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canadianrancher571 month, 2 weeks ago
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Politics and religion what a joke, people who are corrupted by either will end up being the end of us all, oh! I nearly forgot that is the objective of religion, as for politicians it's just a case of "I've got the power". Obama tried to flex his muscle and now the Prime Minister of Israel is flexing his muscle. Honestly, I'm beginning to think that no one really wants peace in this area, well maybe not those who could actually make a difference.
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If this comment makes very little sense it's because I'm so damned p*ssed off at myself for ever entertaining the thought that there will be peace in this area, all people ever do in the Mid East is poke their neighbors with a stick and then b*tch when there is retaliation, this comment goes for either side whether the US is involved or not.-
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Thinker221 month, 2 weeks ago
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> Honestly, I'm beginning to think that no one really wants peace in this area, well maybe not those who could actually make a difference.
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If tomorrow Israel will remove all settlements, all military bases, all checkposts and will completely withdraw from the West Bank to the 1949 armistice lines... will there be peace, in your opinion?-
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canadianrancher571 month, 2 weeks ago
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To be honest about it Thinker22, I would likely have to say no. There would be still those on the other side that will stick with the idea that their land was stolen. I have never spent a great deal of time reading on the whole issue, but was there ever a compensation to those who lost their land when Israel was formed. Plus there is the religious part of it which likely won't ever be settled.
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Justice4All1 month, 2 weeks ago
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If someone takes your home and then later offers to return just the porch would anyone be happy? One side say's hey look what we gave you and the other side says it was ours to begin with and you still have our house. I wouldn't be very happy.
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Thinker221 month, 2 weeks ago
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> I have never spent a great deal of time reading on the whole issue, but was there ever a compensation to those who lost their land when Israel was formed.
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It depends what you call "their land". Each and every person who's privately owned land was taken by Israel (there were not many) had and has the right to bring his/her case to court and demand compensation. Those, however, who declared the land to be "theirs" simply because they or their relatives lived in the area were not.
Prior to 1947 the Jews privately owned about 9% of the land in Palestine and the Arabs owned about 11%. The remaining 80% of the land was not privately owned and, therefore, neither side could declare these lands "their". The Arabs, however, claim that ALL lands that were not PRIVATELY owned by Jews somehow belonged to them.
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tchef1 month, 2 weeks ago
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Both sides need to determine a peace agreement and stick to it no matter what radical factions on each side do to derail the process. Then together they must go after and put down the radical factions. Each time they come even a little close to peace someone on one side or the other does something to derail it and the whole thing falls apart.
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Thinker221 month, 2 weeks ago
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> Both sides need to determine a peace agreement and stick to it no matter what radical factions on each side do to derail the process.
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I fully agree. This, however, requires BOTH SIDES to be ABLE AND WILLING to negotiate a peace agreement. As of now only one side (Israel) satisfies these requirements.-
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tchef1 month, 2 weeks ago
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The Palestinians can't agree because their government is too fractured. This is situation that Israel perpetuates. Israel needs to stop building settlements in disputed land. They do this only to keep peace from happening. This is why I'm sick of both sides. Arafat used our aid to enrich himself. He never really worked for peace. Cut aid to both sides.
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Thinker221 month, 2 weeks ago
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> The Palestinians can't agree because their government is too fractured.
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You're saying that the Palestinians can't agree because they can't agree. Should the rest of the world including Israel wait for them to agree while Palestinian terrorists murder innocent civilians?
> This is situation that Israel perpetuates.
HOW and WHY? You're blaming Israel for Palestinians' inability to agree among themselves. HOW can Israel do it and WHY would Israel be willing to do it, in your opinion? In addition, if the Palestinians can not agree among themselves is it prudent to expect them to achieve an agreement with Israel?
> Israel needs to stop building settlements in disputed land.
What about the Palestinians? Should they stop building THEIR settlements in disputed land as well? If they SHOULD why didn't you demand it? If they SHOULD NOT why the discrimination?
> They do this only to keep peace from happening.
This brings us to my original question: if tomorrow Israel will remove ALL settlements, ALL military bases, ALL checkposts from ALL of the West Bank and will withdraw to the 1949 cease fire lines - WILL THERE BE PEACE? If the answer is NO then it means that your claim above is false. If, however, the answer is YES then it means that BOTH Palestinian Charters (Constitutions) are LIES, that Palestinian leaders are LIARS and that the wars and terrorism in the Middle East prior to 1967 (when there were no settlements) simply DID NOT HAPPEN.
> Arafat used our aid to enrich himself. He never really worked for peace.
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tchef1 month, 2 weeks ago
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What settlements have the Palestinians built in Israel? Israel Continues to push deeper and deeper into land that is supposed to be Palestinian. That is a fact. Why do you think they do it? It certainly isn't to get closer to the Palestinians because they love them. Israel has killed plenty of civilians as well. Israel is not the innocent victim.
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Thinker221 month, 2 weeks ago
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> What settlements have the Palestinians built in Israel?
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Palestinians do not build settlements in the Jewish state and Israel does not build settlements in any of the Arab states.
You see, Israel is NOT "disputed territories", Tchef. You've demanded Israel to stop building settlements in "disputed territories" and I've asked if the Palestinians had to stop building THEIR settlements in the very same "disputed territories". NOT is Israel.
> Continues to push deeper and deeper into land that is supposed to be Palestinian. That is a fact.
No, it is NOT a "fact", Tchef. I'm not sure what your "suppositions" are based upon but there is no land that is "supposed", "assumed" or otherwise set aside to become "Palestinian" when the Palestinians will agree to accept it. The FACT is that only the lands defined as 'Palestinian' in the yet not existing peace agreement will become Palestinian and I can guarantee you that not a single settlement or even a single Jew will stay there.
> Why do you think they do it? It certainly isn't to get closer to the Palestinians because they love them.
As you, probably, know by now these lands do not belong to ANY state and claiming that people of particular race or religion HAVE the right to live there while people of a different race or religion DO NOT have such right is nothing but racism. I'm not a racist. I believe that any people have the right to live there, Jews and Arabs, Blacks and Whites, Muslims and Christians.
> Israel has killed plenty of civilians as well. Israel is not the innocent victim.
Unfortunately, no country has the magical weapon that hits bad guys only, Tchef. Even Israel. As long as the Arabs in general and the Palestinian Arabs in particular insist that the war against Israel should continue it will continue and people will be killed. Israel is doing everything possible to avoid civilian casualties. Unfortunately, Palestinian militants tend to use their own civilian men, women and children as shields. If it was not the case no Palestinian civilians would be killed.
You still did not answer my question: if tomorrow Israel will remove ALL settlements, ALL military bases, ALL checkposts from ALL of the West Bank and will withdraw to the 1949 cease fire lines - WILL THERE BE PEACE? If you have troubles answering this question I'll make your task easier by offering two canned answers below. I'm asking you to select ONE:
1. YES, if Israel will fully withdraw from the West Bank there will be peace.
2. NO, there will be no peace even if Israel will fully withdraw from the West Bank.-
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tchef1 month, 2 weeks ago
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Those lands are disputed. We are not talking about race, we are talking about citizens of one nation expanding beyond that Nation's recognized borders.
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* In 1967, the municipal borders of Jerusalem were extended to include all of the Old City as well as other areas. Residents within the new municipal borders were offered the choice between citizenship (subject to a few restrictions) and permanent residency (if they wished to retain their Jordanian passports). This annexation has not been recognized by any foreign country.
* The Sinai, Gaza Strip, and West Bank were put under Israeli military occupation. Residents were not offered citizenship or residency, though they typically had de facto work permits within Israel and freedom of travel there.
* In 1978, Israel forcibly evacuated its citizens from the Sinai and demolished their homes when the area was returned to Egypt pursuant to the Camp David Accords. The last Israeli community in the area, Yamit, was evacuated in early 1982.
* In 1980, the Knesset asserted Jerusalem's status as the nation's "eternal and indivisible capital" by passing the Jerusalem Law.
* In 1980 the UN declared the Jerusalem Law "null and void", and the Security Council in resolution 465 ordered Israel to dismantle the settlements.
* In 1981, Israel extended its law to the Golan Heights, passing the Golan Heights Law, which granted permanent residency, ID cards, and Israeli citizenship to the residents, but did not formally annex the territory.
* In 2003 Israel and the Palestinians agreed the Road map for peace plan, where Israel undertook to freeze settlement building to accompany unconditional cessation of Palestinian terror and violence.[16][17]-
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tchef1 month, 2 weeks ago
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* In August 2005, all settlements in the Gaza Strip and four in the northern West Bank[6] (or northern Samaria)[18] were forcibly evacuated as part of Israel's unilateral disengagement plan.
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* In 2007 Israel decided to build 300 more Israeli homes in the Har Homa neighborhood of East Jerusalem, near Bethlehem. The move was condemned by the United States and the European Union.[19]
* In early 2008, the Jerusalem municipality said it planned to build 600 new housing units. US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice stated in response that settlement expansion should stop and was inconsistent with 'road map' obligations.[20]
* In 2009, US President Barack Obama demanded a complete freeze on settlement construction in the West Bank and East Jerusalem. The Israeli government agreed to a freeze in the West Bank. Peace Now argued that Israel was attempting to fool the United States.[21] On 25 August 2009 Netanyahu said that he would attempt to gain an agreement with the U.S. to continue building settlements before attempting to talk with the Palestinians.[22] On 28 August 2009 US officials said they would not impose conditions on the parties, but that it would be up to the parties themselves to determine if the threshold for talks had been met.[23] Education Minister Gideon Sa'ar defended the freeze as an attempt to "protect the vital interests - Jerusalem and the relationship with the United States - and to avoid national isolation, because we won't be able to do the things close to our hearts while under international isolation."[24]
* On 6 September 2009, Hamas leader Khalid Mashaal called Israel's proposal to temporarily halt settlement construction in exchange for improved relations with Arab countries "Dangerous". The Hamas leader's opposition to the Israeli proposal was supported by Arab League Secretary General Amr Moussa.[25]-
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Thinker221 month, 2 weeks ago
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I'm not sure about the reasons you've posted the long list of events above but I believe that the last statement these is a good summary of the Palestinian (and Arab in general) attitude towards peace (Hamas leader Khalid Mashaal called Israel's proposal to temporarily halt settlements in exchange for improved relations with Arab countries "Dangerous". The Hamas leader's opposition to the Israeli proposal was supported by Arab League Secretary Amr Moussa.)
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Thinker221 month, 2 weeks ago
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> I posted the list to show that the land is disputed...
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...and I'm still waiting for you to explain the reasons you have a problem with citizens of one state (Israel) building settlements there while you, apparently have no problems with [former] citizens of another state (Jordan) to do the same.
> ...and to show a history of building settlements by Israel in lands that are not considered theirs.
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tchef1 month, 2 weeks ago
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The Palestinians. That's who. They are not Jordanians. They did not come over from Jordan to "colonize" Israel. These are lands governed by the Palestinian authority. Which is recognized by Israel.
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What's your solution? Israel just keeps expanding until all the Palestinians are pushed out of it's borders into the surrounding countries? Oh that will stop the rocket fire.
My personal thought would be that both people could live as equal citizens in one country called Israel-Palestine. But I think we both know how much chance there is of that happening.-
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Thinker221 month, 2 weeks ago
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> The Palestinians.
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I've asked you to NAME THE STATE these lands belong to. "Palestinians" are NOT a state. The West Bank WAS part of Jordan during the years between 1948 to 1967 and people living there were holding Jordanian citizenship. I've already shown you the official document (the Peace Treaty between Jordan and Israel) proving that ALL lands between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea were within internationally recognized boundaries of Israel.
> What's your solution?
An independent sovereign Arab Palestinian state (or states) that will peacefully exist alongside Israel within mutually accepted borders that will be defined by the future peace agreement.
> My personal thought would be that both people could live as equal citizens in one country called Israel-Palestine.
You, probably, know that BOTH Arabs and Jews do not want this to happen. You, obviously, know that these two peoples do not like each other very much and that they have different cultures, different languages, different religions, etc. Why don't you recommend the Palestinian Arabs to become citizens of Jordan, for example? 70% of the population there are Palestinians and have the same culture, history, language, religion and everything else. In addition, Palestinian Arabs and Jordanian Arabs do not hate each other. It seems that the chances of Greater Jordan to happen are much higher than "one country called Israel-Palestine".
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tchef1 month, 2 weeks ago
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Israel's response to the rocket fire was overly heavy handed. The rockets that are being fired at them are basically heavy model rockets that do little more than make noise. Here is an article that I submitted about this.
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http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/12/27/these-ar...
As for your last question I choose answer number 2. I really don't think that there will be peace in this region. There is enough hate on both sides to keep it going for years. This is why I support cutting off aid to both sides. Let AIPAC spend its money on Israel and let the Arab league spend it's on Palestine.-
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Thinker221 month, 2 weeks ago
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> Israel's response to the rocket fire was overly heavy handed.
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As I've explained above the very fact that the rocket fire continues proves that the Israeli response was INADEQUATE. You see, wars are being fought with a goal to win them, NOT TO cause equal (but limited) damage to the enemy.
> As for your last question I choose answer number 2. I really don't think that there will be peace in this region.
This proves that your earlier claim about Israeli settlements was wrong and that, according to you, Palestinian violence would continue with or without settlements.
> This is why I support cutting off aid to both sides.
As I've explained earlier cutting aid will do more harm than good to all sides. Israel will have to use cheaper and less precise (but not less effective) weapons to protect its citizens and its territory from Palestinian militants. As a result, the number of Palestinians killed will increase and the Palestinians will blame both Israel and the US for it. The US will lose its most effective means to pressure both Israel and the Palestinians and the Arab states (as well as Iran) may dcecide that without US aid Israel is weakened enough for a new large scale military attack. As a result, a new large scale war in the area will result in hundreds of thousands killed and the prices of oil worldwide will skyrocket sending the world economy to a crisis we can not even imagine.-
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tchef1 month, 2 weeks ago
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"The US will lose its most effective means to pressure both Israel " This is what I'm talking about. Let's use that means. Cut the funding until real progress for peace is achieved. Until we do so we are simply supporting the status quo.
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Thinker221 month, 2 weeks ago
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> Let's use that means. Cut the funding until real progress for peace is achieved.
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I've asked you a simple question, Tchef, "Will cutting the US aid to Israel make Palestinians peaceful?" and your answer was NO. It seems that you're contradicting yourself as well as common sense.
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Thinker221 month, 2 weeks ago
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> The rockets that are being fired at them are basically heavy model rockets that do little more than make noise.
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I wish you've knew a bit more about what you're talking about, Tchef. Maybe, the following video will open yohur eyes somewhat... but I doubt it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j68nFQ20o0s=related-
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tchef1 month, 2 weeks ago
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The link only lead me to videos about ***** of Reality (i'm sure this is not what you wanted to show me. I think the original video that you wanted to show must have malfunctioned.
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The link I provided was and unbiased report on what rockets where being fired. I know that since the article was written they have made rockets that can reach about 3 miles into Israel but still do little damage. I googled to try to find a list of how many casualties have been caused by rockets fired into Israel and can find virtually no list. Only 2 deaths can be noted. As opposed to how many deaths caused by Israel's attacks on Gaza? There has to be a better way. And Yes I also fault Hamas for not doing enough to stop the attacks. The only listing I can find about better rockets that may actually pose a real threat is a article in wired that mentions a Chinese rocket that can fly 22 miles. But with the way Gaza is blockaded I can't see how this rocket could be smuggled into the area. It is pretty big and requires a rather large launcher. The one pictured was mounted on the back of a truck. Which couldn't easily be hidden.-
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Thinker221 month, 2 weeks ago
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You're right, the link I've provided did not work.
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> I know that since the article was written they have made rockets that can reach about 3 miles into Israel but still do little damage. I googled to try to find a list of how many casualties have been caused by rockets fired into Israel and can find virtually no list. Only 2 deaths can be noted.
Here is another article containing Qassam statistics as of January, 2008. It says that 433 Israeli citizens were injured by these devices and 22 were killed including 9 residents of Sderot three of whom were children. This report also says that as of January, 2008 over 8,000 rockets have been launched at Sderot and the Western Negev. It further says that the Qassam rocket can reach up to 20km (13 miles) and NOT 3 miles as your "unbiased" report said. My data seems more reliable as there were reports about Palestinian rockets exploding in Ashkelon which is located 12 kilometers from the closest point at the Gaza border.
http://zionism-israel.com/vic/Sderot_Qassam_Statis...
> As opposed to how many deaths caused by Israel's attacks on Gaza? There has to be a better way.
I've already explained to you that the number of deaths in Gaza would be much lower if the Palestinian militants did not use their own civilians as shields. Besides, a war is NOT a game where sides try to match the damage to each other. Wars are being fought with a goal to WIN. Are you sure that the Americans stopped fighting in Afghanistan when the number of Afghanis killed reached 3,000? Yes, there is a better way, peace negotiations. Unfortunately, it requires participation of BOTH sides.
> And Yes I also fault Hamas for not doing enough to stop the attacks.
Did you also manage to "fault" Al Qaeda for "not doing enough" to stop 9/11, Tchef? What about "faulting" Hitler for "not doing enough" to stop WWII?
> But with the way Gaza is blockaded I can't see how this rocket could be smuggled into the area.
I have seen reports about Palestinians smuggling an elephant from Egypt for a local zoo so smuggling even large (but not as fat as an elephant) rockets should not be a problem for Hamas.-
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tchef1 month, 2 weeks ago
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My link was an unbiased link, yours is to a pro Israel source. I look for link to information that doesn't have an agenda either way.
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Al Qaeda perpetrated the act of 9/11 and have done nothing to try to stop any action of this type so that comparison is bunk. Same for Hitler.
What are the militants in Gaza supposed to use as shields? As you say this is war and they are going to do what they can to win. As they don't have tanks or near the modern weaponry that Israel has (mostly thanks to us) they will use what they have to their best advantage. (Again I'm not defending them just stating the obvious)
As far as the elephant goes I don't thing Israel feels too threatened by that so it probably wasn't too much trouble to get it in. But let's bring in some Chinese rockets that would be harder. And why isn't Israel blasting China for selling these rockets? The rockets that are being fired are being made in Gaza with materials that are readily available. They are not sophisticated.
As I have said before I'm sick of supporting both sides in this war with no end. If they want our support they need to find a way to peace.-
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Thinker221 month, 2 weeks ago
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> My link was an unbiased link, yours is to a pro Israel source. I look for link to information that doesn't have an agenda either way.
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Nevertheless, your link contained false information about the number of Israelis killed and maimed as well as about the range of Palestinians rockets. You see, a 3-mile-range rocket can not explode in a city 10 miles away no matter how you twist it.
> Al Qaeda perpetrated the act of 9/11 and have done nothing to try to stop any action of this type so that comparison is bunk. Same for Hitler.
Same for Hamas, Tchef...
> What are the militants in Gaza supposed to use as shields?
They're supposed to PROTECT their civilians, Tchef. What are Israelis supposed to use to protect THEIR civilians, in your opinion? and NO, using civilians as shields is NOT that obvious. It IS obvious, however, that these civilians will be killed if used as shields and the responsibility for their death lies fully on those using them as shields while shooting from behind them.
> As far as the elephant goes I don't thing Israel feels too threatened by that so it probably wasn't too much trouble to get it in.
As I've explained (and you, apparently, ignored) the elephant was smuggled FROM EGYPT, not from Israel, through one of the tunnels Hamas have built under the border between Gaza and Egypt. If an elephant could fit there so could a rocket.
> The rockets that are being fired are being made in Gaza with materials that are readily available. They are not sophisticated.
These rockets are sophisticated enough to fly up to 20 kilometers and kill Israeli men, women and children. If anyone was doing it to any other state the perpetrators would be pulverized... but Israelis somehow are expected to accept such actions and even ASSIST their murderers who complain about their "starving children" while they bring in "readily available" parts and materials to build rockets they'll use to kill and maim Israeli civilians.
> If they want our support they need to find a way to peace.
There are only two possibilities for the US (and any other country) in this situation: support ONE side or support the OTHER. Ignoring both is not an option. -
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tchef1 month, 2 weeks ago
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1. Militants are militants and not the army, they are there for one purpose and that is to push their agenda not protect civilians. That would be the job of the governing body. Unfortunately Hamas is not interested in protecting the civilians and are more than likely supporting the militants more than doing anything to stop them. The citizens of Gaza made a mistake by electing Hamas. Now I fear they will have a hard time getting rid of them.
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2. I'll give you the tunnels. But if Israel looks at their satellite photos and sees and elephant I don't think they will start shaking. But however if they look and see a truck with a large rocket launching device on the back they will have a problem. If the militants had the rockets you talk about there would be much more damage in Israel. I haven't seen any reports of that kind of damage. And I'm sure it would be all over the news.
3. Up until the end of the 70's we supported one side. How much peace did that get us? I remember a whole lot more horrible terrorist attacks happening during that time. Not to mention our support of Israel is the main reason we are a target for terrorist attacks.-
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Thinker221 month, 2 weeks ago
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(1): It makes little difference for the Israelis how you call Hamas as well as their partners and supporters. As long as these guys continue attacking Israel Israelis will have no other choice but to defend themselves, their families, their homes and their country.
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(2) I'll show you a couple of link to reports about Palestinian missiles exploding in Ashkelon. Further, there are about 1.6 million people in Gaza and these people drive hundreds of thousands of various vehicles. If you believe that Israelis have means to monitor every person, every vehicle and every movement 24-7 you're badly mistaken.
(3) At the end of the 70's one Arab state decided to make peace and Voila! the US started supporting it. Egypt and other Arab states did not suffer from lack of support at the time, however, as the Soviet Union and its gave them all the support possible... way more than Israel received from the US.
> Not to mention our support of Israel is the main reason we are a target for terrorist attacks. The US support of Britain and the Soviet Union during WWII was, probably, among the main reasons the US was a target for German and Japanese attacks. Does it mean that supporting Britain was wrong? Besides, if the US or any other country will respond to terrorist attacks by dancing to the terrorists' tune it will prove to the terrorists that terrorism works and the only conclusion they'll (and anyone else) will make from it that more terrorism will work even better. Again, one can fight the terrorists or one can support them. IGNORING terrorism is not an option, however. -
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Thinker221 month, 2 weeks ago
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Here are a couple of links I've promised...
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haaretz.com/hasen/spages/959172.html
haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1068093.html
ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3271207,00.html
ynet.co.il/english/articles/0,7340,L-3514030,00.ht...
jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1210668635737=JPAr...
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Thinker221 month, 2 weeks ago
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> Those lands are disputed.
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This is correct. This also was the reason I've asked why, in your opinion, people of one race or religion had the right to build there and people of another race or religion could not.
> We are not talking about race, we are talking about citizens of one nation expanding beyond that Nation's recognized borders.
This is not true... unless, of course, you're talking about [former] citizens of Jordan expanding beyond the borders of Jordan. Below is a link to the official text of the Israel-Jordan Peace Treaty, Annex A, Israel-Jordan International Boundary Delimitation and Demarcation, which makes it VERY clear that the entire territory of the West Bsnk is within internationally recognized official boundaries of Israel:
http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Peace%20Process/Guide%20...
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