see the parallels.
As far as the article goes though, I agree. They shouldn't have ignored warning signs because of the guy's religion, and not wanting to appear intolerant. It's this kind of "reverse racism" (which, let's face it, is DISCRIMINATION, no matter how you cut it) that actually increases racism in the general population because it causes inequalities.
I wouldn't call is actions jihad-like though. To me, it seemed that this man was very much against the current war, wasn't given a choice to stay out of it, and thus was forced by his superiors to decide which side he was on. He decided that he couldn't side with the country that had invaded a foreign land and was continuing to occupy it. He couldn't kill those who were trying to defend their own lands from an occupying force. If he had been able, it sounded like he would have left the army - but they wouldn't let him.
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ChefEOD1 week, 6 days ago
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This is an enemy with a religious conviction that it is their duty to kill all those who do not believe as they do. This is an enemy who after centuries believes they now have the numbers and the power to dominate the world. The Wahhabi theology today underpins the modern jihadist movement and has followers all over the Muslim world. "If you don't convert to my way of thinking I have a God-given right to kill you; in fact, I have a religious duty to kill you." That in sum is Wahhabism, a theology that a large % of Muslims say they find deeply offensive but yet have and do nothing to stop or even diminish its influence
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At the present time, Shia and other non-Wahhabi Muslim community leaders estimate that 80 percent of American mosques are under Wahhabi control. This does not mean 80 percent of American Muslims support Wahhabism, although the main Wahhabi ideological agency in America, the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) has claimed that some 70 percent of American Muslims want Wahhabi teaching in their mosques. Paul Marshall, a renowned human rights expert put it this way, "the killings in Nigeria and the killings in New York on 9/11 happened for the same reason. We don't really think people do things for religious reasons. These people do. They die for religious reasons. They kill for religious reasons. And unless we understand their religion, we will not understand them at all," Marshall says it's not about America's presence in Muslim lands nor support for Israel, or about alienation or poverty. It's about getting rid of the biggest obstacle to an Islamic planet: the United States. -
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ChefEOD1 week, 6 days ago
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A study by the Council on American Islamic Relations says hundreds of new mosques have been built in the United States in the last 20 years. Estimates on the number of American Muslims vary widely, from three to eight million. Stephen Schwartz, author of The Two Faces of Islam, says we should not be alarmed by the growth of Islam in the United States, but by who controls it. "I would say billions of dollars have been spent in the United States to advance Wahhabism," Schwartz said. "The Wahhabi sect, backed by Saudi Arabia, controls 70 to 80 percent of the mosques in the United States. That means they control the teaching, the preaching, the literature that's distributed, and they control the training of the Imams. They control all the Imams in the federal and state prisons, and they control the imams in the U.S. military. That is, they instruct, they indoctrinate and they certify the chaplains in the federal and state prison systems and in the military."
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In a recent survey of 6,000 Muslims in 14 countries published in Studies in Conflict & Terrorism, females were more likely to support terrorism than were males. What's more, married and unmarried persons are equally likely to support terrorism. Age matters less than one may think at first, in the same survey, some 47 percent of 62-year-olds surveyed were inclined to support terrorism. That percentage was only 10 points higher for 18-year-olds. This tells us that Muslims of all ages, from all walks of life believe and support terrorism; it isn't confined to a few people who have "become hopeless". I know it is "nice" to think that and difficult to believe and understand otherwise but those with this mindset had better wise up and come to grips with the facts. -
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ChefEOD1 week, 6 days ago
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Back in February 2002, Gallup Poll released the results of polling data that may yield a more scientific estimation of the size of Islamic Fundamentalism. About 10,000 adult Muslims in nine Islamic countries were polled. 15% of those polled said that the September 11th attacks on the WTC and the Pentagon were morally justified. If this percentage is found to be representative of the entire Muslim worldwide population, then it could be argued that there is statistical evidence to support the claim that there may be as many as 180 million adult Fundamentalist Muslims who believe that the September 11th attacks were morally justified. If an equal number of Muslim children agree with their adult counterparts, then it could also be argued that there may be as many as 360 million fundamentalist Muslims who believe that the September 11th attacks were morally justified.
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You can attempt to argue that the US activity in the Mid-East in the past years has fueled that hatred but it is both simple and foolish to think that if we were not over there we would all be bosom buddies. The hatred taught has been going on for centuries. We are dealing with it now in our time because their beliefs have gained widespread popularity over the past couple of generations. TV and the internet is now possible in every home on the planet and for the first time they as a people are understanding how poverty stricken their culture has become despite the "fact" that they are Allah's chosen. And they see the riches Western Culture has, (despite our being morally bankrupt unbelievers) the wealth and power achieved in the past several centuries and most recently in the US, and at the same time they abhor our culture and its wickedness. And so our very existence is in effect a denial of their beliefs. This is being taught to the Muslim masses as a "test" of their beliefs; Allah has left it to them to cast down the infidels to prove their faith and interesting enough the Koran's writings of the "last days" teach just that. -
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ChefEOD1 week, 6 days ago
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Let me end with this tid-bit of information and consider all of its implications with what else I have shared. The United Nations defines "major wars" as military conflicts inflicting 1,000 battlefield deaths per year. In 1965, there were 10 major wars under way. The new millennium began with much of the world consumed in armed conflict or cultivating an uncertain peace. As of mid-2005, there were eight Major Wars under way [down from 15 at the end of 2003], with as many as two dozen "lesser" conflicts ongoing with varying degrees of intensity. Of those apx 75% involve Muslim extremists. Recent figures don’t seem to be available (perhaps because the whole world is intimidated into political correctiveness?) but I doubt the statistics have improved at all.
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pokydoke1 week, 6 days ago
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People have a right to worship as they choose. Regardless of their religious affiliation we need to respect that right.I don't think that allowing people that right is fawning over them. We need to realize that there are many Muslims in this country and of these many very few are guilty of terrorism. I might also want to add that the killing of Dr Tiller was a terrorist act committed by a Christian and I don't think any of you would want to put all Christians under terrorist watch lists. We live in an open society and these kinds of things are unfortunately going to happen. We don't blame all Christians when the Westboro Baptist Church goes and spreads their hate. We shouldn't blame all Muslims when a few go bad, it only makes sense.
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reallypsst1 week, 6 days ago
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The fact is we have to watch every religious fanatic and its almost impossible,as far as islam goes its not a few people, in some parts of the world its whole countries that have this radical view,and as religions go islam is more like a cult who treat women like animals,the reality is religion is what you make it !
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NoWayMan1 week, 6 days ago
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these stupid blogs.
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americanthinker. wnd. rightperspective.
they can't even get the dam premise of a simple arguement correct, especailly since you could say the same about christianity, the religion of choice of home grown terrorists throughout our history. -
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ChefEOD1 week, 5 days ago
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So also is no religion. For proof simply look at the atheist regimes of Red-China, Stalin, Hoxha; Kim il-Sung, to name a few.
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The Soviet Union tops the list killing nearly 61,000,000 people. Stalin himself is responsible for almost 43,000,000 of these. Most of the deaths, perhaps around 39,000,000 are due to lethal forced labor in gulag and transit thereto. Communist China up to 1987, but mainly from 1949 through the Cultural Revolution, which alone may have seen over 1,000,000 murdered. Then we have then Nationalist government of China under Chiang Kai-shek, which murdered near 10,000,000 Chinese from 1928 to 1949. Japanese militarists who murdered almost 6,000,000 Chinese, Indonesians, Indochinese, Koreans, Filipinos, and others during world War II. And then there are the 1,000,000 or more Bengalis and Hindus killed in East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) in 1971 by the Pakistan military. Nor should we forget the mass expulsion of ethnic Germans and German citizens from Eastern Europe at the end of World War II, particularly by the Polish government as it seized the German Eastern Territories, killing perhaps over 1,000,000 of them. Nor should we ignore the 1,000,000 plus deaths in Mexico from 1900 to 1920, many of these poor Indians and peasants being killed by forced labor on barbaric haciendas.
Combine all Monotheist religions together and they have not done nearly the damage nor murders committed by the non-religious governments of the world.
The point? That man himself is evil and murderous and has been so since the dawn of time and despite how advanced and educated and cultured we are today, it has only gotten worse. We need no excuse, religion is just convenient to blame.
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