Conservatives v. Liberals »
Posted By avoth 1 month, 2 weeks ago in HumorIf a conservative doesn’t like guns, he doesn’t buy one.
If a liberal doesn’t like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.
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If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn’t eat meat.
If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.
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If a conservative sees a foreign threat, he thinks about how to defeat his enemy.
A liberal wonders how to surrender gracefully and still look good.
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If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
If a liberal is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.
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If a Black man or Hispanic are conservative, they see themselves as independently successful.
Their liberal counterparts see themselves as victims in need of government protection.
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If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation.
A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him.
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If a conservative doesn’t like a talk show host, he switches channels.
Liberals demand that those they don’t like be shut down.
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If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn’t go to church.
A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God and religion silenced.
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If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it.
A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.
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If a conservative slips and falls in a store, he gets up, laughs and is embarrassed.
If a liberal slips and falls, he grabs his neck, moans like he’s in labor and then sues.
If a conservative reads this, they'll prop it and share it with their friends so they can all have a good laugh.
A liberal will neg it because they're "offended".
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Tasine1 month, 2 weeks ago
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jovial1 month, 2 weeks ago
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The conservative focus is on what it sees as the governing class. This group is seen as the source of the economic strength that sustains society. That status gives it more societal equity than those with less property and its intellect gives it the responsibility to use government to protect that equity.
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Liberals see government as the tool that protects those who need protection and creates a higher quality of life for all its citizens, not just those who have political or economic power. In many ways conversatives see the world through the eyes of fear while liberals see it with hope.
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jovial1 month, 2 weeks ago
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So you might ask what have liberals done for America?
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Why is liberalism good for America? Here is a short list of programs originally opposed by conservatives and which exist today because liberals made them happen.
Child labor laws
Clean Water Act
Collective bargaining rights
Federal fair housing law
Federal deposit insurance
Federally sponsored guaranteed student loan programs
Food stamps
Head Start
Investor protections of the Securities Acts of 1933 and 1934
Medicare
Public electrical power and the rural electrification system
Social Security
The Civil Rights Act
The 40-hour work week
The minimum wage
Unemployment compensation
Voting Rights Act
Women's rights
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CRYMTYPHON1 month, 2 weeks ago
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I am here.
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I have decended.
You do understand that there is so much 'die obama die liberals die' spam poison pumped into propeller,
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Lighthearted insults!
If you are getting praise for it,
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do you realize how low we are now setting the bar?
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icono11 month, 2 weeks ago
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Comrades, what speak you of individual responsibility and civility.
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Beware, for the Marx-0-Crats will definitely try to purge you from their beloved system of self inflicted disability.
For it is always he said, she said, and I never said.
From their first breath of life until they are dead.
For they are never responsible for what they say and do;
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ConquerorWyrm1 month, 2 weeks ago
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"As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality."
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- George Washington-
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jimdoze1 month, 2 weeks ago
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Today's "liberalism" looks nothing like George Washington's, Wyrm. He would be embarrassed to see how the term has been bastardized. The founding fathers sought to limit government, not expand it. The founding fathers saw the purpose of the federal government as providing for the common defense and promoting the general welfare. Not the other way around
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frctm51 month, 2 weeks ago
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chevydog1 month, 2 weeks ago
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Mik -- Kind of think I owe certain things to the community: (1) to be a good citizen; (2) to obey the law; (3) and to use my abilitiies to make it a better place to live. The community obviously owes all of the above to me as well; plus it has the responsibility to promote conditions that allow me to fill my obligations. For instance, I can't do much in the absence of personal security.
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Don't really know what 'liberal" and "conservative" mean. I think the maybe the main difference between the two casts of mind is that "liberals" appear to believe that man's actions can essentially be dictated to him by impersonal powers beyond his control. So it's necessary that an even stronger power (government, law) be able to restrain these impersonal ones. Don't think that "conservatives" by and large really believe that there are any practical powers beyond a person's choice; and tend to be suspicious of schemes to govern non-existent powers.
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ConquerorWyrm1 month, 2 weeks ago
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I am a "liberal"...in the same vein as George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson and Ben Franklin.
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I own several firearms (all historic bolt-action rifles from WWI & WWII). I do not advocate any restrictions on firearms, including 'select fire', with the exception of VIOLENT FELONS and the criminally insane. I abhor individuals (such as George HW Bush, Reagan and Clinton) who advocate and enact restrictive gun-control measures upon the Citizens of the United States. I specifically abhor indivduals who, like GWBush in 2005 New Orleans, actively confiscate firearms and violate the Constitution.
I am a "liberal"...thus it is my nature to NOT tell others how or what to eat (quote from Jefferson will follow in about 3 hours...not on my computer) as opposed to the Corporatists (right wing) method of creating a food or drug and then either outlawing competition working for preferential legislation for their food/drug at the expense of others.
I am a "liberal" who understands the precepts in Sun Tzu's "Art of War" (Gen. S.B. Griffith translation preferred) and who understands that it is best (if victory is to be achieved) to find out what motivates your enemy and then see if there is any way you could turn your enemy into your ally first or turn potential threats into advantages...as opposed to acting in a childishly bellicose manner while causing untold collateral damage, destroying your international reputation due to arrogance and generally making an ass of yourself. It really would do this country good if you "conservatives" learned strategy and the classics (such as Sun Tzu and Clausewitz). Perhaps then you would understand when the appropriate use of force exists. Oh, by the way, it has only been under "conservative" Presidents that this nation has ever "lost" a conflict.-
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ConquerorWyrm1 month, 2 weeks ago
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When that started, I had recently finished a project at the time...writing, in my own words and in classical styles (triolet, pantum, sonnet, chant royale, tanka, etc) of poetry, the first chapter of that book. (I've since shifted gears, after doing the first in multiple styles and am now doing it as a series of interconnected sonnets...211 in all). Watching what the Bush administration was doing was just painful. Every move they made was as completely and directly opposite of what they should have done. This was one of the biggest strategic blunders I could locate throughout history...a complete waste of international capital as well as domestic wealth in an entrenched, aimless conflict.
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tiredofwhiners1 month, 2 weeks ago
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Wyrm: First of all you're an iffy liberal subject to being converted to a conservative. Secondly, most major wars have been entered into by Democrat Presidents. i.e. WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam. And we weren't even attacked on our homeland except by Japan, so only the war in the Pacific was justified on liberal terms. I leave out the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan because I don't agree with the way they were/are fought and the casualties don't come close to the 4 that I mentioned. As far as turning your enemy into your ally, lots of luck on that but it's worth a try. Let's see if Obama does that.
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tadair9191 month, 2 weeks ago
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i happen to disagree on the surrender looking good vs look for ways to defeat enemy, paradigm.
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i think war is the failure of diplomacy. the proper recourse is not to look for a way to defeat our supposed enemy, rather, we should at least consider finding ways to absolve our disagreements, first. war should never be the initial objective. right or left. -
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ConquerorWyrm1 month, 2 weeks ago
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I am a "liberal" in that I shun government regulation and restrictions.
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As for homosexuals, who cares. As a liberal, I really couldn't give a damn...unlike the "conservative" line of attempting forced restrictions against life-style choices such as not allowing visits of 'partners' in end-of-life hospital stays...or the myriad methods in which "conservatives" attempt to, using their faith as their base, the actions of homosexuals. Why is it that "conservatives" are so hot on using Big Government in such a restrictive way?
As for issues of ethnicity? As a Liberal, I believe that there should be no preferential treatment, either positive or negative, based upon ethnicity...same as with sexual orientation...sorry if that destroys your false stereotype.
As a Liberal (with a Christian base), I believe that it is our duty to help our Brothers. As a Liberal who has NEVER accepted any Government assistance (ever with the exception of loans which I have a duty to repay), I still believe there should be safety nets to assist those who are left devastated in their circumstances...especially if such devastation comes from the criminal acts of corporate institutions. Preferably, I would have those individuals and institutions which created the disaster (such as the current economic disaster) take care of what they wrought...but we know where the 'bailout' money went when GWBush just handed over $350billion with no strings attached to pay bonuses for those who stole the life savings of others. I suppose the "conservative" view would be "steal and then laugh at those you stole from". -
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skeptic2711 month, 2 weeks ago
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jimdoze1 month, 2 weeks ago
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If a conservative sees murder, they seek to stop it.
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If a liberal wants to murder as a measure of convenience, they seek to redefine it.
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ConquerorWyrm1 month, 2 weeks ago
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As a Liberal, I couldn't care less whether a talk-show host I disagree with is on the air or not as I determine my listening choices. Unlike the "conservative" view, I do not censor or try to destroy media I do not like. I take for example the history of "liberal radio" in the Phoenix, AZ region. During the Bush years, the attempt to establish a 'liberal' radio voice was constantly derailed through actions such as, in one case, a "conservative" group purchased the station and shut it down, replacing it with religious indoctrination. Such actions, direct aggression, are not typical of "liberals"...case in point, the absolute dominance the "conservative" main stream media holds over the radio format.
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As a Liberal, I have no problems with any church putting forth any RELIGIOUS iconography or imagery as long as it is ON THEIR PROPERTY. I find it repulsive that any religious group could force others to sponsor their religious views by using PUBLIC property. Do note that it is the "conservatives" who try to get away with using such public property for their private displays of faith...and theirs only.
As a Liberal and an optimist, I fully believe that We the People have the right to gather our strengths, our resources together and free ourselves from the tyrannical rule of non-U.S. registered insurance companies, protected by legislation (a sign of fascism) and thus create our own health care options without being dictated to by low-paid clerks in cubicles looking out for the bottom line of tax and regulation sheltered companies. My Christian background as well teaches me that we should be our brother's keeper when our brother can not stand alone. Being a realist, I also know that the greatness of our Country is only as great as the least of us.-
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jimdoze1 month, 2 weeks ago
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Can it be assumed then that you also want to keep your health care out of the hands of listless government bureaucrats on one hand and lobbyiest besotten power-mad legislators on the other?
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As far as being a Christian and your brother's keeper, does that mean you want the coercive power of government to remove your individual moral choice and force everyone to keep everyone else?
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ConquerorWyrm1 month, 2 weeks ago
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As a Liberal, I accept responsibility for my actions. If I am injured as in the description given above, then, if the incident was my fault, such is. If the incident is attributable to lack of safety standards on the part of the business I am in, then, just like any of YOU, I would seek recompense...and don't dare lie to me otherwise!
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This little list is nothing more than a series of lies...cheap stereotypes which have no grounding in reality. Those who agree with and believe the tripe posted as the intro to this thread are nothing more than liars, self-deluded at that. -
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canadianrancher571 month, 2 weeks ago
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Not bad, but the part that concerns me is that even if not in humor section I agreed with the majority of these on a more serious level. I sometimes wonder that by being in business for myself and not being covered by alot of government programs it has allowed me to still have a bit of a conservative side.
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CRYMTYPHON1 month, 2 weeks ago
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If a liberal wants to get something done, they compromise.
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If a conservative wants to get something done, they protest.
If a liberal wants to decrease crime he spends thousands on youth centers and counseling.
If a conservative wants to decrease crime he spends millions
on prisons.
If a liberal wants to help education he gives teachers a raise.
If a conservative wants to help education he encourages home-schooling.
If a liberal wants to defend his country he joins the army or works for peace.
If a conservative wants to defend his country he supports the war.
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This is an Avoth trap; we will not fall for it.
American conservatives are damned good people .
America needs them; they are not fools;
and they have half the words we need to hear.
American liberals are wonderful; and when they
are insulted by people who inflate their ego on dividing
their nation, - half America is insulted.
Conservative; liberal. We are america.
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NoWayMan1 month, 2 weeks ago
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"Those who put the most into society should get the most out of it."
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seeing where and who this is coming from, was there ever a declaration with more subjective reasoning?
who defines the value of what one has put in? is it simply and stupidly based on money?
if a man serves in the military for ten years then works selflessly as a janitor his entire life to put his kids thru college, should he be rewarded with a country estate when he retires?
are you starting to see the short-sightedness of your ridculous statement yet?
and what the f*ck makes you stupidly think that's an anglo notion?
what a fool.
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