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Posted By TimALoftis 4 days, 22 hours ago in Political Opinion
It must be stated over and over again: the Fox News Channel is not a news channel. It's a Republican party propaganda channel. As such, its first amendment right to say whatever it likes ought to be protected, but not its "right" to call itself "news". That's false advertising, and it ought to be outlawed by whoever regulates such things.
Perhaps if they changed the name to the Republican News Channel (RNC for short), there would be no complaint. Until they do, however, they need to be called out by the rest of us for exactly what they are.
To that end, recent statements by the White House are right on the money: Fox should be treated not like a news organisation but like a television network that exists to promote a specific political agenda.
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Charlson4 days, 21 hours ago
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FTA: Now these confused souls roam the streets, town halls and email lists as clueless zombies, unaware of who and what they are fighting for (government-supported corporatocracy) or against (their own self-interest).
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We can't ignore the attempts of the extreme right to distort reality in favor of their extreme and dangerous agenda. They create a group of mindless lemmings that will do their bidding against even their own self interest let alone the interests of America's recovery from the Hell of Bush's incompetent reign of disaster. -
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TimALoftis4 days, 21 hours ago
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A great deal has been written and said about Fox News as of late and the vast majority of it has been correct.
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When people try to convince me that Fox News is somehow 'Fair and Balanced', I bring up just one name - not any of its on-air personalities but that of Roger Ailes, the President and head of the network. Mr. Ailes is a former Republican operative who ran the Bush senior campaign in 1988.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Ailes
Now why would a news network want to have a former GOP strategist as head of its news division if they truly wanted it to be or at least come across as being Fair and Balanced?
Another argument that you hear quite often is that Fox News opinion programs are no different than newspapers in that they have have 'OpEd' or opinion pages as well. True, but when I pickup a newspaper the 'OpEd' section usually consists of only a couple of pages and not the 16 or 17 hours of daily programming (well over 60%) you see on Fox News.
That said, MSNBC has the same problem just in reverse... Its entire primetime lineup is 'Opinion' that tilts totally to the left.
To the credit of CNN, this news network more or less fired Lou Dobbs who anchored the only hour of 'Opinion' on the network last week. The President of CNN seems to be devoted in his attempts to make CNN as bias free if not totally opinion free as humanly possible. To that end, I at least give this network an 'A' for effort.-
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epiphannyy4 days, 19 hours ago
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Personally, I believe CNN fired Lou Dobbs less because he was "opinion based" and more because he crossed the line from "opinion" to "fabrication" in his commentary. His show was always an opinion show. He was a newsman who gave his own commentary on specifically chosen issues. That is why he reported on the same story day after day after day without change. He reported on our porous borders for months on end. He reported on "red China" for months on end. He reported on the lack of security at our ports for months on end. He wasn't fired until he began injecting conspiracy theories into his reporting. He said in his "goodbye" that "in the last six months" the winds were changing, etc. What happened six months ago? That's when he started referencing the whole birther conspiracy like it had some factual merit. He started perpetuating propoganda, not fact. I honestly think that is what got him fired. They didn't have any problem with him as long as his opinions were based in fact. Controversy was fine, as long as it could be defended as based in fact. He adopted the conspiracies as fact-based and that's the kiss of death for any serious journalist. If he wants to report conspiracy as fact, he needs to be on a tabloid news show, not a REAL news show.
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FairNBalanced4 days, 15 hours ago
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CNN got rid of Dobbs because his opinions are slanted to the right, NOT because of his opinions.
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Do you really think that after 16 years, A man who has been with CNN since its founding, (other than 2 years) would let him go, after all these years just because he had an opinion based show? What kind of show has he had all the while, and just now they decide to ax him? Not buying it.
Dobbs demise came immediately after he repeatedly questioned the shooting at Fort Hood as being a terrorist action, and not just a quick sudden snap, as the far left keeps trying to convince everyone. Their "opinion" if you will.
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Klarissa4 days, 20 hours ago
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brad_Friedman
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"Brad Friedman is a US self-described [1] "election integrity muckraking journalist jerk," blogger, actor, radio broadcaster, director and software programmer.
His work as a freelance journalist has been published by Mother Jones, Editor & Publisher, Computerworld, Columbus Free Press, Salon.com, TruthOut.org, Harvard's Nieman Foundation of Journalism and Hustler, among others, and he and his work at The BRAD BLOG, are frequently cited as sources in other mainstream publications.[15]
He is featured in numerous documentary films, interviewed as an investigative journalist, and expert in issues of election integrity and voting systems. Among the films in which he appears: Phil Donahue & Ellen Spiro's Body of War, David Earnhardt's Uncounted: The New Math of American Elections, Dorothy Fadiman's Stealing America: Vote by Vote [16] and Patty Sharaf's Murder, Spies & Voting Lies: The Clint Curtis Story [17].
In July 2006, Hustler magazine featured an article in which Friedman discussed the alleged suicide of Raymond Lemme, an investigator tracking down claims of vote-rigging by Congressman Tom Feeney, as alleged by Florida software programmer Clint Curtis in a story Friedman broke in late 2004 and has covered in great detail ever since.
Friedman reported on suspicions that the 2008 New Hampshire Democratic primary was rigged.[18] He has also extensively covered the case of Ann Coulter's voter fraud issues in Florida.[19] In 2008 Friedman reported critically on the FBI investigation into the suspected involvement of Bruce Ivins in the 2001 anthrax attacks.[20]
An exclusive interview Friedman conducted with Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner, just prior to the 2008 general election, was published in two parts; one part in Computerworld [21], noted Brunner's memorable thought upon reviewing the "awful" findings of the state's report on the security of electronic voting systems in Ohio ("I thought I was going to throw up"), and the other in Alternet [22] quoting the Secretary as stating "we will be ready" for the 2008 election.
He is a frequent guest host on radio for syndicated progressive talkers such as Randi Rhodes, Mike Malloy, Peter B. Collins, The Young Turks and others.[23]
As an actor, Friedman was the winner of multiple Joe Bob Briggs' Drive-In Academy Awards" -
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Klarissa4 days, 20 hours ago
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dunkirk4 days, 19 hours ago
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ROFLMAO, tht seems to be the latest catch phrase of the right when their fallacies are pointed out. And you ARE correct opinion isnt fact so THAT means you should have some FACT that shows that opinion to be wrong. You;ve had quite a few posts so far with nothing to disprve anything being said. Oh wait I forget its YOUR opinion and that definetly isnt fact now is it.
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epiphannyy4 days, 20 hours ago
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What are you talking about? It's already been said in the comments by TimALoftis, and I quote:
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That said, MSNBC has the same problem just in reverse... Its entire primetime lineup is 'Opinion' that tilts totally to the left.
He states quite plainly the opposite of what you assert above about MSNBC. And he's been propped for that comment many times already by the "you all" you're accusing of being in "unanimous agreement" to the opposite. In fact, the only person so far to neg that comment is normallysilent - someone who has NEVER been on the liberal side of the aisle - so what are you saying really?
Opinion news isn't NEWS. I have seen that asserted by many on Propeller, including myself, that applies to MSNBC as well as FOX. The only thing FOX does that goes beyond that line-up on opinion programming is that FOX also distorts the news to fit their agenda. MSNBC doesn't do that. FOX creates news to fit an agenda, while MSNBC selects which news to report in order to support their agenda. There really is a HUGE difference between those two dichotomies, and if you can't see that I'm not really sure what to say to you. -
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djn3nunez34 days, 20 hours ago
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Stewart claimed the real motto of FOX "News" should be: "We alter real life. You are sold a preconceived narrative."
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scott42614 days, 19 hours ago
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Those who like to point to MSNBC as the basitian of all things liberal forget those Morning Joe is still on MSNBC. Joe Scarborough: I mean, yes...he IS on MSNBC...and Scarborough is the dominant conservative voice of his namesake morning show on what is perceived as otherwise a reliably liberal cable news network (Of course, he does have regular help from "crazy uncle" Pat Buchanan ....and jeez, if I hear Joe go on about how great he thinks Reagan was one more time, I think I'll puke! ...but I digress...)
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And that's all true enough for the most part, but I think the liberal label as a perceived equal counterweight to FOX News really a misrepresents the presentation of the network. Because after Joe, you have Dylan Ratigan, who clearly leans liberal - or do I detect a libertarian streak? - doing his Morning Meeting. He comes from the financial halls of CNBC and yes he is hard on Wall Street ....and he is critical of President Obama on a daily basis over his handling of the crisis and "too big to fail banks." He lectures how the President should kick out Larry Summers and Timothy Geithner ....on a daily basis. He doesn't give Barney Frank any slack either. I will say Ratigan is fair for the most part ...and and I believe he is the smartest host among ANY of the cable networks, bar none.
The network does get decidedly more liberal following Andrea Mitchell in the afternoon. But I think to compare Glenn Beck as an intellectual equal of Chris Matthews or Ed Schulz is downright laughable. If FOX WANTS to be taken seriously, then give us someone with intellectual firepower. Where's today's William F. Buckley? Sadly, you won't find him residing ANYWHERE at FOX....
(Oh, I'm sure Britt Hume or Chris Wallace may think they are in the same league...
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scott42614 days, 19 hours ago
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The meat FTA:
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"For the intellectually honest who bother to pay attention to MSNBC's primetime coverage (distinct from its all-rightwing morning coverage hosted for several hours by former Republican congressman Joe Scarborough) the news outlet's progressive viewpoint is obvious. So is their well-documented penchant for reporting on the scoundrels in, and failings of, the Democratic party. Such failings are not hidden from viewers.
"By contrast, Fox presents an alternative reality where Republican hypocrisy, scandals and abuses of power are either spun into something they are not or, more frequently, simply not mentioned at all. As such, the depths of the historically unprecedented failure that was George Bush's presidency remain virtually unknown to Fox viewers. In the bargain, as the young Obama administration moves forward, attempting to deal with countless disasters they've inherited, issue after issue now comes as a complete surprise to the majority of Fox's audience."-
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ameliog4 days, 18 hours ago
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""By contrast, Fox presents an alternative reality where Republican hypocrisy, scandals and abuses of power are either spun into something they are not or, more frequently, simply not mentioned at all."
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Or when mentioned with a picture of the offender, have a "(D)" next to their name instead of an "(R)". Many ways for Fox to spread disinformation and lies, not just through selective verbal commenting.
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Klarissa4 days, 18 hours ago
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I am fortunate that my TV watching is Discovery, channel 9, history, and national geographic.
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By the time I read the stuff on here I have had enough.
In spite of the biases and play-book comments on propeller, a lot of truth seeps through.
So do the worries of all political spectrum about their standing with the public.-
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mesodude4 days, 17 hours ago
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But from what you've indicated here, you only read or watch programs which you believe reflect your point of view. How can you consider yourself learned if you *only* listen to that which you already believe to be true? How often do you watch MSNBC *without* the filter of a FOX shout wing radio host or entertainer?
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Tcaros4 days, 14 hours ago
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Fox News is owned by Rupert Murdoch. He is Australian born and a foreign owner of American media.
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Murdoch benefited by Bush's deregulation of the news industry which allowed foreign ownership. He's thankful for that. (thankful meaning he's not going to bite the hand that feeds him) Corporate fascism is popular with right wing elitists today.
Also, Rupert is Jewish. This means that he favors politics that support Israel. That happens to be right wing.
So, here's where we have the problem. Fox will never be "fair and balanced" or have journalistic integrity.
It's like the STAR or GLOBE that you see at grocery store checkout isles. That's Fox style!
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lum-chate4 days, 6 hours ago
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Fox should hire Dobbs He has to go to Fox as he deserves more exposure!
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When the news broke of the massacre at Ft. Hood, the 24-hour news networks went in to high gear.
Between 3pmET and 7pmET, Fox News averaged 2.60M Total Viewers and 627K in A25-54 viewers coming in first of the three cable news networks, and adding viewers with each subsequent hour. CNN averaged 1.33M Total Viewers and 371K in the demo, seeing some drop-off at 6pmET. MSNBC averaged 624K Total Viewers and 196K in the demo, like FOX adding viewers with each hour.
Only 51% of all households have cable. Among the 51% who have cable though I'm not certain the ratings of top cable shows on Fox rank in the top 10 with DWS & Desperate Housewives & 2 1/2 men and the like.
You radicals just can't face the truth! Fox is a big time player, bigger on TV than Limbaugh is on radio. Live with it!
This silly outrage by the silliest of lefties haven't hurt ratings they enlarged the audience.
The frustration vented by the left annoys the Fox people like a wasp might annoy a buffalo.
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jimdoze4 days, 13 hours ago
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Fox reports the news and, at times, offers opinions that emanate from a particular zeitgeist (or intellectual paradigm) that happens to be more classically liberal and less statist than that of most news and opinion organizations. Every... and I do mean every... news organizations' viewpoint affects how the news is reported. The choice of what is reported or not, the phraseology of how it is reported, the interpretations of the consequences of what are chosen to be newsworthy items... all emanate from the viewpoint of the reporting entity. Years ago, there were very few national news organizations and very little idealogically to distinguish amongst them. As the so-called mainstream media has undeniably migrated to the left over the last several decades, it opened up a paradigmatic void that encompassed the majority of the voting public. It was that void into which Fox stepped... with smashing success.
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Their success brings with it the very same sort of conundrum that has leftists scratching their heads, tearing their hair out and yelling "liar! liar!" because they can't convince every person below the median income line to vote redistributionist statists into office. They simply can't believe that those people won't buy into their intellectual paradigm. Therefore, to them, any facts and opinions that don't fit their paradigm must be lies... and, consequently, "the people are being lied to."
Fox News no more lies than any other news organization. They simply happen to see, report and interpret things differently than most of the others. Plus, they do it in a more in-your-face style than the subtle, wink-wink-we're-smarter-than-rest-of-you-rubes style of most of the other "news" organizations. While they are not perfect (none can be), their particular zeitgeist happens to be the most beneficial for the long term health of the republic, IMO. -
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jovial4 days, 13 hours ago
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The most slippery mea culpa came from Fox News's Sean Hannity. On the day of the rally (a/k/a "the Super Bowl of Freedom"), he used fake footage to bolster Bachmann's absurd claim that the protest drew a crowd of 20,000 to 45,000--when reliable estimates stretch from 4,000 to 10,000, tops. Hannity's producers spliced scenes from the much larger 9/12 rally sponsored by Glenn Beck in between shots of Bachmann's much smaller turnout on 11/5, suggesting that her group had spilled out onto the Mall.
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http://www.thenation.com/blogs/notion/496952/hanni...
What's really alarming is that Hannity said it was a simple mistake and Fox viewers believed it! They believe the crowds from two events that happened at two different times were mixed up by a technical error and wasn't willfully done. How could a real news agency make a mistake like that? Were the two tapes laying right next to each other? Even if they were, how could they get edited together?
Then Michelle Bachman with her teabagger "Dachau" scandal. Who waited 5 days to condemn the banner and then did it only half-heartedly. -
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Ukrainian4 days, 12 hours ago
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Another day and another handfull of stories berating FOX, including those dug up from foreign sources. This with Obama in Asia, Ft, Hood, Healthcare, Afghanistan and McCrystal, KSM trial, 102% unemployment. But the merry band of liberal propeller heads love to put up and comment on FOX and Sarah. Then discuss their political opponents in a morally and intellectually superior tone that is shattered by the use of the most vile, insulting, namecalling, personal attacks that they will always say the right uses and not them.
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Georgia504 days, 12 hours ago
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Assertion: Fox News is not news.
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Photo accompanying assertion: entertainer Sean Hannity.
Wanna talk about FNC? Fine. First step: learn the difference between news programs and opinion shows. I know...liberal...public education, etc. Still, is it asking too much for you liberals to reach way down within yourselves and pull out a brain cell or two? -
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Tcaros4 days, 11 hours ago
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Fox News ran the story that "Obama was a Muslim" which was right after they smeared him by saying his Christian pastor "was a racist."
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It's hard for Fox news watchers to see that type of blatant contradiction- their jaws opened wide while they are eating their peanut butter sandwiches. -
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MeanMrMustard4 days, 9 hours ago
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Another lie by Fox...Nixon bowing...
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